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What is the order of the tiebreakers? I know that we're behind because of games played, but where does it go from there? I hope head-to-head and not regulation wins. That stupid ass rule might be the Howson gift that screws us the most.
 

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What is the order of the tiebreakers? I know that we're behind because of games played, but where does it go from there? I hope head-to-head and not regulation wins. That stupid ass rule might be the Howson gift that screws us the most.

1. Games played
2. ROW
3. Head to head
4. Goal differential
 

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What is the order of the tiebreakers? I know that we're behind because of games played, but where does it go from there? I hope head-to-head and not regulation wins. That stupid ass rule might be the Howson gift that screws us the most.

1. Games played
2. ROW
3. Head to head
4. Goal differential

A couple of notes.

Games played won't count for anything at the end of the year; everyone will have 48.

Head-to-head is unusual this year. If there's an odd number of games in the season series, the first game in the city that hosted the additional game does not count. It's possible to win the season series, but lose it on the dropped game.

Goal differential includes the 1 goal in the shootouts.
 

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The CBJ are now 4 games over .500... the max I ever thought possible after 48 games... well, they still have five more games to play and 8th seed Detroit is only 5 games over .500...

The chances are now real.... btw, the CBJ are the second hottest team in the West right now after winning four games in a row.....

We are close dudes... very close.
 

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Last note for tonight, if we do make the playoffs we get Patty Kane and friends..... lol

Oh God No! C'mon St. Louis, lose! lose damn you!

Your post literally made me feel like I was a cat trying to get out of a bathtub. Funny the effect that the Blackhawks have.
 

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If I remember the schedules correctly, after Wednesday-Thursday's back-to-back both Dallas and Detroit will have five games left, and we'll only have three games left. That means we'll have to win big this pair of games (in the 4th and 5th games in 7 nights, as a team that already looks tired), or we'll be begging for massive help from Detroit and Dallas the rest of the season.
 

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Really am pulling for you guys, I wouldn't even be mad if you guys beat us coming up at home. Just so I can see the wings out of the playoffs for once.
 

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So basically rooting for EDM, VAN, and LA tonight...

hopefully changing GMs means that EDM gets a jolt tonight...
 

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1. Games played
2. ROW
3. Head to head
4. Goal differential

Thanks for the info. I think this order is ******. Head-to-head should be the top tiebreaker. Chew on this. We could tie with Detroit and get knocked out of the playoffs because we have fewer regulation wins even though we took 9 out of 10 points from the Wings. Damn you Scott Howson for pushing such a stupid rule. To me, a win is a win regardless when it happens. You don't see other leagues, namely basketball, football and baseball penalizing teams for winning in overtime or extra innings. If we get screwed, I hope that JD and JK look to push to change this, it would be an absolute travesty to be left at home when you dominated the team that would make it in instead.

I know this viewpoint is irrational, but I just think it's bush that the NHL penalizes teams like this.
 

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First tie breaker use to be total wins. All Howson proposed was that only regulation wins should count in that tie breaker. Head to Head was never, nor should it be, the first tie breaker.
 

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First tie breaker use to be total wins. All Howson proposed was that only regulation wins should count in that tie breaker. Head to Head was never, nor should it be, the first tie breaker.

I just think that is wrong. I don't know if there is anything anyone could tell me to convince me otherwise. How head-to-head can basically be made irrelevant is assinine.
 

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My vitriol aside, I thought I'd look at everyone's schedules remaining from 5th through 11th. There is always the possibility that someone ahead of us could go through a slide and if we continue our ascent, we could leap frog some people.

#5 San Jose Sharks - 51 points - 6 games remaining (4H, 2A) - Los Angeles, Minnesota, Columbus, Dallas, @Phoenix, @Los Angeles - Another team that is not playing their best, but they get some home cooking where they are very good. Also probably not catchable

#6 Minnesota Wild - 49 points - 6 games remaining (3H, 3A) - @Edmonton, @San Jose, Calgary, Los Angeles, Edmonton, @Colorado - Probably not catchable with this schedule. They are playing well and there's 5 legitimately potential wins.

