Confirmed Trade: [TOR/PHI] Scott Laughton (50% retained), 4th round pick, 6th round pick for Nikita Grebenkin, cond. 2027 1st round pick

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Neither one of those guys are primarily centres so it's a weird question. Both are much more effective on the wing where defense matters less.
Berube was already asked, and he says he likes Laughton as a center. Domi has really struggled at center, so it will be Laughton at C, with Domi moving back to the wing.
 
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That's why it's better than what people are saying. We have two years worth of value from both the players we traded for. It's no rental if it was we would not have giving up so much
This implies that the players have value, though. If they're net negatives with their contracts, then them having term is not a positive, but a negative. Especially important with Marner signing coming up, too.
 
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I know hes really underpaid but hes not a difference maker to add at a deadline for a premium asset.
Keep in mind it's a 2027 1st, and he was a 2nd priority. The first priority was top 4 rd, which ended up being Carlo. It's clear they were saving cap room for Carlo. Laughton was what we could afford for 1.5 m left in cap savings. I don't mind it with that in mind. Filling 2nd pair RD was more important. We're also getting picks back as well.
 
That's why it's better than what people are saying. We have two years worth of value from both the players we traded for. It's no rental if it was we would not have giving up so much

Is it worth it to blow so many assets to save a couple of million in cap space for a 2 year contract? They did it with McCabe and now both these deadline trades. Should have just traded one of their high cap players and would be in much better shape. Worst part is that they would have gotten a haul for Marner or Nylander 2 years ago or even this year. Being so loyal to players of a team that has done nothing in the playoffs is so backwards.
 
Who is Grebenkin? What is his projection as a prospect? (Normal people projection, not Toronto homer projection)

I find Toronto's trade deadline annoying, because I think they added good pieces for playoff hockey. I can't really comment on whether what they paid for the acquisitions makes sense, but I think they went down the right direction.
 
I'm not sure if Laughton is a long term 3c here. Might have to force it for this playoffs and address it properly in the offseason.
I agree. But at only $1.5M, he is a positive value for the Leafs on either the 3rd or 4th lines, for the next 2 seasons, C or W.
Especially if he is getting PK time. He had led the Flyers in PK time for forwards each of the last 4 seasons, and has scored at a good clip during that time. His f/o draws are below average against the best the league has to offer on their own PPs, but reasonable. He should slot into the top 4 forwards pretty easily, with no detrimental impact to shift planning. Whomever should take a rest.
 
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Who is Grebenkin? What is his projection as a prospect? (Normal people projection, not Toronto homer projection)

I find Toronto's trade deadline annoying, because I think they added good pieces for playoff hockey. I can't really comment on whether what they paid for the acquisitions makes sense, but I think they went down the right direction.
It is the same as it was before the trade. Grebenkin is a hard working talented player probably will fit in as a top 9 player, but he is still young. The good thing is that the prospects will be developing and getting better while the veterans will start declining. Which is the point of these trades, but if the veterans don't work for the Leafs the rookies will be promising players for years to come.
 
Who is Grebenkin? What is his projection as a prospect? (Normal people projection, not Toronto homer projection)

I find Toronto's trade deadline annoying, because I think they added good pieces for playoff hockey. I can't really comment on whether what they paid for the acquisitions makes sense, but I think they went down the right direction.
Of all the comparisons I have read, I think Tyler Bertuzzi is the best one as a ceiling.

He is an extremely entertaining player, although has huge warts as he is not a good skater nor defensive player.
 
Who is Grebenkin? What is his projection as a prospect? (Normal people projection, not Toronto homer projection)

I find Toronto's trade deadline annoying, because I think they added good pieces for playoff hockey. I can't really comment on whether what they paid for the acquisitions makes sense, but I think they went down the right direction.
Very good energy 4th liner that can actually make a difference without costing you on the defensive side. He brings a lot of energy and toughness. And very good 4th liners might get over looked but a guy like Mathieu Oliver has been a difference maker. I don't want to compare him to Oliver though, Grebs is his own player. So I'd say like a good 4th liner with potential to be a 10-15 goal, physical 3rd liner. Defintley bottom 6 though imo.
 
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