Proposal: Toronto -Winnipeg

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Let me save everyone 2 days:

OP: Trouba to Toronto!

Jets Fans: Only if Rielly is coming back

Toronto fans: Yeah right bruh Rielly > Trouba

Jets Fans: Bruh advanced stats bruh!

Toronto Fans: Bruh points bruh!

Jets Fans: *Warrior Chart*

Toronto Fans: LOL As if those numbers even matter it's the eye test bruh!

Jets Fans: Bruh eye test? How many Jets games you watch bruh!??!

Toronto Fans: Bruh how many Toronto games you watch Bruh!??!?

And at this point, anyone who came to discuss this is long gone and it's like the same 6 people going back and forth.


There. I saved you all a tonne of time.

Gardiner has far superior advanced stats than both Rielly and Trouba. He has some of the best shot supression statistics in the NHL and is great at shot generation as well. Would you take Gardiner over any of those two?

Jets say no to OP.

 

[HarrisonFord]

Let me save everyone 2 days:

OP: Trouba to Toronto!

Jets Fans: Only if Rielly is coming back

Toronto fans: Yeah right bruh Rielly > Trouba

Jets Fans: Bruh advanced stats bruh!

Toronto Fans: Bruh points bruh!

Jets Fans: *Warrior Chart*

Toronto Fans: LOL As if those numbers even matter it's the eye test bruh!

Jets Fans: Bruh eye test? How many Jets games you watch bruh!??!

Toronto Fans: Bruh how many Toronto games you watch Bruh!??!?

And at this point, anyone who came to discuss this is long gone and it's like the same 6 people going back and forth.


There. I saved you all a tonne of time.

You forgot the "Bruh, Mark Stuart bruh!" one though

 

[Maukkis]

Why would we trade you the better, cheaper version of Trouba for Trouba?

Why would we trade you a younger and better defenseman for Gardiner?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Why would we trade you a younger and better defenseman for Gardiner?

Exactly this, If Toronto wants Trouba then pretty much any thing less then Rielly is unacceptable.

 

[HarrisonFord]

Why would we trade you a younger and better defenseman for Gardiner?

Because Gardiner isn't really that much worse than Trouba, and he's making $4.05M for the next 3 seasons. Not saying I'd do it if I was WPG, but that would be the rationale behind it

 

[HarrisonFord]

Exactly this, If Toronto wants Trouba then pretty much any thing less then Rielly is unacceptable.

I don't think we want Trouba to be honest. I'd rather keep what will be the far less expensive Rielly than trade him for the more expensive Trouba

 

[CorgisPer60]

I don't think we want Trouba to be honest. I'd rather keep what will be the far less expensive Rielly than trade him for the more expensive Trouba

Haha. Doesn't even know what Trouba's asks are or what the final terms of the contract is, and still produces this.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I don't think we want Trouba to be honest. I'd rather keep what will be the far less expensive Rielly than trade him for the more expensive Trouba

Yup from a Leafs stand point this would make far more sense,Because no matter where Trouba goes or stays with the Jets he wont be cheap to sign.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Haha. Doesn't even know what Trouba's asks are or what the final terms of the contract is, and still produces this.

Mark my words, Trouba will get any where from 6-8 years around $5.5 million most likely and that's still a little more then Rielly and Trouba isn't much better then Rielly or at all.

 

[HarrisonFord]

Haha. Doesn't even know what Trouba's asks are or what the final terms of the contract is, and still produces this.

We've had rumours and reports. All signs point to even the middle ground between both sides being over $5M. Wasn't Trouba looking for $6+?

Yup from a Leafs stand point this would make far more sense,Because no matter where Trouba goes or stays with the Jets he wont be cheap to sign.

Yup, exactly. I mean whether you think that Trouba or Rielly is the better player, I think both sides can agree that even if Trouba is the better player (it's close either way), the difference is not close to what the difference in salary will likely be

 

[Hunter368]

Let me save everyone 2 days:

OP: Trouba to Toronto!

