Confirmed with Link: [TOR/OTT] Matt Murray (25% retention), a 3rd in 2023 and a 7th in 2024 for Future Considerations.

[Anthrax442]

 

[Tak7]

Reminder: Ottawa were willing to move their 7th overall pick last Friday, to move Murray at 50% retained to Buffalo.

To only get 25% retained, and only a 3rd, four days later, is so disappointing.

To hitch your wagon in the single most important season in recent memory, to a broken, busted, out of sorts Murray is the sort of BOOM or BUST move that costs you a job.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Murray at $4.6 with this team's tight cap situation is awful.

I mean getting goalie and a 3rd7th for nothing? Ok ... but a risky, injury prone goalie that you're counting on to have meaningful play? Woof. And then further capstrap yourself this off-season?

The bargain bin UFA's are going to be fun...

 

[rocketman588]

He can have a .1000 save% next year and this is still an insane gamble

Yes it might pay off but holy shit is this a risk

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Why not let Ottawa buy him out and get him for cheap as a UFA?

Was a 3rd and 7th worth it? Probably not

A 3rd a 7th vs like 2 million in cap space minimum

 

[ShameOnYouZidlicky]

This time next year:

Toronto trades their 1st round pick and Matt Murray to Arizona for a 4th round pick and a 7th round pick.

Then Dubas apologists will claim how brilliant the move was, like the Ritchie and Mrazek trades.

 

[DarkKnight]

25 percent retention is horrible. Can’t even believe it, assumed 50 percent a given. Wow.

 

[Bevans]

This is the kinda post you make when the pool is trying to veto your trade.

 

[Apex Predator]

The Leafs are going to miss out on Samsonov becuase they’re paying Murray now.

 

[The Masters]

Does Matt Murray have reputation of making big clutch saves in the playoffs?

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I look forward to the acceptably meh trade that Dubas makes to clean up the mess that this trade creates after another first round exit.

If this trade blows up in his face it won't be Dubas' problem to clean up.

 

[kb]

Husso 4.75
Murray 4.68

That made me feel better, actually.

 

[Rob Brown]

Reminder: Ottawa were willing to move their 7th overall pick last Friday, to move Murray at 50% retained to Buffalo.

To only get 25% retained, and only a 3rd, four days later, is so disappointing.

To hitch your wagon in the single most important season in recent memory, to a broken, busted, out of sorts Murray is the sort of BOOM or BUST move that costs you a job.

Pretty sure the Sabres deal was also 25%, and they were giving back a 1st in the teens as well.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

At 50% retained, you could have grabbed a tandem goalie and used the extra space to upgrade the team.

Murray at 4.7M puts the squeeze on the cap again.

Exactly. Now there's little cap space for a tandem. This is TOR's starter for the 22-23 season.

He blew it.

 

[FlareKnight]

Oh boy. I'm not sure what to say here. At 50% retained I could get it. There's decent value there and a chance that he does really put it together. But only 25% and that's the best they could get? Dubas couldn't even get a second round pick?

Again, Murray could come through. But regardless it's just bad value. Should have been able to get a better retention on the contract than that. At this point it really would have been better to just open the doors for Campbell. Not saving much money by taking on Murray here.

I was ready to give Dubas a shot with this one. There was logic to it. But it had to be a good trade and it just isn't.

 

[The Podium]

Even if Murray wins the Smythe and Vezina, this can’t be looked at as a good trade.

Dubas had all the power here and Ottawa was offering more to another divisional rival.

 

[99ovr]

As a Sens fan that loves to see Leafs land implode, in all seriousness when Murray is on his game and healthy, he is absolutely an elite goalie and worth every penny of that 6m+ contract.

Only issue is his confidence is real shaky and he's had concussion issues for the past year so there is some risk but this can legitimately be a good deal for you guys

 

[BlueSeal]

Murray might be their missing piece.

Two-time back-to-back Stanley Cup champion and has been the starter to a Cup. His regular-season stats are whatever but his playoff stats show he's a reliable campaigner and that's exactly what the Leafs need. He's gone the distance before and knows what it takes. If the team doesn't fall apart in front of him, they're going to go deep. Strengthen the blueline at this point and see where the team takes you.

Their GM is betting heavy on this because I think this is the end of the road for him if it fails and I'm pretty optimistic about the Leafs chances with Murray.

 

[Canada4Gold]

I was ok stomaching Mrazek for Murray retained so the money was equal and somehow we paid more to get rid of Mrazek than we got for a more expensive like what the hell?

 

[Bellefour20]

I leave to clean my bathtub with comet, being careful to not get it in my eyes. Seeing this trade, I wish it had.

 

[BallardEra]

Father is dancing around the house. He says by next spring people will be calling this an outright steal of the century by Dubas!!

 

[DueDiligence]

This better be 50% with Pinto coming back.

Not quite!

 

[BertCorbeau]

If you go by the various charts the drop from 7th to 16th is worth about 35-40 depending on the chart. An early third plus plus an early 7th is fairly close to that value so it's not nearly as bad as you think from that perspective anyway.

Yeah it's not even that for me.

It's that you have a cap-strapped team in need of two solid goalies and quality depth, and he squanders that on an injury prone goalie who hasn't had a good season in like 5 years.

 

[Auston Marlander]

I didn't. If you are not kyle's immediate family or connected to him and you defend this deal then you lose all credibility. Even if murray becomes good, this deal f***ing is horrific.

End of the day Morgs has been defending dubas (and you as well to be fair) for everything. Call a spade a f***ing spade. This deal is ass. Period.

You talk about having no credibility and then say something like, "If the player we gave nothing up for becomes good this deal is horrific.". You couldn't be less self aware if you tried.

I don't think Murray is the fix and would prefer we didn't have him, but the deal is fine since we gave up nothing. Murray can be flipped for a back alley handy and we are no worse off.

 

[Stephen]

Clearly he believes Murray can be a quality tender with a lot of games ... which is a damn scary thought.

I hate this.

I feel like Dubas has purposely made the longest bet at the most critical position to stick it to the most people. If it works it will be a victory only he can enjoy.