Rants Mulliniks
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What moves would you have done or do?
Be specific. Be constructive. Don’t tell us what you wouldn’t do.
Toronto Maple Leafs: Who Would Replace Kyle Dubas?
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Be specific. Be constructive. Don’t tell us what you wouldn’t do.
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acrobaticgoalie
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Yet he was a ppg player in the NCAA last year without Cooley and Snuggerud while finishing 2nd on his team in scoring. I haven't watched Minnesota play this year but from what I saw in the summer with Knies and Cooley playing together was Cooley is a puck hog and was killing that line's offense. From the highlights that are constantly being posted in the Marlies thread, Knies appears to create his own offense with his shot and power game.
He also had 2 pts in 4 games at the Olympics.
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You wish! If he gets fired, Dubas is God/Satan arguments will go on for years.
hotpaws
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Every fan wants the team to win !
You unfortunately believe Dubas and the team is the same entity .
Not being a fan of Dubas is no different than not being a fan of say Holl and wanting him replaced . The sad part is you can’t see that .
hotpaws
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No time right now for a long post , I’m at the casino off track donating a few dollars .
If you have any winners shoot me a pm , lol .
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Firing Dubas for the sake of it would be monumentally stupid. Context is important (covid, flat cap, etc.), and he’s put together one of the most talented rosters the franchise has ever had.
Unless you have someone that you can be 100% confident is nailed-on better than Dubas, you’d be an idiot to just replace him.
This is a very broad, very important discussion/decision that has to be made.
Unless you have someone that you can be 100% confident is nailed-on better than Dubas, you’d be an idiot to just replace him.
This is a very broad, very important discussion/decision that has to be made.
I am too but we can’t have a replace a rookie GM with another Rookie GM.
Have to disagree with you . He inherited one of the most talented rosters.
First of all he wouldn’t be fired “ for the sake of it”, he would be fired based on results. This is a results oriented business. We all understand the context, yes we would have beat the Habs if Tavares didn’t get injured, Columbus was the wierd Covid bubble and Korpisalo really stepped up for them. Yes the ref’s f***ed us against Tampa, every series went the distance, the flat cap ect. All of that is true and with some better luck we would have won a playoff series and that’s why he didnt get fired last offseason but eventually he has to just find a way to win a god damn playoff series despite whatever excuses come his way. Time is up, either we win a damn series or he and Keefe are gone.
Well said . A rookie president who hired a rookie GM who then hired a rookie coach. This is the last dance with this MGT group.
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Nah, there was an infamous poll about 2 weeks before Burke was fired asking if leaf fans wanted his contract extended. It was over 80% here that voted "yes".
Most of the Burkites pretended most of what they said about him the past few years just didn't happen. They immediately "approved" of the firing and could now magically acknowledge his mistakes.
There was a small minority of Burkites that fought on a few weeks still claiming he was a genius who shouldn't have been fired... but not too much longer.
Within a couple months the entirety of this leaf board was in agreement that he was a horrendous gm. 80% of whom "wanted him re-singed" weeks before his firing. It's the stranger than fiction type of stuff that you just can't make up.
With Dubas, this board is very divided on him. Nowhere near 80% approval rating. If the leafs lose in the first round again and he's fired, he will IMMEDIATELY go down as one of the biggest mistakes in maple leaf history (given all the assets he had when he started).
All I know is that when it comes to his replacement, I want someone experienced. I'm over rookie Presidents, GM's, and coaches.
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I mean he didn't really put together the talented foundation of the franchise, that was given to him when he took the job
His duties were to re-sign the kids to reasonable deals + surround them with good talent. I don't think he has done a great job of that, particularly how he has addressed the forward depth. He deserves a lot of credit for re-tooling the defensive core, though
Also, the flat cap sucks but we bear some responsibility for being so impacted by it. We were signing guys to big deals when their comparables in the league were either cheaper or had more term. Marner got 10.9 and Mikko got 9.25 a few weeks later. Matthews got 11.634 at 5 years while Eichel got 10x8 and McDavid 12.5x8
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They did just win with the Raptors, but at the same time I think that Masai had full control.
I don't think that's a problem. It could be as simple as having too many voices on the hockey side? I am pretty curious as well. If I am not mistaken, with revenue sharing it's more beneficial to the Leafs to have higher operational costs so that the League does not dip as much.
Ultimately I wish I knew and that the team would just start a winning series or two and a cup. I am getting up there in age now and I'd really like to see it happen this decade.
This is what I don’t get though. Dubas really have not done anything at the NHL level or any pro Hockey level before his Leafs career to have such a diehard fan base. And not like he had done anything spectacular as Leafs AGM and GM to warrant a followings either.
It is so weird, as if a lot of guys just want to support Dubas to piss off Leafsnation.
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I think they have 5 GMs. A teams have 4- Tampa and Chicago for example. Most teams have 3.I don't know about that but one thing is for certain Dubas is the only GM in the league with a heckuva lot of AGMs. I can't find anothe rteam with so many AGMs
Most of that is made up. I don't think Dubas has a fan base at all. It is the Leafs that do. The fans that support Dubas as GM are part of Leafsnation.
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is this the Lou that i was told inherited an AHL caliber team without Johnny and then brought them to b2b conference finals ?
It has to have something to do with analytics and not playing the game. It's like if he can, we all can. Kind of thing.
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I would have sought a legit number 1 goalie and D to go along with Marner, Matthews and Nylander who, in turn, would have been signed to more team friendly deals.
I have my theories on why he has the fanbase he does but that's not a discussion fit for this thread or board.
When he signed Reilly to that 8 year boat anchor he sealed his own fate. That and the Tavares contract means they can’t build a deep enough team to go deep in the playoffs or even win a round in the Atlantic. His lack of experience and arrogance in continuing to run it back has shown he’s not up to the job. Bring in Trotz and let him rebuild the team into a cup contender. Shanny should be shown the door too.
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