Confirmed with Link: [TOR/OTT] Matt Murray (25% retention), a 3rd in 2023 and a 7th in 2024 for Future Considerations.

[Cleetus]

We're crapping on kyle dubas not so much Matt.

And honestly deservedly so.

I like Murray, he is from my Hometown, I think he may bounce back, but this Trade is just awful......

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Okay, even if you are one of the few who actually likes this trade...

Had Murray been a free agent, and the Leafs signed him to a 2-year deal at $4.7 per year, how many actually call it a fair value signing than an overpayment? Especially after the season he just had.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Hard not to disagree now. kinda would like a new management to run whats next. if that means we have to tare down then we have to tare down. I feel like this move is a clear indication that Matthews last 2 years of his contract will be wasted.
still lots of time for moves but this feels like the wrong one.
I wanted to take a chance on Blackwood or something.

The next GM has an absolutely brutal job on their hands.

 

[kb]

In: Murray at 4.7 for 2 years, #38, 2023 3rd, 2024 7th
Out: Mrazek at 3.5 for 2 years, #25

Yeah this guy should be fired

3.8 not 3.5

 

[Trapper]

1. Marner
2. Matthews
3. Nylander
4. Tavares
5. Dorian

This is a list of people who bent Dubas over on negotiations

Now that Dubas is bent over he’s in the perfect position to kiss Kadri’s ***.
See how it all works out in the end. No pun intended.

 

[BallardEra]

For me Samsonov or Blackwood with Murray would be the only way I would be happy with this seasons starting goalie duo. Even then I imagine we are looking at 7/million for the two goalies rather than the 5/million I thought we would be running with either Samsonov or Blackwood with Murray.

Looks like Murray will be the 1A and Dubas is bargain shopping for the 1B. I thought most of us were okay with Murray as the 1B at 50%…this really changes the dynamics

Personally, I wouldn't bother with Samsonov.

 

[Stephen]

What Dorion is really thinking is, "We're thankful for Kyle's contributions and wish him well."

Kyle Dubas will probably have a soft landing in Ottawa if he ever needs a new gig. Like when JFJ went to Boston after flaming out here.

 

[Nylander88]

if he gets Samsonov all is forgiven

Samsonov @2.5ish seems reasonable. Murray-Samsonov could be a strong duo. A hair over 7mil invested in the crease isn't unreasonable either on a team that wants to contend. Definitely hoping Dubas can find some solid support in free agency to be a backup/1B

 

[BLONG7]

There better be more moves made. Murray cannot be the starter for next season!!...... Can he???

Are you thinking he will be the backup with a 4.7M salary?

 

[TheShape]

This is really, really bad. Solidifies what I have thought for a while now that this management group are not serious about winning, they want to win as long as it’s with their guys.

Matt Murray at even 50% retained is too much. Some connection to the soo greyhounds from 10 years ago holds no relevance today, absolute waste of cap space.

 

[Mess]

Matt Murray is now the 10th goalie Leafs have gone through since Dubas was hired according to Mark Masters on TSN. .

 

[Szymonsays]

On the plus side, if Murray sucks and we struggle to make it past 1st round then Dubas is gone.

I'm sorry but you can't keep making mistakes like this as a GM and not expect to face the consequences.

This is by far the most disappointing trade by Dubas in my opinion.

 

[Morgs]

Yeah I guess that's what happens when you make a terrible move out of desperation

Personally I think we should have spent first(s) and prospects on Gibson instead of getting a team to pay us for the guy who's been better recently. It just makes perfect sense

 

[Knies iT]

Unless we got Sanderson back this thread was always going to be a cesspool lol.

So now this trade "is not bad"?

The cost to move his contract better hurt Dorion. As much as I think a healthy Murray is a real #1 option, Ottawa has 0 leverage in this trade. 50% retained + what AZ got for Kassian as a start.

Meh, yes, yes, no, no. None of them feel like enough for essentially giving Ottawa 3M+ in cap space for the next two years though.

"Meh" for a Formenton return and no for Brannstrom yet we walk out with a 3rd and 7th.

Foligno, Kadri, 13th overall/Jarvis, Murray, Mrazek, Marchment, Ritchie.

Yeah, time to wrap it up.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

They’ll make us regret it.
Ceci fit right in
So did hyman

Both got rid of their choker tags and Hyman even had a solid playoffs for once

Yeah we can talk about the lack of strength in the Pacific division but end of the day Edmonton went further with Ceci, Barrie, and Hyman on their team in the playoffs than we have in 20 years. I've no doubt that unless the Pacific drastically improves there's a good chance the same fate will befall both teams.

 

[FlareKnight]

This has been quite a day.

 

[Shak19]

This trade sucks, should have been 50% retained. Garbage.

 

[Strangle]

Whats the cap-hit? How much cap-space we got now

$6.3 cap left, need 6 players still, I think? To ice a 23 man roster according to capfriendly

 

[saltming]

Matt Murray costs more money with retention than Marc-Andre Fleury.

Apparently there are 18 goalies in the NHL that have a higher cap hit than what we are paying for him and the expectation is that Campbell and Kuemper will get North of it too

 

[DarkKnight]

Think about the narrative all year, we couldn’t afford Campbell at what he is asking as a UFA. Then reconcile that over and over talking point with paying this guy that? Dubas just walked all over himself with this move and it speaks to sheer desperation.

 

[The Masters]

3.8 not 3.5

LoL what a horrid signing mzerek was. Dubas got lucky he ripped off davidson.

need more moves

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Personally I think we should have spent first(s) and prospects on Gibson instead of getting a team to pay us for the guy who's been better recently. It just makes perfect sense

Well I didn't want Gibson either. I just want to complain

 

[Nylander88]

We're crapping on kyle dubas not so much Matt.

And honestly deservedly so.

I get it. Honestly. I thought Dubas coulda done better. But if I'm Murray getting wind of this outrage (I'm sure he has Leaf fan friends etc word spreads) I'm not really getting the warm and fuzzies lol

 

[Trapper]

Matt Murray is now the 10th goalie Leafs have gone through since Dubas was hired according to Mark Masters on TSN. .

10th goalie and 7th attempt to win a round.
Leafs are playing the odds.
Do you feel lucky punk?

 

[Sniper99]

I'm a big Dubas fan.

This is an absolutely horrendous trade.

You poor soul. Thats not something to brag about.