Jets Fans: Only if Rielly is coming back

Toronto fans: Yeah right bruh Rielly > Trouba

Jets Fans: Bruh advanced stats bruh!

Toronto Fans: Bruh points bruh!

Jets Fans: *Warrior Chart*

Toronto Fans: LOL As if those numbers even matter it's the eye test bruh!

Jets Fans: Bruh eye test? How many Jets games you watch bruh!??!

Toronto Fans: Bruh how many Toronto games you watch Bruh!??!?

And at this point, anyone who came to discuss this is long gone and it's like the same 6 people going back and forth.


There. I saved you all a tonne of time.

Nailed it!

You missed one point, the one Leafs fan who believes Trouba is nothing more then a bottom pairing guy or 7th dman throwing his hater comments in. Lol

 

[JetsHomer]

I don't think we want Trouba to be honest. I'd rather keep what will be the far less expensive Rielly than trade him for the more expensive Trouba

It's weird that Leafs fans have made dozens of proposals for a player you guys don't even want..

 

[Hunter368]

We've had rumours and reports. All signs point to even the middle ground between both sides being over $5M. Wasn't Trouba looking for $6+?



Yup, exactly. I mean whether you think that Trouba or Rielly is the better player, I think both sides can agree that even if Trouba is the better player (it's close either way), the difference is not close to what the difference in salary will likely be

There has been zero confirmed or legit reports on what either side is asking for. Thus all this is speculation

 

[CorgisPer60]

Mark my words, Trouba will get any where from 6-8 years around $5.5 million most likely and that's still a little more then Rielly and Trouba isn't much better then Rielly or at all.

Honestly, everybody was surprised at the dollar amount for his contract, because we figured that he would sign for more. If anything, he signed for much less than he could get. Here's hoping that Trouba listens to reason. For what it's worth, I would have no problems with a 5.5m per year Trouba.

 

[imapylon]

Not bad, I'd probably say neither team goes for it though

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Why would we trade you the better, cheaper version of Trouba for Trouba?

Trouba is waaaaayyy closer to Reilly than he is to Gardiner.

 

[Trapper]

Nailed it!

You missed one point, the one Leafs fan who believes Trouba is nothing more then a bottom pairing guy or 7th dman throwing his hater comments in. Lol

I believe the ones who say he is a bottom pairing or 7th D man are probably reacting to being told the same about something else. Not that this ever happens.
All you have to do is say:
No way player x is worth player y.
30 pages of debate.

Now that being said, I really like Trouba. Top 2 pairing D man potential and would be an awesome fit for my team.
The price today is probably not something we can afford.
And that's ok.
We are in the infancy of our build. Really we are just about to see Matthews,Marner,Nylander and the rest start to form a core. How it goes remains to be seen. Along the way we will draft and develop more players.
Perhaps in a few years we will target a definite area that needs a Trouba or a LW or whatever. By this time we will have a better idea of the types of players the above mentioned and others have become. A more concrete value scale.
Until then, we can stay the course.

 

[HarrisonFord]

It's weird that Leafs fans have made dozens of proposals for a player you guys don't even want..

We have a lot of posters on this site. The voices of a few don't speak for the majority of us. It's not so much that Trouba isn't a good player, it's that his contract status scares us away. I mean if he signs for $5M AAV long term, yeah sure I'd like to add him. But all signs are pointing in a different direction.

There has been zero confirmed or legit reports on what either side is asking for. Thus all this is speculation

This speculation isn't from nowhere. Per sportsnet:

"RFA-to-be Trouba has requested upwards of $56 million over eight years" - that would be a $7M AAV

 

[HarrisonFord]

Trouba is waaaaayyy closer to Reilly than he is to Gardiner.

