Player Discussion Torey Krug - Part II

[wintersej]

Krug is shooting at about a third his career shooting percentage. Did he forget how to shoot? Is it luck? Is he feeling the contract pressure?

Who knows.

But, I'd bet anything that he won't shoot 1.8% the rest of his career.

Would I pay Krug 5 million? Probably.

Would I give him an A on his jersey the day Chara retires? Abso****inglutely.

Would I include him in a deal to get a top pairing guy? 1000% yes.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

If he was made available I very much disagree

He should not be made available however.

I'll disagree with your statement. What team would give up a player already playing in the top 6 at a fraction of the price? Definitely not lotto teams. So which contender would? Cost efficient players playing in top roles are keys to teams success in today's NHL. Krejci was 25 when we won the cup, younger teams are likely going to want to find the next 25 year old Krejci; instead of acquiring the older one. Contenders can't take on that kind of contract, especially giving up young talent already in that role.

As for being available. I think anyone on this team should be available for the right return. And that doesn't exclude Krug, Krejci, Pastrnak, Rask, or whomever. Even Bergeron has the right price tag. A team willing to pay it, might be a different issue, but anyone should be available.

 

[patty59]

I just don't think he puts up enough points and doesn't play enough important minutes to warrant 5M a year. He's got to do one or the other IMO.

 

[BadBruins]

I happen to think he's better defensively than he's given credit for. He struggles with size (obviously), but his decision making is mostly good. Probably the best among current Bruins defenseman (I know, not saying much). Is he a top pairing D? No. I'm comfortable with him in a #3-5 spot though.

He's also still a young guy, especially when you take into account he's a defenseman. Should be a piece you look to keep long term. I also think there's another notch both offensively and defensively he can reach. I wouldn't hesitate to give him something like 4 X $5M/per.

 

[wintersej]

I had the same initial reaction to the Vatanen rumors but some here have rightly pointed out that Vatanen plays top PK minutes on one of the best PKs in the league so they aren't exactly carbon copies of each other. And adding a 2nd Krug would make this team better anyway as Krug is probably our 2nd best D (not saying much).

BTW I wasn't saying earlier that the Bruins should get rid of Krug. I love the guy, but I think the Torey Krug as top 4 D experiment is kind of a failure. He's not a guy who can anchor your 2nd pair and maybe never will be.

Vatanen has played 60 more minutes on the PK than Krug, yes. 4.37 GAA at 4 on 5 ranks next to last on the Ducks, though. Lindholm is the star of that PK.

I think we can agree Krug isn't ready to lead a 2nd pairing on a good team. I have no problem with him playing 22+ minutes a night with the right partner, though. Is a #4 that might get better (he is still just 24) worth what he will ask for this offseason? Pffft. Well, I'd rather pay Shatty 8 than Krug 5, put it that way.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

Krug is going to head to arbitration if Sweeney listens to what you guys are saying. Not saying I disagree, but it's a pretty likely outcome.

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

He's sticking around. Maybe the lack of form gives us a nice discount.

 

[Pia8988]

No inside knowledge but he's going to ask to be paid...in my eyes he's already overpaid.
Personally I like the upside of C. Miller and Morrow better and they'd come cheaper and offer the same offense in time as Krug does now.

Is this how Warsofsky could replace Krug? Morrow hasn't produced like Krug during the AHL let alone pretending he can produce .5 PPG at the NHL level. Colin Miller could potentially produce at Krug's rate, but why can't we have both?

 

[Alan Ryan]

GloryDaze4877

Needs to be moved no matter what?

Why?

Is he a team cancer? Has he given an indications that he will not be reasonable in his negotiations? And the idea than he's fallen off offensively is BS. He's on pace for the same amount of points as the last two years, just with more assists because his shooting % is only 1.8%. If he we anywhere his normal % he would be on pace for career highs.

I look at Krug and see a leader, a battler, a kid that wasn't drafted and worked his ass off to make it to the NHL despite lacking ideal size. He just gave away 50+ Pounds and 6 inches fighting Chris Stewart for Christ's sake, and people want to trade him?

Jesus, these are the kinds of players YOU WANT ON YOUR TEAM!!!



Yup--agree fully. Krug will be a leader in Boston for a long time.

 

[Hali33]

I'm a hypocrite because I can lose my ****ing mind watching Connolly's offensive struggles but I have zero concerns about Krug's.

Nor do I have concerns about his next contract or him in a #4 role. Hope he's a Bruin for a long time and that I see him wearing the A soon.

 

[13Hockey]

Krug is a big game player

It would make me feel a lot better about giving him a long term deal if we make the playoffs and he produces like he has in his 2 postseason trips

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I just don't think he puts up enough points and doesn't play enough important minutes to warrant 5M a year. He's got to do one or the other IMO.

Jared Spurgeon of the Wild is a very good comparison to Krug in size, style of play and role on team. He just signed an extension for $5.2m per.

 

[ODAAT]

Jared Spurgeon of the Wild is a very good comparison to Krug in size, style of play and role on team. He just signed an extension for $5.2m per.

