Player Discussion Torey Krug - Part II
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Mr. Make-Believe
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You either don't know MA Bergeron very well, or you must really hate Torey Krug.
Completely different. Hamilton has #1 potential and they're overpaying him now in hopes that he'll be a big bargain in 2 or 3 years. Krug does not have #1 or even top pairing potential.
I would point to Seids 4m... Both are specialists to some extent. If he continues to slump that'll be more likely, but we'll see. I don't think we can afford to lose him.
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Dougie Hamilton is 6'5" and has the chance to evolve defensively into a #1 D. Torey Krug is 5' Hobbit and no matter how well he improves his defense (and I will subscribe to the fact he works on it 20x as much as Dougie) he will never be a #1.
GloryDaze4877
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1. Doesn't matter to me if you don't "buy it" or not. His first two years in the NHL, his shooting %'s were 7.7 and 5.9 or an average of 6.8. This year he's shooting 1.8%. I have a much easier time "buying" that he's just having no luck (or he's hurt) than I do this year is the norm and not the exception.
2. I'm not sure what your point is? What I was saying is that after two years playing against 3rd-4th line competition and QBing the PP, the B's asked him to play Top 4 minutes against Top 6 F's. Any time a player takes a step forward and is playing more minutes against better players, there will be a period of adjustment. I don't think Krug plays ES like he's on the man advantage, so not sure what that's about?
3. If I had to guess, I would say that Krug is "gripping his stick" a bit and trying to pick corners, which is why he seems to be missing the net and hitting posts. Once again, his career shooting % and the rare times I have seen him in the shootout don't suggest to me that he's an inaccurate shooter.
1. So your reasoning for his fall off is being hurt or bad luck? OK
I just would't say that through 56 games that he is injured or having bad luck in every single one of them
2. Meaning that he a one trick pony, he shoots into players shin pads more anyone I've ever seen.
His pump fake then wrist shot into the slot has been figured out by every team.
And if he can't handle that competition he should be dropped down.
He can't handle it, he's a third pair threat to teams nothing more than that. (McQuaid/Krug)
3. Theres a huge difference between going in on a goalie in a shootout and shooting from the point or tops of circles(power play). I have seen him as well and yes I will suggest you his in game shooting is inaccurate. Whether he's gripping his stick or not he's inaccurate in in game situations.
GloryDaze4877
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It looks like we pretty much disagree on almost everything regarding Krug, so why don't we just leave it at that?
ODAAT
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the market sets the price, I`ll wager he`ll be right in the 4.5-5 mill mark and I`m ok with that
Demon Eyes
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I watched a video today of blades teaming up with lucky to make a basket. i thought Torey was moonlighting as lucky when i first saw the kid.
Colt.45Orr
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Krejci and Krug on the points give us a dynamic #1 PP --anybody that underestimates that didn't sit through years of our ugly, ugly, uuuuuuugly PP under Julien.
Sadly, I watch pretty much every minute of every game and I have no doubt in my mind that Krug is extremely snake bitten. I think it has gotten into his head and exasperated the problem but it certainly isn't from a lack of skill or desire. The dam could break for him with his talent level.
Sadly, I watch pretty much every minute of every game and I have no doubt in my mind that Krug is extremely snake bitten. I think it has gotten into his head and exasperated the problem but it certainly isn't from a lack of skill or desire. The dam could break for him with his talent level.
I'm personally not sold on Krug.... he's not as good as people make him out to be nor is he as bad as others make him out to be. I think he's been figured out and scouted by a lot of teams so they know what to expect from him and he hasn't adapted to that yet. is he worth 5M i don't think so...4 i could live with. i still he him exposed sometimes in the D zone with other teams bigger forwards. he doesn't have the size to hang in puck battles or net front battles. he is a heart n soul kinda guy which is good and does offer a level on our PP we haven't seen in quite some time. i'm not sure if he's a better 2nd pairing fit or if we've ended up paying our 3 pairing 7M....
CharasLazyWrister
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People trying to place a price tag on Krug right now, after the biggest slump of his career, should be more patient IMO.
His play lately is a result of a guy truly struggling with confidence, and not a reflection of what he has done/is capable of. I agree...5 does sound way too high at the moment, but I could really see him going on another spectacular run given his skillset and if he can regain that confidence.
His play lately is a result of a guy truly struggling with confidence, and not a reflection of what he has done/is capable of. I agree...5 does sound way too high at the moment, but I could really see him going on another spectacular run given his skillset and if he can regain that confidence.
PIMsCup
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I did some digging, and found some interesting stuff with regards to his stick selection.
In the first video (older) he a shorter, more flexible stick by Reebok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLRphM4gKo0
2015 he transitioned to Warrior brand. The stick he uses now is stiffer and longer.
https://soundcloud.com/warriorhockeypodcast/warrior-hockey-torey-krug-of-the-boston-bruins-interview
One other possible contributing factor to his low shooting % this year could be the muscle he put on in the off-season.
In the first video (older) he a shorter, more flexible stick by Reebok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLRphM4gKo0
2015 he transitioned to Warrior brand. The stick he uses now is stiffer and longer.
https://soundcloud.com/warriorhockeypodcast/warrior-hockey-torey-krug-of-the-boston-bruins-interview
One other possible contributing factor to his low shooting % this year could be the muscle he put on in the off-season.
If Krug wants 4-5 million per year then he should be packaged to land a future #1 D-Man, not worth that for a PP specialist.
Pia8988
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PP specialists don't play 21-22 minutes a night. Krug is actually 2nd on the team in terms of ES TOI/G next to Chara. Obviously used heavily in offensive situations, but you can't dispute his ability to play. Ideally he's not a #2 (in terms of ice time), but that's where this team is at right now. He's playing two or three spots up from where he should be. I'm fine with him on a 2nd pairing.... with the right partner. He's young. mobile. gritty. A long term piece IMO.
His upside is a solid #4, with PP ability do not think he reaches his full potential in Boston, if he has to go in a package for a top D-Man you do it.
TheBigBadB
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Oh I know Marc very well. Too weak in his defensive zone but has a better shot than Krug. Pick your poison really. Until Krug puts both together he shouldn't be paid like a top defender
Pia8988
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5 million isn't top money anymore though. Top money would be 7-9, which he won't get.
CharasLazyWrister
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Krug is better, but that's actually not a bad comparison at all.
Small guy, big shot, very offensively minded, PP specialist...
Krug just needs to make a real commitment to building his confidence and working on his defensive game. I don't have doubt he'll pan out much better in the long run than MA Bergeron.
Jean_Jacket41
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If he wants 4-5M? He should be extended yesterday.
Not Worth that for a PP specialist? That is exactly what you will have to pay for a PP specialist. If it a great two way, it will be 7-9M.
That is the new pay scale. Unidimentionnal specialist are now getting that type of money. Studs will all gun for PK 9M from now on.
I would easily give Krug 5M per. I love offensive D and would like one on each pairing. You have to pay for offense. If you don't like it, well be stuck with the K.Miller of the world...
My wishful hope is that he signs a Klingberg extension at 4.25M/7y. But ~5M per for 5-6y would be just fine for me.
Then sign Yandle as UFA and try to get Shattenkirk for a boatload of picks/prospect and ice this top-6 next year:
Chara-Yandle
Shattenkirk-C.Miller
Krug-McQuaid
Morrow/Trotman
Jean_Jacket41
Neely = HOF
This.
Just like 6-7M is not top money for forwards anymore. 10.5M is now thanks to Kane/Toews/Kopitar and soon to be Stamkos.
5M for Krug? No problem with that. At all.
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