I obviously agree with you. I think Rielly and Trouba are close. I'm not saying Gardiner is the better, cheaper version of Trouba - I'm saying Rielly is

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

We've had rumours and reports. All signs point to even the middle ground between both sides being over $5M. Wasn't Trouba looking for $6+?



Yup, exactly. I mean whether you think that Trouba or Rielly is the better player, I think both sides can agree that even if Trouba is the better player (it's close either way), the difference is not close to what the difference in salary will likely be

I thought there was a wild rumor floating around that Trouba wanted 8 years $56 million and his agent denied it. Pretty sure that Dreger had mentioned it as well. I know that it's well documented that Trouba isn't happy because the only way he gets top 4 minutes is to play on his off hand side on the left and he wants to play his normal right side but both Buff and Myers are ahead of him on the depth side for the right side. I think that's most of the problem and his unhappiness with the Jets organization is that he's not being used the way he wants to be used.

 

[HarrisonFord]

I thought there was a wild rumor floating around that Trouba wanted 8 years $56 million and his agent denied it. Pretty sure that Dreger had mentioned it as well. I know that it's well documented that Trouba isn't happy because the only way he gets top 4 minutes is to play on his off hand side on the left and he wants to play his normal right side but both Buff and Myers are ahead of him on the depth side for the right side. I think that's most of the problem and his unhappiness with the Jets organization is that he'snot being used the way he wants to be used.

Yup, that was what I found on sportsnet as well - $7M AAV. I understand why Buff is ahead of him on the depth chart, but I'm surprised that Myers is. But then again I've never really been a fan of Myers

 

[CorgisPer60]

This speculation isn't from nowhere. Per sportsnet:

"RFA-to-be Trouba has requested upwards of $56 million over eight years" - that would be a $7M AAV

Which, again, is sourced from ONE BEAT WRITER for the local rag, which has since been refuted by Overhardt, Trouba's agent. That's the only time anything regarding a number has come out. For all of the Trouba topics on here, you think you guys would pay attention to at least that facet.

I thought there was a wild rumor floating around that Trouba wanted 8 years $56 million and his agent denied it. Pretty sure that Dreger had mentioned it as well. I know that it's well documented that Trouba isn't happy because the only way he gets top 4 minutes is to play on his off hand side on the left and he wants to play his normal right side but both Buff and Myers are ahead of him on the depth side for the right side. I think that's most of the problem and his unhappiness with the Jets organization is that he's not being used the way he wants to be used.

And now it's 'well documented' that Trouba doesn't like playing his off side and is unhappy. Always creating narratives because there isn't **** all to talk about in the off season. Ok, show where it was documented that Trouba is unhappy about playing his off hand.

 

[Huffer]

Mark my words, Trouba will get any where from 6-8 years around $5.5 million most likely and that's still a little more then Rielly and Trouba isn't much better then Rielly or at all.

That would be great IMO. And 5.5 million at 7 or 8 years might be more than a guy like Rielly in terms of dollars per year, that to me would be a great deal considering how expensive those extra UFA years would cost.

I'd pay close to 6M for 7 or 8 years myself.

 

[HarrisonFord]

Which, again, is sourced from ONE BEAT WRITER for the local rag, which has since been refuted by Overhardt, Trouba's agent. That's the only time anything regarding a number has come out. For all of the Trouba topics on here, you think you guys would pay attention to at least that facet.

Do you think he'd have actually confirmed the report if it was true, or have denied it still as well? I'm leaning towards the second option

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Yup, that was what I found on sportsnet as well - $7M AAV. I understand why Buff is ahead of him on the depth chart, but I'm surprised that Myers is. But then again I've never really been a fan of Myers

Yeah i totally agree that Trouba right now should be #2 on the depth chart to Buff and Myers at #3 right now Trouba is far better then Myers any day of the year. And i pretty much agree with you that i'm not a big fan of Myers either. I would take Trouba any day over Myers the only thing Myer's has going for him is his height at 6'8 that's about it.