Confirmed Trade: - [TOR/TBL] Darren Raddysh (signs 8 years, $8.5M AAV) for 2026 5th round pick (MOD WARNING 253) | Page 44 | HFBoards - NHL Message Board and Forum for National Hockey League

Confirmed Trade: [TOR/TBL] Darren Raddysh (signs 8 years, $8.5M AAV) for 2026 5th round pick (MOD WARNING 253)

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I just can't wrap my head around Tampa signing the player to an 8-year extension to benefit a division rival with the extra year to keep the AAV down and only getting compensated with a 5th round pick.

I would understand more if we were talking about a 3rd round pick. But a 5th round pick is a long shot to ever contribute anything to the organization. Just a strange deal if you ask me.

Yes, I'm sure in 2034 when Raddysh is 39, Toronto will be sending a thank you card to Tampa for allowing them to be on the hook for 8.5 million.
 
I predicted that Radish would go to Toronto on a huge overpayment. That's a lot of money on a D who put up 70pts once in his career. Season high prior to that was 37pts. And his lone 70pt season is playing on a roster with a Hart trophy winner Kucherov. Whether or not he can put up 70 pts on a yearly basis is yet to be seen.

Is he a proven #1D? No as he's never been a #1D but we will find out.
 
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I just can't wrap my head around Tampa signing the player to an 8-year extension to benefit a division rival with the extra year to keep the AAV down and only getting compensated with a 5th round pick.

I would understand more if we were talking about a 3rd round pick. But a 5th round pick is a long shot to ever contribute anything to the organization. Just a strange deal if you ask me.
Tampa probably preferred he sign for an additional year because by the time that 8th season rolls around he’s gonna be such a boat anchor on their blue line and even with a rising cap no one is gonna be interested.
 
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Yes, I'm sure in 2034 when Raddysh is 39, Toronto will be sending a thank you card to Tampa for allowing them to be on the hook for 8.5 million.

I'm sure in 2034 when the cap is much higher that Raddysh is either going to be on another team, on LTIR, or playing well relative to his cap hit.
 
Terrible contract for a 31yr old player with only one elite season. This will age like milk.
The cap is going to 123M after next season, that's just under 7% of the cap.

His 8.5M deal after next season, would be the equivalent of 6.65M today

I think we'll be fine. I think we're just used to seeing 8M as such a big number, but with how much the cap is going up it's kind of a normal/mid top 4D contract.
 
I predicted that Radish would go to Toronto on a huge overpayment. That's a lot of money on a D who put up 70pts once in his career. Season high prior to that was 37pts. And his lone 70pt season is playing on a roster with a Hart trophy winner Kucherov. Whether or not he can put up 70 pts on a yearly basis is yet to be seen.
50+ points is fine for $8.5M if they're not bad defensively.
 
How much did Vegas pay Marner and for how long?
At the time 28 year old superstar and elite player with a track record for producing points and playing elite defensively as a forward, and the guy who helped lead them to the Stanley Cup final and would have won the Conn Smyth if Vegas won the cup. That guy? Is that the guy you’re referring to?
 
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I predicted that Radish would go to Toronto on a huge overpayment. That's a lot of money on a D who put up 70pts once in his career. Season high prior to that was 37pts. And his lone 70pt season is playing on a roster with a Hart trophy winner Kucherov. Whether or not he can put up 70 pts on a yearly basis is yet to be seen.
if 70 points is what teams were expecting, he would be getting 12+

50+ points would be fantastic, and would make the contract look like more than fair value
 
So a player out performs all of their previous seasons in their upcoming UFA season and is signed to a long contract while entering their 30s. Hope it works for the Leafs, but this may age very badly like many have in the past.
 
At the time 28 year old superstar and legal player with a track record for producing points and playing elite defensively as a forward, and the guy who helped lead them to the Stanley Cup and would have won the Conn Smyth if Vegas won the cup. That guy? Is that the guy you’re referring to?

That wasnt the argument. The argument was why would you give that money and term to a 30 year old

Marner is one year younger
 
Can you remind us what your opinion was on the Marchand signing? Your team was signing him to a 6 year deal at about the age that Raddysh's contract is expiring. And even if the last 2 years are "negative value" (which almost every long term UFA contract is), with the contract front loaded the Leaf's will likely be able to move him if necessary. And if not - it's unlikely this contract would be crippling with something like $130M cap and the Leafs likely in a rebuilding part of the teams lifecycle.

Loved the Marchand signing because Panthers are in a win mode now with true Stanley Cup potential. I don't believe the Maple Leafs as built have ANY chance at the Stanley Cup and should be rebuilding. This just slows down the rebuild for them.

Marchand is always amazing in the playoffs too, vs Raddysh who has been terrible in them.
 
So you still cant put into actual words why he was bad. Great analysis from you.
He wasn't bad but he absolutely was the beneficiary of getting prime PP time with Hedman out. Before him it was Sergachev.

He's still a valuable piece, great shot from the point and can play a lot of minutes. Just don't expect him to be a 20G - 70 point guy in Toronto.

Kucherov is probably the best playmaker in the entire league, IQ/Passing/Drawing defensive attention, we don't really have that. We have some strong forwards, but mostly shoot first guys and no one as creative/dynamic as Kucherov.

I'm expecting around 50-55 points, nothing wrong with that. But if people are expecting a near PPG defender I think they're gonna be disappointed.

But big hole filled, got a top 4 PMD that can play a lot of minutes, right shot, and PP1 QB
 
Telling that TB didn't want to pay him 7.5-8M to keep him in town despite the huge role he played for them and the thin d group they have.

Chakya certainly isn't shy to put his stamp on the roster. Im pretty happy with what he's done so far, as a Habs fan.
Or is it telling that the best UFA Dman think TBL is aging out
 
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That wasnt the argument. The argument was why would you give that money and term to a 30 year old

Marner is one year younger
It's more than a year. Raddysh will turn 31 in Feb and Marner will still be 29 for the whole regular season. Plus signed the contract a year at 28. That's a big difference, esp when one has a track record of success and the other one outlier season and older.
 

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