Toronto Maple Leafs are surprisingly underperforming

[MessierII]

Lol, Edmonton signed Jack Campbell for $25 million. Glass houses….stones. Yeah.

Campbell is way better than any current leafs goalie and makes 300k more than Murray.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

One thing for certain- We've maybe gained some respect from Cali teams!

 

[MessierII]

They didn't go into the season with Kallgren, he's their #4. Unfortunately, 2 of their goalies are injured.

You went into a season relying on Matt Murray to be your starter. Matt Murray who has been injury riddled for years and was on waivers last year.

 

[Devils090]

Earning that handshake line respect

 

[Divine]

You went into a season relying on Matt Murray to be your starter. Matt Murray who has been injury riddled for years and was on waivers last year.

No they didn't.

They signed Samsonov who started more games than Matt Murray last year. It was supposed to be a tandem.

Unfortunately both Murray & Woll got injured, Samsonov was under the weather and multiple back to backs so their #4 became their #1 more often than expected.

 

[Kennerback]

Didn’t the Ducks outplay the Leafs for large portions of this game?

I saw the 3rd period and Ducks started smelling blood and really gave it to them. When they tied the game, Leafs were completely deflated. it was a one-way affair from then on.

 

[TheNumber4]

Call the Leafs 5th string goalie up.

Kallgren lost to SJ, Anaheim & Arizona and didn't put .900 goaltending up against any of those offensively-challenged teams.

1.) Samsonov
2.) Murray - Injured
3.) Woll - Injured
4.) Kallgren - can't put up a .900 against bottom feeders
5.) ?

Fine. We’ll give you Koskinen’s number.

 

[34]

Campbell is way better than any current leafs goalie and makes 300k more than Murray.

Campbell f***ing sucks!

I will be the first to admit the Toronto is goaltending is terrible, but Jack Campbell is a career back up at best.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Whether or not Tavares has played like an $11,000,000 player is irrelevant.

What is relevant is that they already had two other forwards making $11,000,000, and therefore another $11,000,000 forward wasn't a very smart way to construct a roster.

About the bolded: Let's be fair.

Tavares was signed in July 2018.

Matthews received that extension in February 2019.

Marner was signed to that contract in September 2019.

So the Leafs did not have two other forwards making $11M.

And now I will go and wash the finger that typed this...

 

[Divine]

Fine. We’ll give you Koskinen’s number.

He's better than Kallgren. He can be our #4. Kallgren is the Marlies backup who is playing in NHL games.

 

[MessierII]

One thing for certain- We've maybe gained some respect from Cali teams!

If only they could play in the pacific and waltz their way to the cup finals.

No they didn't.

They signed Samsonov who started more games than Matt Murray last year.

So they traded for Murray to make 4.7 million to be their backup? At worst those guys were going to split starts. Either way it was a horrible decision and a massive downgrade in the season leading up to Matthews extension talks.

 

[Based Anime Fan]

And I can't recall how many Leafs fans told me the Devils were absolute shit and that we'd be fighting for the bottom of the Metro.

Lol.

Lmao.

 

[Bounces R Way]

They have too much talent for this to be prolonged so is this a case of Keefe "losing the room" or something?

I'm no Leafs fan but this current stretch is bizarre.

I don't even think that's true anymore. They have 4 good forwards, a roving idiot as a #1D and basically nothing else of note. This is a poorly constructed hockey team.

 

[Divine]

If only they could play in the pacific and waltz their way to the cup finals.

So they traded for Murray to make 4.7 million to be their backup? At worst those guys were going to split starts. Either way it was a horrible decision and a massive downgrade in the season leading up to Matthews extension talks.

It's not a massive downgrade?

Samsonov is outplaying Campbell
Mrazek is injured with a below .900 save %, Murray is injured with a below .900 save % - so it's a wash.

Where's the downgrade?

 

[Theodore450]

I still remember January of this year. Talk that Matthew’s was better than both Mcdavid and Drai. Heck he’s not even better than Mackinon and honestly a healthy eichel too

 

[MessierII]

Campbell f***ing sucks!

I will be the first to admit the Toronto is goaltending is terrible, but Jack Campbell is a career back up at best.

A better one than any goalie in the Leafs organization currently.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Never change leafs…

Without the leafs I’d have 50% less posts

 

[MessierII]

It's not a massive downgrade?

Samsonov is outplaying Campbell
Mrazek is injured, Murray is injured - so it's a wash.

Where's the downgrade?

Call me when Samsonov gives you a .915 and a winning record over 45+ games. He’s never done it in the nhl.

 

[Divine]

Call me when Samsonov gives you a .915 and a winning record over 45+ games. He’s never done it in the nhl.

Neither has Campbell. So where is the downgrade?

 

[North]

About the bolded: Let's be fair.

Tavares was signed in July 2018.

Matthews received that extension in February 2019.

Marner was signed to that contract in September 2019.

So the Leafs did not have two other forwards making $11M.

And now I will go and wash the finger that typed this...

You’re right. The issue is that signing Tavares to that contract inflated salaries for the RFAs.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

It was taken just now. Check yourself.

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I'm posting the objective numbers. I don't run MoneyPuck. Take it up with the stats sites.

Objective doesn’t necessarily mean valid

 

[King In The North]

Call me when Samsonov gives you a .915 and a winning record over 45+ games. He’s never done it in the nhl.

I mean to be fair neither did Campbell until last year

 

[SnowblindNYR]

The Rangers, Penguins, and I believe the Blues as well have all had 4 game losing streaks already. The Leafs are going to be fine. Lots of good teams starting off slow.

 

[34]

A better one than any goalie in the Leafs organization currently.

He ain’t better than Samsonov.


Murray is terrible, just like Campbell.

 

[MessierII]

Neither has Campbell. So where is the downgrade?

You really gonna be that guy. Sorry make it .914 like that changes the point