#7 St. Louis Blues - 48 points - 7 games remaining (6H, 1A) - Vancouver, Phoenix, Dallas, @Colorado, Colorado, Calgary, Chicago - They have the most friendly schedule in regard to home games, however with the way they've been playing of late, there's three potential losses. The key to beating the Blues is to beat them at their own game. The Jackets and Hawks have done that the past two games.

#8 Detroit Red Wings - 47 points - 6 games remaining (3H, 3A) - @Calgary, @Vancouver, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Nashville, @Dallas - The Wings have a pretty generous schedule, they might be able to win 4 of these games, hoping they tank and miss the playoffs.

#9 Columbus Blue Jackets - 47 points - 5 games remaining (1H, 4A) - @Anaheim, @Los Angeles, @San Jose, @Dallas, Nashville - Might be the toughest road of all, however they refuse to be denied. If they can find a way to win 3 of the remaining 5, it might get them in. I believe, but I'm still not sure.

#10 - Dallas Stars - 45 points - 6 games remaining (3H, 3A) - Vancouver, @St.Louis, @Los Angeles, @San Jose, Columbus, Detroit - The Stars have played well lately to stay in the hunt, but this stretch will be the nail in the coffin for them.

#11 - Phoenix Coyotes - 43 points - 6 games remaining (2H, 4A) - @St. Louis, @Chicago, @Detroit, San Jose, Colorado, @Anaheim - Very tough schedule, don't see them winning more than 2 of these games, likely out.
 

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IMO (amateur albeit), I think it comes down to Detroit, Columbus, and Dallas for the 8th spot.

I think it plays out like this:

DET- 4-2-0 (L @VAN, vs. LAK) (8 points)
CBJ- 3-1-1 (1-1-1 in Cali, 2-0 @ DAL, vs NSH) (7 points)
DAL- 1-4-1 (W vs VAN, L vs the rest and a OTL sprinkled in) (3 points)

I might be very optimistic about going 1-1-1 in California, but anything less than 3 out of 6 points in Cali and I just don't see it happening.
 

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I just think that is wrong. I don't know if there is anything anyone could tell me to convince me otherwise. How head-to-head can basically be made irrelevant is assinine.

First tie breaker should always be head-to-head.
 

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First tie breaker should always be head-to-head.

Hard to do in a shortened season, with unbalanced games. Columbus played Nashville twice in Columbus, and 3 times in Nashville. Had the "Columbus never wins in Nashville" rule still been in effect this season, head to head would have been an unfair situation.
 

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IMO (amateur albeit), I think it comes down to Detroit, Columbus, and Dallas for the 8th spot.

This is what I keep thinking too but even with 5-6 games remaining, I still somehow feel like STL and PHX are still "in" it. I will say that I felt like, last night, Minny got in and Phoenix fell out, but still...

Hard to do in a shortened season, with unbalanced games. Columbus played Nashville twice in Columbus, and 3 times in Nashville. Had the "Columbus never wins in Nashville" rule still been in effect this season, head to head would have been an unfair situation.

FWIW, according to the Mayor on this page, the head-to-head is modified this year to take out the first game played at the city with "home ice" advantage in that scenario. I am not looking it up to see what the implications of that might be, just pointing it out.
 

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Hard to do in a shortened season, with unbalanced games. Columbus played Nashville twice in Columbus, and 3 times in Nashville. Had the "Columbus never wins in Nashville" rule still been in effect this season, head to head would have been an unfair situation.

Such is life, but this isn't a new rule to the shortened season. Tie breakers, inherently, aren't "fair". You just illustrated the problem taken which can be taken to the conference as a whole. "We played x team 5 times, they only played them 4."

I would still prefer head-to-head over this regulation win stuff. We could lose to Detroit in a tie-breaker even though we destroyed them this season.

To be fair, I haven't checked for all the rule changes so who knows I might be off.
 
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