I agree, he's top pair d-man he's getting paid like one and he's playing the minutes of one. He's just not putting the numbers up of a top pair d-man.
Player Discussion Torey Krug - Part II
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I agree, he's top pair d-man he's getting paid like one and he's playing the minutes of one. He's just not putting the numbers up of a top pair d-man.
I respectfully disagree. Time and time again he is over powered. And has always been. There is a reason he was not drafted. It is because he cannot handle NHL players in his end. It happened that we have needed an O dman for a long time so Chia took a shot. Again, I admire his spunk and he attacks the net very well but in my opinion he is a bottom pairing guy that if a team can afford to carry a PP specialist, He could be that guy.
Maybe I am just used to defensemen who play defense. I have seen every game he has ever played and his defense has not improved. I would trade him or I could live with him at 3M 3.5 tops. But to me, he is a great chip because he is over rated in my opinion. To me, He is a very very poor mans miniYandle. Funny how guys here hate the thought of Yandle here because he is not good defensively, but want to pay this guy 5 M because he is good offensively. Yet not as good as Yandle offensively. I don't get it.
guessing you haven`t watched the B`s much
Guessing you must have missed the 160+ shots on goal
He`s consistently around the puck offensively, losing a Krug would not be a good thing
But, How is he defensively. Since that's his position ?
Couldn't agree more.
Jean_Jacket41
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I would have both signed for ~5M and be very happy with it. Pair them with a good D Partner and let them bring skills from the back end. Ideally, I would like one puck mover on each pair.
C.Miller, Krug and Yandle would do it. Shattenkirk would be even better.
GloryDaze4877
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You have watched "every game he has ever played"?
Did you follow him around at Mich State, then Providence? When does the court order expire? You must have spent so much time following Krug, you didn't realize Teravainen won a Cup with Chicago last year?
I have not watched every game he's ever played, but have watched enough to form an opinion. His defensive instincts and positioning are far better than guys like Yandle, as is his puck retrieval. The only issues he really has in the defensive zone stem from his lack of size. He can be overwhelmed at times by bigger forwards, but his compete is good and you greatly exaggerate him losing all his board battles. I watched Yandle in every televised playoff game last year with the Rags and came away thoroughly unimpressed.
You are welcome to your opinion, but I'm pretty sure if teams had a do-over on Krug, the majority of them would draft him. In a perfect world, the B's top 4 is so solid that Krug is a #5 and a PP quarterback, but I think he can be a 4. Also, as far as I know, Chia had nothing to do with the B's taking a chance on Krug, and that bus was driven by Sweeney.
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DitClapper
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I think the weight he put on over the summer has effected him. Doesn't seem to be as elusive as he used to be.
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JEM28
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I'm just curious, how was he as a peewee and Bantam? Was he like a man among boys? Wait...you were a man among boys. Creepy.
I am not he just made some points I strongly agree with.
I never touched on Krugs' defensive game because thats not his strong point as a smaller OFD. I think his defensive game has vastly improved since coming into the league but his game is offensive and he's not contributing as he should for a 5mil dollar offensive defenseman.
GloryDaze4877
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Unfortunately, you and I don't set the going rate for PMD's, the market does. Jared Spurgeon is a similar D with less points the last two years and older than Krug, and he just signed an extension for $5.2m.
Yeah thats the cost of an NHL caliber defensemen these days, its crazy. All points retracted.
6 goals last night and Krug was basically invisible. We do not need this guy. Morrow will be a better all around player some day, Sell this guy while the shine is still on. He should be part of a package for a real dman.
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He is pressing too hard on the PP trying to get a goal. Teams have been taking away Bergeron and letting mostly Krejci and Krug take blasts from the point, but they aren't being very creative with it and leading to a large amount of blocked shots. Having all those bodies crowded in the slot isn't helping that. The PP looked better when Bergeron started moving around to get more involved.
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CharasLazyWrister
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I've thought about this as well.
Reminds me of how Blake Wheeler looked when he first added weight. They wanted to make him tougher, but the added weight seemed to sacrifice a huge part of his game: speed.
Wheeler has sacrificed speed, Really, Don't look that way to me or when he blew by our DMAN last night...And not to mention has become a top winger...
Krug on the other hand is the same weak very weak defenseman he was when he got here. % million for this guy would so dumb. Especially if they let Louie go because they don't want to pay him 6 million. The two players are not even in the same hemisphere.
GloryDaze4877
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You are right, they aren't in the same hemisphere.
One is a young D that the B's should want to keep and extend.
The other is a F on the back 9 they should sell to the highest bidder.
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Riiiigggghhht, Louie is 30 on the back nine as he grades out currently as a top ten forward in the nhl, has a two way game rivaled by guys only named Bergeron and has played for and will continue to play for his National team in world cup events, while Torrey Krug never even gott drafted and cant even hit the net with nobody in front of him or stop anyone on the boards or near the net.
But yea....Your guy is better. You win.
GloryDaze4877
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Krug's not "my guy", but apparently you live in a vacuum? Krug will be 25 next hockey season, has been in the league 3 years, and I believe he's still improving. Loui Eriksson will be 31 this summer and is playing in his 10th NHL season. By definition, "on the back 9" means that a player is in the latter stages of their career. For that not to be true with Loui, he would have to play another 11 years, which is not going to happen. He will likely earn his money for the first 2-3 years of the deal, and after that all bets are off.
Krug is 6 years younger than Loui and I will take 6-9 years of a #4-5 d-man that can QB the PP over 2-3 years of a Top 6 wing. Particularly when I can likely turn that wing into a 1st round draft pick and a very good prospect, that either step into the lineup in a few years or turn into more immediate help on the blue line.
I'm not a Krug guy...I'm not a Loui guy...I'm a Bruins guy. Dealing Eriksson is the right move for the franchise because they are NOT winning a Cup this year, even if they do add at the TDL.
JEM28
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Even if they found a way to add without moving Loui, they are not winning this year. And, they are likely not winning a cup next year, whether they keep Loui or not.
It's about the future now, and with that as the focal point, Loui makes no sense here.
CharasLazyWrister
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Okay, chill out for a second.
I said Wheeler sacrificed speed when he FIRST PUT ON WEIGHT. He's an extremely good player.
So then Bergeron makes no sense here either...Should we trade him ? Krejci ? Wow, what we could get for Marchand right now.....Lets trade him also....Anyone else ?
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