People saying the Point contract makes Marner overpaid don’t understand the difference of long term and bridge deals. Leafs got their star locked down long term. Point will be able to command 15 million minimum in 3 years. If Marner signed for 3 years it would have been for around the same amount but neither side was interested in a 3 year deal.
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Drytoast
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Oh well. I guess you can just try and ignore them banners then. How many cups are you subtracting from Montreal then? 17-18? I guess Boston has only won 2 cups? Chicago 3?
He was very impressive in that first Buffalo pre-season game.
He was almost Marner-like.
Wow you won the cup with 6 teams in the league, congrats. Almost as impressive as winning a Grey Cup. They couldn't even win a cup with 12 teams in the league
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Didn't Marner want 9+ on a 3 year deal.
If Point got a 3 year deal at 15 mil on his next deal, Which would be another RFA contract, he would still make less total than Marner.
This was literally never said, at any point. But he certainly isn't in for a significant raise if he wants to stay in Toronto.
To be quite honest it's not really worth getting into specifics until we see how the Season plays out.
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LOL
I was just curious if it was evident that you were going to very conveniently start the cut off at 1967.
Also curious. The last cup they won was in 93. What was that? 22 team league back then? 21? So I take it that is less relevant to that of a cup won in a 30 team NHL? Be sure to stop by their forums and let them know how irrelevant all of their cup wins and history are.
Same with Edmonton, and New York Islanders...and well basically any team who hasn't won the cup in the past what?..
Well now wait a second...
We just expanded with Vegas which means the only two relevant cup wins at this moment are truly Washington and St Louis? LOL. Washington and St Louis people! The two most "storied" franchises in the NHL!
But don't worry. Their cups become slightly irrelevant the moment Seattle joins...so I'm sure they will be thrilled to hear about that!
I love this bullshit logic! It's amazing.
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If you look at the discussion, the Cups won in the 6-team NHL were the subject of this discussion...
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If you look at the discussion, the Cups won in the 6-team NHL were the subject of this discussion...
But under the logic of that discussion I was able to extend the stupid logic to basically shit on all but 2 stanley cups at this point
So you moved the goal posts.But under the logic of that discussion I was able to extend the stupid logic to basically **** on all but 2 stanley cups at this point
Fine, carry on.
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So you moved the goal posts.
Fine, carry on.
On a discussion that moves the goal posts...
yes, indeed...carry on!
Negotiations are private those reports are just speculation. All I know is Tampa would love to have Point locked down for the next 6 years.
In fairness though, I'm willing to bet that Points long term deal after this one is till less that $11mil. Deals that like that don't get thrown around like that often outside of TO.
Point will get 11% of the cap in 3 years.
It was reported that the Leafs offered Marner 8.5 x 3.
You should stop, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Tampa Bay has a clear pattern of signing guys to bridge deals and then signing them long-term afterward. Point's just the latest guy. The only thing not predictable about this deal is HOW low the AAV is.
Point will need to command $15m to make the same amount that Marner makes in the next 6 years. ...And Point's only making 15m if the cap goes to like 140... So, no, he's not going to make 15. He's going to make 11% of whatever the cap is, just like Stamkos, just like Kucherov, just like Vasilevskiy. Hedman, I believe, was slightly under 11.
I'd probably lean closer to the fact the Leafs would rather have Marner on a 3yr 2o mill deal and have an extra 4 mill to throw at the D this coming offseason.
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No, they actually do understand the difference of long term bridge deals just fine. You’re the one who is misunderstanding things here and that is evidenced by the last sentence of your post.
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Marner was asking for $10M on a 3-year bridge and the Leafs were offering just under $9M on that term. In all likelihood, if they agreed on a 3-year term, they would’ve paid north of $9M.
Oh I'm sure they would have jumped at the chance to sign Point for under 7 mil for 6 years. But Point would want a lot more on a 6 year deal than that and Tampa can't afford that right now so bridge deal it is.
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Do you want to win the cup or just fill the roster ? and Liljegren has not looked good this training camp and now I know the reason LA Kings had no interest in him in the Muzzin trade
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