Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] Marner re-signs (6 years, $10.893M AAV) Part III

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They traded a 1st to have arguably the best Leafs team of the salary cap era and take a run at the cup.

Do you really think trading say one of Nylander or Marner would have been the smarter thing to do than move a late 1st? Come on now...

I'm not criticizing trading the 1st to dump Marleau, just pointing out that, as was long suggested, it was going to cost to free up the cap space required.

That being said, if Nylander could have been traded for a young blue liner and the Leafs could have saved cap space and added a piece that could have been used on their back end, then yeah, I think it might have been smarter.

However, I think that ship sailed before Nylander was signed to his current contract.
 
Some accuracy sure, not a good idea to generalise though.

I think all fan bases are similar - some fans are smart, some less smart. The Leaf fan base is the biggest so you'll get more smart fans but also more dumb fans and so it goes. We're also clearly the most hated, probably because we are biggest and that means that tons of dumb fans from the rest of the league say dumb stuff about us constantly.



Maybe nobody thought that but plenty of people were saying it. And many others were saying that even if we could sign them, we'd have to give up Kapanen or Johnsson or something along those linse. WE got out of the jam giving up just one late 1st round pick, a small price to pay for keeping all the other guys





You're completely ignoring that we got a replacement for Kadri in that trade. When you do stuff like that that clearly shows your bias. He's not as good as Kadri (today anyway) but he's younger and cheaper and acting like he doesn't exist is pretty dumb.
Yes the Leafs fanbase might be the most hated because some of your fans come across as arrogant and obnoxious. As for biggest, the Canadiens fanbase might think otherwise. Other fanbases think the Leafs have a talented, offensive team but now they have to go on the ice and prove that they can win the big one. If the Leafs happen to win the cup in the next 5 years then you can brag, boast and celebrate the win, but until then maybe try a little humility. Besides if the Leafs do win the cup one year, I'll be happy for the Leafs fans who cheered for them during the Ballad years in the 70's and early 80's.
 
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I was wondering when the spin/damage control would set in. Surprised it took this long.

I’ve noticed every new huge money contract comes with some sort of caveat that makes the player look less greedy. All damage control.

Tavares left money on the table. As did Panarin. Matthews “generously” (lol) took less term to lower the aav. McDavid took less than what was offered. And now Marner “turned down offer sheets”.

When players take contracts that big, that hurt the team, some sort of spin needs to happen to save face in front of the fans.

I knew it would happen. And here it is.

For all we know (if they really happened), the offer sheets could have been as low as the Aho offer sheet.

Anything to make these guys look less greedy.

Ahahahahanan did you just call
Him out for being a leaf fan. Come on. He is you with a different accent
 
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Leafs wanted 7 years and Marner wanted the Matthews 5 so it was always going to be a 6 year deal if both wanted to make it work.

The problem with the Matthews deal is it really a 4 year deal when you consider the likelihood of him not wanted to resign entering his last year. Gotta trade him at that point as you can't let me walk to Phoenix as a UFA. Marner will retire a Leaf.

How does Matthews Contract have anything to do with Marner signing? You really are looking for any reason to hate on the leafs and post about it. I don't get this if fans of other teams just stop talking about the leafs and focus on their own team then leafs wont be the center of hockey
 
That's not enough for some people though. Until every leaf fan is beaten into submission and admits we're completely screwed, this will never end. Even a Stanley Cup this year won't change a thing regarding this. It's like a fixation with the Leafs and other fanbases. People can't accept that our fanbase is happy with what we have. There always has to be something negative to point out.

I dont get this, all ever here leafs , leafs, i hate the leafs everyone talks about the Toronto Maple leafs but its not just leaf fan talking about it, its fans of other, Marner signing is on the 3rd thread page 18+ and no end in sight. Not because leaf fans won't stop talking about it but other fans keep talking about it
 
I dont get this, all ever here leafs , leafs, i hate the leafs everyone talks about the Toronto Maple leafs but its not just leaf fan talking about it, its fans of other, Marner signing is on the 3rd thread page 18+ and no end in sight. Not because leaf fans won't stop talking about it but other fans keep talking about it
The Maple Leafs live rent free in everyone’s head.
 
Dubas overpaid for each of the 3 big guys, a total of 5 million or so IMO. That being said that theoretically only costs them 1 good player. It should be workable
 
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Dubas overpaid for each of the 3 big guys, a total of 5 million or so IMO. That being said that theoretically only costs them 1 good player. It should be workable

I’d pretty much agree with this. And even with that, I’ve never really looked at the Matthews contract as an over payment, just as not getting enough term. For some reason that’s always the way that one hasn’t looked to me, but yeah. Still better than paying 6m for someone that doesn’t even deserve a roster spot and there are enough of those out there and the teams make it work
 
Dubas overpaid for each of the 3 big guys, a total of 5 million or so IMO. That being said that theoretically only costs them 1 good player. It should be workable

I had Matthews at 10.5, Marner at 9.5 and Nylander at 6.5 so imo combined their overpaid by about 2.8 mil, not a big deal at all, i rather overpay star players then average ones.
 
