Confirmed with Link: TOR sign G Ilya Samsonov to 1 year, 1.8M deal

[Ianturnedbull]

I watched this highlight pack and got a bit scared. A lot of net swimming and being way out position in some plays. I hope he can find his game this year.

 

[Mess]

24 game difference... must be a motive here to not use something like /60

Strange !!

Here there is a +24 game difference between Mrazek and Samsonov and it bothers you, but in the Murray thread where he played 20 and Campbell 49 and there is a +29 game difference it doesn't seem to bother you at all when others make direct GSAx comparisons,

.. must be a motive here

 

[Dekes For Days]

Strange !!

Here there is a +24 game difference between Mrazek and Samsonov and it bothers you, but in the Murray thread where he played 20 and Campbell 49 and there is a +29 game difference it doesn't seem to bother you at all when others make direct GSAx comparisons,

.. must be a motive here

When we look at per-60 results in a Murray vs. Campbell comparison, it doesn't change the conclusion that Murray performed better. Murray had a +0.163 per 60, compared to Campbell's -0.049.

When we look at per-60 results in a Mrazek vs. Samsonov comparison, we arrive at a completely different conclusion than the one you attempted to spread. Samsonov performed better with his -0.307 compared to Mrazek's -0.668.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I watched this highlight pack and got a bit scared. A lot net swimming and being way out position in some plays. I hope he can find his game this year.

Wow! Highlights, but he looks fantastic!

 

[Holymakinaw]

I watched this highlight pack and got a bit scared. A lot net swimming and being way out position in some plays. I hope he can find his game this year.

You're right to be scared. Both Murray and Samsanov are not very good.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Wow! Highlights, but he looks fantastic!

Watch the highlights again.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Watch the highlights again.

I intend to. He looks great!

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Strange !!

Here there is a +24 game difference between Mrazek and Samsonov and it bothers you, but in the Murray thread where he played 20 and Campbell 49 and there is a +29 game difference it doesn't seem to bother you at all when others make direct GSAx comparisons,

.. must be a motive here

I'll defer to the expert on matters of "motive" when posting on the Leafs board...you're no stranger to selective stat usage lol.

 

[notbias]

Strange !!

Here there is a +24 game difference between Mrazek and Samsonov and it bothers you, but in the Murray thread where he played 20 and Campbell 49 and there is a +29 game difference it doesn't seem to bother you at all when others make direct GSAx comparisons,

.. must be a motive here

Use GSAx/60 for them too, pretty sure Murray comes out ahead still.

/60 is a much better indicator when there is a gap in GP.

I just looked, Murray is positive, Campbell is negative, what's the issue?

 

[Ianturnedbull]

I intend to. He looks great!

He looks like Mrazek's understudy to me.

 

[WTFMAN99]

He moves a little too much sometimes.

If he can reign it in a bit, he should see improvement in his numbers.

 

[ACC1224]

I watched this highlight pack and got a bit scared. A lot of net swimming and being way out position in some plays. I hope he can find his game this year.

Jesus that second sequence vs Buffalo he almost slides himself into the corner

 

[leafsfan5]

I watched this highlight pack and got a bit scared. A lot net swimming and being way out position in some plays. I hope he can find his game this year.

I'm not too high on him tbh. He has sky-high potential if he can develop good fundamentals, but our goaltending system hasn't shown we can do anything with goalies.

Would love if we could get lucky in net for once. Have him find his game here and be the goalie people thought. Would land us a star 1G

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I'm not too high on him tbh. He has sky-high potential if he can develop good fundamentals, but our goaltending system hasn't shown we can do anything with goalies.

Would love if we could get lucky in net for once. Have him find his game here and be the goalie people thought. Would land us a star 1G

Yeah he's either going to be loved or hated. He's an insane athlete with size and draft pedigree, but his rebound control and ability to read the play are big issues. Most goalies his age don't magically learn fundamentals, but maybe we'll get lucky.

He's kind of like Mrazek stylistically, except Mrazek had a track record of success in the NHL and the Leafs brought in Carolina's defense coach to make him as comfortable as possible. At least this is a much cheaper bet

 

[JT AM da real deal]

I'm not too high on him tbh. He has sky-high potential if he can develop good fundamentals, but our goaltending system hasn't shown we can do anything with goalies.

