Berube was already asked, and he says he likes Laughton as a center. Domi has really struggled at center, so it will be Laughton at C, with Domi moving back to the wing.
Confirmed Trade: [TOR/PHI] Scott Laughton (50% retained), 4th round pick, 6th round pick for Nikita Grebenkin, cond. 2027 1st round pick
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HockeyVirus
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One last time? All the players they got have term lol
That's why it's better than what people are saying. We have two years worth of value from both the players we traded for. It's no rental if it was we would not have giving up so much
This implies that the players have value, though. If they're net negatives with their contracts, then them having term is not a positive, but a negative. Especially important with Marner signing coming up, too.
GirardSpinorama
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I know hes really underpaid but hes not a difference maker to add at a deadline for a premium asset.
Keep in mind it's a 2027 1st, and he was a 2nd priority. The first priority was top 4 rd, which ended up being Carlo. It's clear they were saving cap room for Carlo. Laughton was what we could afford for 1.5 m left in cap savings. I don't mind it with that in mind. Filling 2nd pair RD was more important. We're also getting picks back as well.
Is it worth it to blow so many assets to save a couple of million in cap space for a 2 year contract? They did it with McCabe and now both these deadline trades. Should have just traded one of their high cap players and would be in much better shape. Worst part is that they would have gotten a haul for Marner or Nylander 2 years ago or even this year. Being so loyal to players of a team that has done nothing in the playoffs is so backwards.
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I'm not sure if Laughton is a long term 3c here. Might have to force it for this playoffs and address it properly in the offseason.
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Who is Grebenkin? What is his projection as a prospect? (Normal people projection, not Toronto homer projection)
I find Toronto's trade deadline annoying, because I think they added good pieces for playoff hockey. I can't really comment on whether what they paid for the acquisitions makes sense, but I think they went down the right direction.
I find Toronto's trade deadline annoying, because I think they added good pieces for playoff hockey. I can't really comment on whether what they paid for the acquisitions makes sense, but I think they went down the right direction.
I agree. But at only $1.5M, he is a positive value for the Leafs on either the 3rd or 4th lines, for the next 2 seasons, C or W.
Especially if he is getting PK time. He had led the Flyers in PK time for forwards each of the last 4 seasons, and has scored at a good clip during that time. His f/o draws are below average against the best the league has to offer on their own PPs, but reasonable. He should slot into the top 4 forwards pretty easily, with no detrimental impact to shift planning. Whomever should take a rest.
He is not a 3C. He is a fringe 4th liner.
Looks like Treliving was drunk at the trade deadline.
IronMarshal
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Obviously you know nothing about Scott Laughton. He is a valuable depth player on any team, and the Leafs have him for 1.5 for two years. Good deal for both teams.
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It is the same as it was before the trade. Grebenkin is a hard working talented player probably will fit in as a top 9 player, but he is still young. The good thing is that the prospects will be developing and getting better while the veterans will start declining. Which is the point of these trades, but if the veterans don't work for the Leafs the rookies will be promising players for years to come.
Of all the comparisons I have read, I think Tyler Bertuzzi is the best one as a ceiling.
He is an extremely entertaining player, although has huge warts as he is not a good skater nor defensive player.
Very good energy 4th liner that can actually make a difference without costing you on the defensive side. He brings a lot of energy and toughness. And very good 4th liners might get over looked but a guy like Mathieu Oliver has been a difference maker. I don't want to compare him to Oliver though, Grebs is his own player. So I'd say like a good 4th liner with potential to be a 10-15 goal, physical 3rd liner. Defintley bottom 6 though imo.
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I think Grebenkin is gonna be a Knies lite. He's physical, skilled, awkward stride but rapid, and a shit disturber.
Can’t skate as well, much worse defensively.
Tyler Bertuzzi is the best comparison I think
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He's a better skater than Bertuzzi. Look his stride is clunky, but he can play with speed.
Obviously, Laughton was seemingly the best centre they could get. The haul for Brock Nelson was huge, Brayden Schenn & Ryan O'Reilly didn't want to go. Cozens/Norris weren't going to work from a cap or asset standpoint, and even Coyle, the Leafs didn't really have a Mittelstadt-comparable to move.
While I'm far from happy about the fact that they gave up a 1st round pick in this deal, there is at least some logic in the totality of the Leafs deadline this year.
There's a massive amount of new money in the system next year. It's going to mean that acquiring players via free agency is going to be extremely expensive and competitive unlike we have seen in many years past.
The Leafs have $27.5m in space with 7 forwards, 7 defencemen, and 2 goalies signed. Figure Knies and Tavares at $13m between them; leaves you with $14m for 4 forwards.
With Laughton in, you at the very least have a top 9 LW, meaning your left side is set with Knies-McMann-Laughton. Maybe Marner goes and you sign Sam Bennett for $8.5m. Maybe Marner stays (in which case Laughton probably has to be a centre).
Getting 2 players with good term was pretty integral for this team. Would it have been better to do so with a 2nd and 3rd, saving the premium asset so that you have something to shop with next year? obviously.
Would it have been better to keep Grebenkin who could potentially fill a role similar to Holmberg at ELC-money? obviously... but the Leafs need to get away a bit from the concept of filling the bottom of the team with sub-$1m guys every year. The quality of those guys, especially if not ELC players, is going to fall as teams have all this extra cap space.