Dubas overpaid for each of the 3 big guys, a total of 5 million or so IMO. That being said that theoretically only costs them 1 good player. It should be workable
Nylander looking like a steal these past couple days.
 
Dubas overpaid for each of the 3 big guys, a total of 5 million or so IMO. That being said that theoretically only costs them 1 good player. It should be workable
No, that's not how it works.

The agents of other Leaves players will get Dubas to overpay for their clients... 500K here, 275K there, and all that will keep adding up until a third of the roster are AHL players.
 
Nylander looking like a steal these past couple days.
I wouldn’t say a steal. It’s not a bad deal if he can bounce back from the last terrible year he had.
If he can get back to being a 60 point deal it’s a slight overpayment imo but one you can live with.
If he improves beyond that then it becomes a good deal imo.
As long as he plays with more intensity when the games count and get more physical. He’s young so there’s still a good chance he can figure that out.
 
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I had Matthews at 10.5, Marner at 9.5 and Nylander at 6.5 so imo combined their overpaid by about 2.8 mil, not a big deal at all, i rather overpay star players then average ones.

I never thought about it like that. I'd agree completely that those cap hit's would have been appropriate, but the players seemed to all be "I don't worry about that stuff the agent takes care of it" aka the Leafs were never going to get a deal.

Gonna need the cap to go up though, and it will but how much. It's gonna be tight but I've been a Leafs fan a long time and it's nice to have actual "star" level players for once, glad they're all signed for years.
 
No, that's not how it works.

The agents of other Leaves players will get Dubas to overpay for their clients... 500K here, 275K there, and all that will keep adding up until a third of the roster are AHL players.

That’s not how it works either. There is not a single bad contract on the Leafs roster right now. You know what that means? Flexibility. They can make moves to stay competitive. Their core is ridiculously young and we have many years of such a strong team to look forward to.
 
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That’s not how it works either. There is not a single bad contract on the Leafs roster right now. You know what that means? Flexibility. They can make moves to stay competitive. Their core is ridiculously young and we have many years of such a strong team to look forward to.
Are people still suggesting that the Leafs have bad contracts. You'd think that by now they would have come to their senses.
 
That’s not how it works either. There is not a single bad contract on the Leafs roster right now. You know what that means? Flexibility. They can make moves to stay competitive. Their core is ridiculously young and we have many years of such a strong team to look forward to.

Not to mention we have the biggest scouting staff, science departments, and many connections to overseas players. It's not like we are all of a sudden going to start not drafting well lol we will keep the cupboard stocked.
 
All the signings and were able to improve on defense as well.

Rielly Barrie
Muzzin Ceci

Harpur
Schmaltz
Marincin
Holl
Sandin
Lilegren

That's a top 5 D right there.

Plus Kerfoot>Kadri
Spezza>Marleau

lol. That defense is brutal. Andersen will once again have to stand on his head and he will more than likely face the most amount of shots this season with many being high quality chances. Leafs fans better pray he doesn't go down or that's it. He is the heart beat of the team.
 
lol. That defense is brutal. Andersen will once again have to stand on his head and he will more than likely face the most amount of shots this season with many being high quality chances. Leafs fans better pray he doesn't go down or that's it. He is the heart beat of the team.
Possibly, but doubtful. The defense looks fine. On many teams, if the number 1 goes down, it will spell trouble. I suppose if other teams want their high quality chances they will have to fish the puck out of their net first.
 
If the Leafs end up going with a 21 man roster in order to stay under the cap what will they do when or if one of their forwards gets injured?(Assuming their lone extra guy is a 7th Dman). There is a reason teams go with a 23 man roster.
 
I had Matthews at 10.5, Marner at 9.5 and Nylander at 6.5 so imo combined their overpaid by about 2.8 mil, not a big deal at all, i rather overpay star players then average ones.

Did you also had the terms they signed for in those predictions? 8 years it had been on spot for A.M but 5, its a big difference. Marner at 8.5 for 8 had been acceptable compaired to his peers. Nylander 7x8 had been in line with his peers!

Personally if think M.M alone are overpaid by 3 m at that term, 4 m more then W.N is hilirious and then we have all the other compares around the leuage.
 
Personally if think M.M alone are overpaid by 3 m at that term, 4 m more then W.N is hilirious and then we have all the other compares around the leuage.

You actually thought a 22 year old player.........in Toronto........who scored 94 points last year(only McDavid scored more at the same age)........should only get 7.9 million a year, for 6 years?

LOL.
 
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