Would love if we could get lucky in net for once. Have him find his game here and be the goalie people thought. Would land us a star 1G

You can't teach size and athlecism .. between him and Woll we now have 2 bigger tenders with great 1 on 1 abilities .. but bottom line can one of them learn how to play angles and learn proper positioning????????????????? .. I don't have da answer for that one but I'd rather have 2 guys in system .. Murray is a total angles and positioning tender who has slowed down due to injuries but he has ability to make 10 bellers in playoffs which is what we need .. a tender who has already won da big game .. between da 3 of them we need 1 guy to emerge .. but agree we need new thinking and coaching and tender development .. Jon Elkin is one of best positional tender instructors in GTA .. I hope he is more involved this season as he is one of few guys i think who can do it

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I'm not too high on him tbh. He has sky-high potential if he can develop good fundamentals, but our goaltending system hasn't shown we can do anything with goalies.

Would love if we could get lucky in net for once. Have him find his game here and be the goalie people thought. Would land us a star 1G

This has been the case but the Leafs did just overhaul the entire goaltending department. Doesn't mean they will fix Murray and Samsonov but anything is better than the garbage we've had over the past 30 years. Insane that we haven't developed a goalie capable of winning in the playoffs since Potvin.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

I watched this highlight pack and got a bit scared. A lot of net swimming and being way out position in some plays. I hope he can find his game this year.

These highlights packs usually only show amazing saves on desperation chances , which is what you see here. Most of these highlights showed breakaway dekes, backdoor plays, onetimer and rebound saves. They don't tend to show routine stops and positional play.

If you want to see goalies overall positional play, you gotta watch isolation videos like this one.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

These highlights packs usually only show amazing saves on desperation chances , which is what you see here. Most of these highlights showed breakaway dekes, backdoor plays, onetimer and rebound saves. They don't tend to show routine stops and positional play.

If you want to see goalies overall positional play, you gotta watch isolation videos like this one.

Neither tell the whole story. That's ok. Let's see what he has when the season starts. We'll all know the real Samsonov after 4 or 5 starts.

 

[Gallagbi]

Strange !!

Here there is a +24 game difference between Mrazek and Samsonov and it bothers you, but in the Murray thread where he played 20 and Campbell 49 and there is a +29 game difference it doesn't seem to bother you at all when others make direct GSAx comparisons,

.. must be a motive here

Whats Murray v. Campbell's per 60 GSAX?

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Neither tell the whole story. That's ok. Let's see what he has when the season starts. We'll all know the real Samsonov after 4 or 5 starts.

No of course not but the example I gave at least shows things like edge work, stance, lateral movement, positioning, tracking, rebound control etc to give people an idea of how a goalie plays. Highlight packs tend to only show one thing and that's athleticism, since they mostly only show desperation saves.

 

[LeafChief]

These highlights packs usually only show amazing saves on desperation chances , which is what you see here. Most of these highlights showed breakaway dekes, backdoor plays, onetimer and rebound saves. They don't tend to show routine stops and positional play.

If you want to see goalies overall positional play, you gotta watch isolation videos like this one.

This is very cool and gives a perspective you don't really see in a game unless you're solely focused on the goalie.

Thanks for posting!

 

[Ianturnedbull]

No of course not but the example I gave at least shows things like edge work, stance, lateral movement, positioning, tracking, rebound control etc to give people an idea of how a goalie plays. Highlight packs tend to only show one thing and that's athleticism, since they mostly only show desperation saves.

Ok, but you could make the same video for Campbell. Campbell might show the same attributes, but eventually he tries a costly stick check.

 

[Leaf Fans]

He looks like Mrazek's understudy to me.

Ok

 

[saltming]

I'm not too high on him tbh. He has sky-high potential if he can develop good fundamentals, but our goaltending system hasn't shown we can do anything with goalies.

Would love if we could get lucky in net for once. Have him find his game here and be the goalie people thought. Would land us a star 1G

We have a new goaltending system

 

[saltming]

These highlights packs usually only show amazing saves on desperation chances , which is what you see here. Most of these highlights showed breakaway dekes, backdoor plays, onetimer and rebound saves. They don't tend to show routine stops and positional play.

If you want to see goalies overall positional play, you gotta watch isolation videos like this one.

He tracks the puck well!