Confirmed Trade: [TOR/STL/MIN] O'Reilly, Acciari, Pillar to TOR; Abramov, Gaudette, ‘23 1st, ‘23 3rd, ‘24 2nd to STL; ‘25 4th to MIN

[Taylorst]

I can't even understand how cringey this is...

You want to beat your chest about winning one hypothetical round....Even if Tor does beat Tampa but falters and loses badly or embarassingly in the 2nd round, i don't think much will change about the narrative.

Looking at Toronto they have tons of skill and depth hopefully there past experiences has taught them a good lesson.

I like this move it gives them a legitimate number 1 center and most teams that make it to the final have 4 complete lines and depth at center

 

[34]

Nope, 8 years in Toronto and mcd comes to where he always wanted to be....toronto..

I would say McDavid 100% is coming home to Toronto in 3 years when he is a UFA. I would put money on it.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Looking at Toronto they have tons of skill and depth hopefully there past experiences has taught them a good lesson.

I like this move it gives them a legitimate number 1 center and most teams that make it to the final have 4 complete lines and depth at center

It’s a good trade and good value for them, anyone dumping on it is doing so because it’s the leafs

And I’d actually like to see them breakthrough and go ona run, as long as it doesn’t impact my team

Just responding to a very strange post…

 

[34]

Looking at Toronto they have tons of skill and depth hopefully there past experiences has taught them a good lesson.

I like this move it gives them a legitimate number 1 center and most teams that make it to the final have 4 complete lines and depth at center

Are you trying to say that Matthews and Tavares are not #1 C’s???

 

[Fainting Couch]

When we are the most obnoxious you've ever seen in a few months after beating Tampa, I want people to remember how many first round "jokes" were in this thread. We are very overdue for shoving those jokes back down people's throats.

Got help y'all if we actually get within a sniff of the cup or even win it

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This is a fine move, but Dubas has done this before to no avail. He did acquire Muzzin a few years ago, a SC winner himself, but that did not move the needle. I am concerned that Dubas is counting on a core that just doesn't have "it". O'Reilly can have another great effort in the first round, but it's still up to the core 4 to carry this team.

Dubas has made moves but he's never done THIS

 

[KevinRedkey]

He bet his career on Murray, even though Samsonov has played more and has been solid? How does that even make sense? That's also ignoring the fact that he'd get hired pretty quickly by another team if he's canned.

And how is this trade desperate exactly? Contending teams always trade picks for players at the deadline, how is this now a problem? Some of you are so desperate.

He did put all his marbles into Murray though. Samsonov was made available after he traded for Murray. He's lucky Washington let him go. Otherwise the tandem was supposed to be Murray-Kallgren.

That said, I don't think this move was necessarily desperate.

 

[Burke the Legend]

He did put all his marbles into Murray though. Samsonov was made available after he traded for Murray. He's lucky Washington let him go. Otherwise the tandem was supposed to be Murray-Kallgren.

That said, I don't think this move was necessarily desperate.

Of course it’s desperate, Dubas and maybe Shanahan too are gone if there’s another r1 exit.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

He did put all his marbles into Murray though. Samsonov was made available after he traded for Murray. He's lucky Washington let him go. Otherwise the tandem was supposed to be Murray-Kallgren.

That said, I don't think this move was necessarily desperate.

I mean if Samsonov didn't work out he likely would have gotten another goalie at some point during the summer. Don't think I am going out on a limb on that one.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He did put all his marbles into Murray though. Samsonov was made available after he traded for Murray. He's lucky Washington let him go. Otherwise the tandem was supposed to be Murray-Kallgren.

That said, I don't think this move was necessarily desperate.

The tandem was never going to be Murray and Kallgren

 

[HockeyVirus]

I can't even understand how cringey this is...

You want to beat your chest about winning one hypothetical round....Even if Tor does beat Tampa but falters and loses badly or embarassingly in the 2nd round, i don't think much will change about the narrative.

Honestly, I don't care about the approval of other fans because they won't ever give credit anyways. We all know Boston is incredible this year, a historic team. Leafs being good enough to win the cup in some years but losing a tough series to them in round 2 is what it is. Other fans will ignore the context and just highlight they lost, but at least they will shut up with the round 1 jokes

 

[Arthur Morgan]

He did put all his marbles into Murray though. Samsonov was made available after he traded for Murray. He's lucky Washington let him go. Otherwise the tandem was supposed to be Murray-Kallgren.

That said, I don't think this move was necessarily desperate.

Kallgren was only up because Woll was injured but yeah getting Samsonov was lucky. Murray hasnt been that bad either. he started to come down to earth a little in his last few starts but for the most part he was better than expected. but still injured just as much as expected

 

[KevinRedkey]

I mean if Samsonov didn't work out he likely would have gotten another goalie at some point during the summer. Don't think I am going out on a limb on that one.

How many goalies have been trade since, despite other teams needing goalies? Cam Talbot I guess? It's slim pickings given the Leafs cap. Samsonov fell into their lap and without him they'd be screwed.

 

[PocketNines]

Not sure where you got your info about draft picks owned but you're very wrong.

