Confirmed with Link: Toronto gets Campbell and Clifford for Moore, 2nd (cond) & 3rd (Part II)

[nuck]

He didn't fit in our system because our coach didn't like him. We all know the Holl story, you can't judge a player's value only based on a coaches opinion otherwise we could say Trotz seems to like Martin, therefore Martin has value.

What is the Holl story?

 

[saltming]

Bounced right out of here sideway up, down and slapped in the face hahaaaa

A bodacious way to go

 

[Walshy7]

Mirtle is just as bad if not worse since he decided to be the the Dube's publicist .

agree to disagree then

whats the bald guys name im thinking of? he wrote for the sun (i think) and was on sportsnet broadcasts for a while, its killing me trying to remember his name

 

[ShaneFalco]

 

[hotpaws]

agree to disagree then

whats the bald guys name im thinking of? he wrote for the sun (i think) and was on sportsnet broadcasts for a while, its killing me trying to remember his name

cox ?

 

[saltming]

agree to disagree then

whats the bald guys name im thinking of? he wrote for the sun (i think) and was on sportsnet broadcasts for a while, its killing me trying to remember his name

Traikos?

 

[Drytoast]

This is what we had, then gave up. Then traded for!



It's 2020. Fighting is no longer needed. Our powerplay will be our enforcer...

lol.

 

[Drytoast]

How about this:
Maple Leafs get an 'important acquisition' in Kyle Clifford - Sportsnet.ca
At the same time, while we certainly shouldn’t expect Clifford to contribute a ton of offence, it’s worth pointing out that his 52.12 Corsi-for percentage (CF%) at 5-on-5 last season was the second-best mark on the Kings, and he’s at 55.18 per cent this season. When Clifford was on the ice for the Kings at 5-on-5 this season, the team generated 57.08 per cent of the high danger chances. Los Angeles was outscored in these situations, but that could be more indicative of the team’s status as a bottom-feeder that gets outscored on most nights.

Or this

Clifford is in the final year of a five-year, $8-million dollar contract. He comes with a cap hit of $1.6-million, but the Kings will retain 50 per cent of that, so the Leafs only have to deal with $800,000 on the books

Or this:
\https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2020...xchange-for-trevor-moore-and-two-draft-picks/
A fan favourite who remained beloved among the fan base and in the locker room even through the recent lean seasons in LA, Kyle Clifford has a couple of Cup rings to his name, plays a mean game, and can chip in 5-10 goals / 20-25 points / 80-100 penalty minutes a season in a bottom-six role. The 29-year-old has averaged around 11 minutes a night in LA this year, scoring six goals and 14 points in 53 games. He has historically stacked up as a higher-end fourth-liner in terms of his possession and defensive impacts on an LA team that won its Cups playing a tight-checking, heavy possession game.
You basically know what you are getting out of Clifford on most nights: While he lacks for foot speed, he brings 10-12 honest and hardnosed minutes of north-south hockey. A capable fighter, Clifford is known to step in for his teammates and has earned respect around the league for his character in that area. However you may value it (or not), that isn’t a trait the Leafs had much (any?) of in their ranks.

Or this:
Maple Leafs get an 'important acquisition' in Kyle Clifford - Sportsnet.ca

“When people think about the Kings over the last decade, Anze Kopitar, Drew Doughty, Jonathan Quick get brought up, but Clifford was there for both of the teams that won the Stanley Cup,” the LA Times’ Jack Harris said on the Fan 590’s Lead Off. “He was one of the longest-tenured guys in that room and had really become a leadership guy in the way that he would play with a lot of young guys when they would get called up, playing in the bottom six of the forward lines.”

or you could have had healthy scratch often, 3-4 min a night Matt Martin at 2.5 who can hit, but doesn't do much else. Great call

Do you expect Clifford to play substantially more ice time than Martin? Is he going to be top 6?
Do you expect Clifford to resign for substantially less than Martin next year?

Salary retention is only on the books THIS YEAR. And I sure as shit hope that Dubas doesn't consider Clifford as a rental to help push us into the playoffs and then let walk in the summer? Because if that's the case...LOL.

So hoping that Dubas isn't an idiot. And resigns Clifford because this type of player is more of a value over the duration of full seasons...then he is going to want more than 1.6 Which will likely put him much closer to Martin's 2.5 Which means we got the same guy again.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

A bodacious way to go

Eeeeyeah, i think I’ll go listen to “ sultans of swing” lol. Wish i could go play with Cliffordawhile, get them juices flowin ha

 

[saltming]

Eeeeyeah, i think I’ll go listen to “ sultans of swing” lol

While drinking milk?

 

[ShaneFalco]

Do you expect Clifford to play substantially more ice time than Martin? Is he going to be top 6?
Do you expect Clifford to resign for substantially less than Martin next year?

Salary retention is only on the books THIS YEAR. And I sure as **** hope that Dubas doesn't consider Clifford as a rental to help push us into the playoffs and then let walk in the summer? Because if that's the case...LOL.

We're done here. You do you

 

[Wafflewhipper]

While drinking milk?

And eating tomatoes ha nice ripe ones

 

[Stamkos4life]

Not a fan of the trade but we'll see if it works.

 

[Drytoast]

We're done here. You do you

LOL. Ya I'd probably bow out as well if I were you. You are not making any sense.

Clifford is not a rental to help push us into the playoffs for crying out loud. He plays a role designed to protect guys over the course of full seasons. That's his role.

What you are suggesting is really asinine.

 

[ShaneFalco]

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Not a fan of the trade but we'll see if it works.

I think itworks

 

[Bomber0104]

Mitch keeping his new bodyguard happy!

 

[saltming]

And eating tomatoes ha nice ripe ones

I think it best we stop here while the jugs are full. We don't want to get trapped in the cleavage of our discussion

 

[Stamkos4life]

Shocking

"Shocking" that I am willing to wait and see before saying dubas is amazing or that he messed up again?

Remember the kadri trade? So many leaf fans immediately branded the trade a huge win for dubas. Couple months later and the trade isnt looking nearly as good.

I dont understand why you guys are more supportive of dubas than you are of the team. Its wild.

 

[Duffman955]

Not a fan of the trade but we'll see if it works.

HF poster: Dubas sucks for not getting a backup goalie, defense and grit.

Dubas: gets backup goalie and grit for spare parts

HF poster: I am not a fan of this trade.

 

[Walshy7]

cox ?

ahhhh yes thats him. I just couldnt even remember a letter of his name for some reason. He is a forgettable dude though.

thanks that was going to annoy me all day

 

[ShaneFalco]

"Shocking" that I am willing to wait and see before saying dubas is amazing or that he messed up again?

Remember the kadri trade? So many leaf fans immediately branded the trade a huge win for dubas. Couple months later and the trade isnt looking nearly as good.

I dont understand why you guys are more supportive of dubas than you are of the team. Its wild.

Maybe willing to see how things play out before declaring anything?
And what does the Kadri trade have to do with this one?

 

[Walshy7]

Traikos?

no it was Cox for the life of me couldn't remember his name

 

[saltming]

no it was Cox for the life of me couldn't remember his name

Those 3 letters! I mean Traikos is so much easier to remember that Co... what was the last letter again?

 

[Walshy7]

Those 3 letters! I mean Traikos is so much easier to remember that Co... what was the last letter again?

just an utterly forgettable human, he looks like a character on a guess who board