Confirmed with Link: [TOR/OTT] Matt Murray (25% retention), a 3rd in 2023 and a 7th in 2024 for Future Considerations.

[JKG33]

I said I don't like Murray, I am not changing my stance on it until I am proven wrong, but the goalies you listed are a lot of average goalies, and some I'd rather pass over for Woll being given a shot.

I'd love to have average when the alternative is Murray

 

[Jmo89]

You're missing the part where Gustafson won't amount to much and Talbot is significantly better than Murray, and I don't even like Talbot.

You're also missing the part where our boy Dubas was the sucker to take that contract for only a 3rd

I think Murray has the potential to be alot better than Talbot and I like that he's actually had success in the playoffs. But you're right that the trade was horrible. Ottawa had no leverage and I would argue they got the better deal.

Even if Murray works out the trade value-wise stinks.

 

[Nineteen67]

Watch Talbot shut out the Leafs the first time they play each other.

Talbot will win the playoff series in 7 games after the Leafs were forced to play Woll in games 6&7.

 

[stealth1]

And as I said, no one can claim a $6.4 million guy with no cap room.

And reread it as many times as you need to.

There were teams that had the cap room that could have claimed him. He was so bad that even bottom feeding teams didn't want him.

 

[justashadowof]

There's also a lose-lose thing about making this sort of deal with your downtrodden underdog bitter rivals. If Ottawa's goalie outperforms Murray any head to head, it's full gloating fodder. If the Leafs have a dominant win over Ottawa with Murray winning the game, Ottawa just says they're rebuilding, the Leafs are supposed to win and something like wait and see on Murray.

 

[thewave]

There were teams that had the cap room that could have claimed him. He was so bad that even bottom feeding teams didn't want him.

That's our #1 you're talking about buster...

 

[egd27]

None of those words mean experience though - which was your beef with my initial post.

That wasn't my beef. It was that you highlighted the negatives of all the other goalies you mentioned while ignoring the negatives associated with Murray.

 

[ToneDog]

This is a horrible look for Dubas lmao. Takes Ottawas salary dump while they get a better cheaper goalie

Dirion schools Dubas. Go figure.

 

[notbias]

I am also very happy to see playoff success only matters when bad-mouthing our players, not when we are trying to hype up opposing players.

 

[rocketman588]

You may be unconsciously thinking about our goalie draft pick.

I will have no slander for the monster Jonas

 

[A1LeafNation]

There's also a lose-lose thing about making this sort of deal with your downtrodden underdog bitter rivals. If Ottawa's goalie outperforms Murray any head to head, it's full gloating fodder. If the Leafs have a dominant win over Ottawa with Murray winning the game, Ottawa just says they're rebuilding, the Leafs are supposed to win and something like wait and see on Murray.

We shouldnt be comparing ourselves to a rival...we are trying to win a cup.

 

[rocketman588]

The sens have two pretty reliable goalies and a solid prospect in sogaard.

Not too shabby

 

[egd27]

Conveniently leaves out he won back to back stanley cups as the starter

Good point, there have only been 9 injuries and one demotion to the minors since then, not 11

 

[notbias]

The sens have two pretty reliable goalies and a solid prospect in sogaard.

Not too shabby

not sure you understand what the word reliable means...

 

[ACC1224]

Believe they play Ottawa 2nd or 3rd game of the year. Should be interesting, season defining

 

[Legion34]

There's also a lose-lose thing about making this sort of deal with your downtrodden underdog bitter rivals. If Ottawa's goalie outperforms Murray any head to head, it's full gloating fodder. If the Leafs have a dominant win over Ottawa with Murray winning the game, Ottawa just says they're rebuilding, the Leafs are supposed to win and something like wait and see on Murray.

No one cares about gloating. Do you really think GMs care about fans bickering?

 

[Nineteen67]

There's also a lose-lose thing about making this sort of deal with your downtrodden underdog bitter rivals. If Ottawa's goalie outperforms Murray any head to head, it's full gloating fodder. If the Leafs have a dominant win over Ottawa with Murray winning the game, Ottawa just says they're rebuilding, the Leafs are supposed to win and something like wait and see on Murray.

Leafs are trying to win one playoff series.
Ottawa is trying to get close enough to be in the hunt for a playoff spot.

 

[Legion34]

Believe they play Ottawa 2nd or 3rd game of the year. Should be interesting, season defining

Why? Was Matthews laine season defining? Was getting beat by Carolina season defining?

 

[therealkoho]

This one will cost assets. "Future considerations" + whoever Leafs have to move out to account for his cap hit + whatever Leafs have to pay to get rid of him when he doesn't work out. Aside from the first rounder they gave up to get rid of Mrazek to make room for Murray. Lots of assets.

Crystal Ball huh?

 

[hamzarocks]

Why? Was Matthews laine season defining? Was getting beat by Carolina season defining?

The Canes one did impact our season heavily

Besides becoming the laughing stock of the hockey world for a while Dubas kept Barrie and didn't decide the make any big adds after we got embarrassed vs the Canes.

He stayed put at the deadline outside of a very minor move I'm forgetting becuase there wasn't any confidence in the 2019-2020 team which was battling for a playoff spot and was just embarrassed vs the canes

 

[Cleetus]

Why? Was Matthews laine season defining? Was getting beat by Carolina season defining?

lol think the post was sarcasm

 

[Legion34]

The Canes one did impact our season heavily

Besides becoming the laughing stock of the hockey world for a while Dubas kept Barrie and didn't decide the make any big adds after we got embarrassed vs the Canes.

He stayed put at the deadline outside of a very minor move I'm forgetting becuase there wasn't any confidence in the 2019-2020 team which was battling for a playoff spot and was just embarrassed vs the canes

I mean last year when we got beat in the Andersen return game.

People have to realize players don’t care the way fans do about stupid narratives.

 

[Doublerum1975]

Wow a lot of people can predict the future in this thread lol why don't we wait and see what happens

 

[deprw]

I don’t know about great but certainly cheaper and pretty reliable.
I don’t think many really mind Murray but more the terrible deal.

I would have anticipated that we would have gone towards Talbot. Don't know price for us though. If Kallgren would have made it for Wild. Though I don't understand why they got rid of Kahkonen, who is pretty interesting goalie prospect and would be happy to have him. Rather than Gustavsson, that is off course Wild's problem.

We'll see next year how this ends up. Murray has higher ceiling, but like said Talbot is more reliable. Oilers fans were pretty happy when they got rid of him, so he isn't any star.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Amount the negative side effects about this Murray trade is that it has awakened The Winter Soiled Diaper over at the Isles boards.

Also known as the closet leafs obsessed fan.

You are just as obsessed with Oilers and Islanders fan bases as they are with us.