What are you talking about? Source: capfriendly Toronto Maple Leafs Salary Cap, Draft Picks, and Player Contracts - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps that's where I got my info about your picks.

Your first this year is now with us for ROR, your second is with Seattle for Giordano, and you also gave us one of your thirds (Ottawa's). I did say "next year" but I did mean "next draft" and in case that wasn't clear I said the 2024 1st could be the main piece coming back. So hardly "very wrong."

Next year you have your first – as I said – but you've given us your second for ROR and your third to Seattle for Giordano.

In 2025 you don't have your second because you spent it on Ryan Dzingel last year. Now Arizona might give let you keep this pick or they might take this year's third. I don't know if they've made their choice. But let's say you still have the 2025 second round pick. We have zero interest in this pick as the headline asset in return for Barbashev.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

How many goalies have been trade since, despite other teams needing goalies? Cam Talbot I guess? It's slim pickings given the Leafs cap. Samsonov fell into their lap and without him they'd be screwed.

I mean they could have signed another one. I am not saying it would have been as good as what Samsonov turned out to be, but they were never going into the season with Murray/Kalgren as the top 2 on paper.

 

[KevinRedkey]

I would say McDavid 100% is coming home to Toronto in 3 years when he is a UFA. I would put money on it.

Ill take that bet lol

 

[JoeSakic13]

Maybe you should


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I think I got right.

I dunno man, that phonetic spelling is a bit sus. What’s your source?

 

[Taylorst]

It’s a good trade and good value for them, anyone dumping on it is doing so because it’s the leafs

And I’d actually like to see them breakthrough and go ona run, as long as it doesn’t impact my team

Just responding to a very strange post…

I agree it's a very good trade. I know people dump on Toronto for their past early exit but they have a solid skillful team and this move I strongly believe it makes them dangerous

 

[RunItBackAgain]

What are you talking about? Source: capfriendly Toronto Maple Leafs Salary Cap, Draft Picks, and Player Contracts - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps that's where I got my info about your picks.

Your first this year is now with us for ROR, your second is with Seattle for Giordano, and you also gave us one of your thirds (Ottawa's).

Next year you have your first – as I said – but you've given us your second for ROR and your third to Seattle for Giordano.

In 2025 you don't have your second because you spent it on Ryan Dzingel last year. Now Arizona might give let you keep this pick or they might take this year's third. I don't know if they've made their choice. But let's say you still have the 2025 second round pick. We have zero interest in this pick as the headline asset in return for Barbashev.

"The reported price is two seconds for Barbashev which is reasonable and the Leafs have none of those until 2026 and no first next year."

We have our second in 2025 until Zona decides to give up the 2023 3rd, you said until 2026. And we have our first next year and in 2025 and beyond. Wrong twice.

 

[Taylorst]

Are you trying to say that Matthews and Tavares are not #1 C’s???

No that's not what I said or implied. You need depth at your center to make a serious run this gives them a bona-fide number 1 center who can slot anywhere in the lineup or if Matthew or Tavares get hurt or whatever the team needs he definitely gives them great options and other teams will be hard trying to defend because of having 3 number 1 centers.

 

[PocketNines]

"The reported price is two seconds for Barbashev which is reasonable and the Leafs have none of those until 2026 and no first next year."

We have our second in 2025 until Zona decides to give up the 2023 3rd, you said until 2026. And we have our first next year and in 2025 and beyond. Wrong twice.

What kind of response is this to what I wrote? I meant "next draft" instead of next year by mistake, or what did you think when I said 2024 1st could come back as the return? Didn't that seem odd? And I literally addressed in my response the Arizona issue. Terrible reply.

 

[RunItBackAgain]

What kind of response is this to what I wrote? I meant "next draft" instead of next year by mistake, or what did you think when I said 2024 1st could come back as the return? Didn't that seem odd? And I literally addressed in my response the Arizona issue. Terrible reply.

But thats not what you said. Just take the L bro.

 

[PocketNines]

But thats not what you said. Just take the L bro.

Yes I admitted I misspoke writing "year" rather than "draft." I said so. Did you acknowledge I said so? I am accountable to have slipped a word. But in any event you didn't say I was "wrong" you said "very wrong" so you picked a bad adjective. Take the L on that bro

Can you admit that I also wrote "2024 1st" which would be impossible if I actually thought you didn't have it next year? I miswrote one word, not misunderstood your draft situation.

Can you further admit that you totally ignored what I said about the Arizona pick? Because you did ignore that.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Everyone I've spoken to today is buzzing about this trade whether it's a good one or not...ppl are pumped.

 

[Zur En Arrh]

When we are the most obnoxious you've ever seen in a few months after beating Tampa, I want people to remember how many first round "jokes" were in this thread. We are very overdue for shoving those jokes back down people's throats.

Got help y'all if we actually get within a sniff of the cup or even win it

when we do (this year) it's gonna make last summer's Auston is not a 50 goal/he's only a 70 point player oops he scored sixty/won the pearson/hart look like child's play. Can't wait..

Ill take that bet lol

go find Tavares ufa threads and reconsider. Some of those posters never recovered credibility. Go look at that draft lottery face again..hes coming home