I mean, we cross that bridge when we come to it right? Not sure what 2k posts came before, but that isn’t really necessarily going to happen 5 years from now. It’s an impossible guess.
Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Auston Matthews signs extension with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $13.25M AAV)
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Why not? Matthews is on par with Ovechkins goal scoring through the first 7 years of his career in comparison.You can't compare Matthews to Ovechkin
You really need to look at the fact that he’s played in shortened seasons. Pace is a legitimate use of stats. In fact it’s probably superior to most other stats.
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It’s not a bad deal, but an unfortunate deal. If he signed 8 years now then the contract would be worth it for the entire deal. Not only will his cap hit not start to help the team at some point as teams usually hope for, but his age when he gets his next deal will likely with a max contract see a few good years and then a Tavares contract anchor situation.
Strictly year by year it’s not awful cap hit, it keeps the window open 4 more years. The contract by itself can’t be bad because of the cap hit that’s pretty much in line with stars, it’s how the management now deals with the other forwards. Just depends if they lose on of the core for
Last thing is, if you believe in it, contract culture. It certainly exists in some teams. Bruins had it for years, Tampa, Pens
It’s not always about taking huge discounts, but at least something of a a discount. Or at the very least not trying to clearly squeeze every penny you can get.
The team still has other stars to pay. They’re not sheep so maybe Marner and or Nylander don’t copy Matthews and sign fair value relative to term and or go straight for the long term deal at least despite their age, so the latter half their cap % will drop more over 8 years. Something.
This approach just really isn’t especially helpful to winning a cup in a league that, barring some great luck in matchups/injuries/bounces, you typically need great depth to tear through other top teams and have enough in the tank at the end to keep going. Star player is cold or injured this round? Okay he got you through the last round, now your 3rd line is popping off
As long as Matthews never says something like “all I care about is winning”
Strictly year by year it’s not awful cap hit, it keeps the window open 4 more years. The contract by itself can’t be bad because of the cap hit that’s pretty much in line with stars, it’s how the management now deals with the other forwards. Just depends if they lose on of the core for
Last thing is, if you believe in it, contract culture. It certainly exists in some teams. Bruins had it for years, Tampa, Pens
It’s not always about taking huge discounts, but at least something of a a discount. Or at the very least not trying to clearly squeeze every penny you can get.
The team still has other stars to pay. They’re not sheep so maybe Marner and or Nylander don’t copy Matthews and sign fair value relative to term and or go straight for the long term deal at least despite their age, so the latter half their cap % will drop more over 8 years. Something.
This approach just really isn’t especially helpful to winning a cup in a league that, barring some great luck in matchups/injuries/bounces, you typically need great depth to tear through other top teams and have enough in the tank at the end to keep going. Star player is cold or injured this round? Okay he got you through the last round, now your 3rd line is popping off
As long as Matthews never says something like “all I care about is winning”
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Actually that is normally the peak for star forwards it seems to me, not that they fall off a cliff until 10 years later but Wayne, Mario and many other stars, including Mats Sundin all had there highest production years before the age of 25..
What are you laughing at? He literally is the best goal scorer of the last 7 years. His gpg % is on par with Ovechkin. So what exactly doesn’t make him generational?
The fact that he hasn't accomplished anything that you would consider generational.
Favourably assuming? There is nothing favourable about using his trending rate. He didn’t bump it, he extrapolated pace. Even if he went below pace, he still ends up at or above 50 those years
Why do people continue to fight a battle they have already lost? I’ll never understand why simple math is hard for some of you.
7 seasons. .61 gpg. Generational
Queue up some "this signing was a mistake" threads after he fails to score a hat trick in each of his first five games, and the OPs of those threads taking umbridge at the fact no one is wanting to move Bedard, MacKinnon, Drai and McDavid for him.
Fans like you deserve him and his contract. Good luck.
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Matthews doesn’t get enough apples to compete with peak Ovy. His playoff numbers aren’t doing him favours either. One of the best in the game today but he’s not doing anything generational.
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He hasn't been generational in the playoffs. He has been good, but he hasn't been generational. I think he should be better.
You are going to make threads like that?
Lol looking at a season when Matthews was clearly injured. Now do the last 4 years. Or 5, or 6, or 7…
Literally the best gpg avg of the last 30 years in the first 7 years of a career. What the hell are you even talking about?
That payment structure is wild. He gets max salary, 20% of cap, based on signing now, next year, with a league minimum base salary and rest in signing bonus. Subject to Arizona taxes not Ontario.
The whole thing puts as much money as possible in AM's hands as soon as possible. Year 4 to the penny is 60% of the year one salary, as dictated by the MoU as the largest % gap start to finish for front-loading allowed. The dive in salary from year 2 to 3 is just, just, under the 25% gap allowed in difference between adjacent contract years. It's a thing of beauty accounting wise.
And why not for him and the Leafs right? Who cares how he gets it, the Leafs operating account can handle it. Use it if you got it.
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Winning a Stanley Cup with your hometown team should take priority over taxes. I'm fully aware AM isn't from TO, but MM pulls the same routine as AM. I feel like the locker room has a "f*ck you, pay me" attitude, the opposite of a winning culture.
ah, its not a mistake. Contract is par for course, not good, not bad.
Gonna need a 1st and some retention with those 4 guys though straight for AM though, thats a lot of salary. Have your guys call mine.
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It's honestly such a stupid contract. As great as Matthews is, if I'm a GM unless your name is McDavid there's 0 chance you get that money. I would rather have 2 elite players than 1 superstar. It's crazy to think that NJ has their young center duo in Hughes/Hischier for only a million more than Matthew's contract. As a GM would you rather have both Hughes & Hischier or 1 Austin Matthews?
Matthews was nowhere close to top 10 in PPG and Mackinnon never missed more than 17 games in single season. Makar was still 2nd i PPG amond D in his down season.
50 goals in 50 games. 60 goals in 72 games. .61 gpg for his career of 7 years. Highest of the last 30 years.
I believe that makes him generational. A generation is typically considered to be 20 years.
These are all objective. Now, please respond with your clearly subjective response with zero back up as to why.
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