Pretty much the dollar ball park where I suspect Krug will be paid and he`s earned it

If the B`s were to lose him, fans here would be irate as they scramble and try to find a replacement for him

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Pretty much the dollar ball park where I suspect Krug will be paid and he`s earned it

If the B`s were to lose him, fans here would be irate as they scramble and try to find a replacement for him

I'm hoping that Krug is the "team guy" I think he is and takes a little less because he likes Boston and wants to play here. That being said, I don't think he's going to give too much of a hometown discount. The goal numbers being down can only help the B's, and I would be ecstatic if they re-upped Krug for less than $5m.

 

[77bestever*]

I'm hoping that Krug is the "team guy" I think he is and takes a little less because he likes Boston and wants to play here. That being said, I don't think he's going to give too much of a hometown discount. The goal numbers being down can only help the B's, and I would be ecstatic if they re-upped Krug for less than $5m.

For what this newbies opinion is worth. I trade him before I pay this small,weak on the boards, weak net front presence weak in one on one battles in the d zone Defenseman as fast as I can while his value is high. Unless he takes 3-3.5 million to be my 3rd pairing PP specialist.

Great O skills when he can hit the net and makes it into the attacking zone, which seems to be a problem lately. But for me, I like when my defensemen can play some, Ummm, Defense.

He brings some intangibles I give that. But we don't have extra money for that. He has sand, but watching him get slapped around by the Chris Stewarts of the world does us no good no matter how commendable it is.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

For what this newbies opinion is worth. I trade him before I pay this small,weak on the boards, weak net front presence weak in one on one battles in the d zone Defenseman as fast as I can while his value is high. Unless he takes 3-3.5 million to be my 3rd pairing PP specialist.

Great O skills when he can hit the net and makes it into the attacking zone, which seems to be a problem lately. But for me, I like when my defensemen can play some, Ummm, Defense.

He brings some intangibles I give that. But we don't have extra money for that. He has sand, but watching him get slapped around by the Chris Stewarts of the world does us no good no matter how commendable it is.

You are vastly underrating Krug, and I will leave it at that.

 

[Saxon Eric]

You are vastly underrating Krug, and I will leave it at that.

Well he is a third pairing PP specialist, he does have a boatload of intangibles though
I'd be looking to improve defensemen 1-4 first before paying him big $, maybe just qualify him for next year and see how it goes

 

[thegodfather]

I'm hoping that Krug is the "team guy" I think he is and takes a little less because he likes Boston and wants to play here. That being said, I don't think he's going to give too much of a hometown discount. The goal numbers being down can only help the B's, and I would be ecstatic if they re-upped Krug for less than $5m.

You know every player should be a team player....but guess what...they aren't.

Hockey players careers are short and with the way it's been going lately with teams bringing in youth over experience because of money demands Krug will be like every other player out there...

Show me the money...

 

[Bahston*]

This guy is either taking a slapper a mile past the net or directly in the center of the goalies chest(most likely in the chest). Only time he's useful is moving the puck around or making big breakout passes.

 

[ODAAT]

I'm hoping that Krug is the "team guy" I think he is and takes a little less because he likes Boston and wants to play here. That being said, I don't think he's going to give too much of a hometown discount. The goal numbers being down can only help the B's, and I would be ecstatic if they re-upped Krug for less than $5m.

4.5-5 is ideally where I`d like to see the number come in at

 

[ODAAT]

This guy is either taking a slapper a mile past the net or directly in the center of the goalies chest(most likely in the chest). Only time he's useful is moving the puck around or making big breakout passes.

guessing you haven`t watched the B`s much

Guessing you must have missed the 160+ shots on goal

He`s consistently around the puck offensively, losing a Krug would not be a good thing

 

[Bahston*]

guessing you haven`t watched the B`s much

Guessing you must have missed the 160+ shots on goal

He`s consistently around the puck offensively, losing a Krug would not be a good thing

160+ shots on goal and how many goals? The guy is caught staring at the rafters after shooting the puck in the center of the goalies chest more than any other player. He might be around the puck a lot and have a lot of shots but he can't finish the job. Especially when he's fighting for a contract and getting paid 5+ mil. I mean is really playing as good as other top 2 defenseman in the league cause those are the minutes he's playing.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

I agree with most of what you are saying, except for the "very bad year offensively" part.

2013-14: 79 games, 14g/26a/40p

2014-15: 78 games, 12g/27a/39p

2015-16: 81 games, 5g/33a/38p (projected)

It's just that I expected an increase in production. Not producting less than his career average the past two years. And that is with a top-PP to get pts too...

I would offer him Klingberg money (4.25M per for 7 years) and hope he takes it. Will likely take more than that though...

 

[TaroTsujimoto]

Krug has hit a ridiculous number of posts this season. The lack of finish he is showing right now is an aberration. Krug has also made good strides defensively by learning not to try to overpower guys. Those referring to him as a bottom pair d-man are living in the past.

 

[shackattack]

Krug needs more offence to justify paying him 5 million plus.His defence is weak vs most teams..Watch him lose numerous battles for pucks and he cannot do nothing with guys in front of Rask.The kings ragdolled him the entire game .I know it was bad game for most but clearly they exploited him.