Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Auston Matthews signs extension with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $13.25M AAV)

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When McDavid / Draisaitl get new contracts there will be no Leaf fans posting in those threads.

Many of you should make an enemy of envy. I promise you that your life will be a lot more happy.
 
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crosby signed a 12 year deal 10 years ago. Which would be over 12 million Today. Now factor in that those contracts aren’t allowed anymore, how much do you think he would sign for today? On an 8 year deal.
An 8 year deal would have almost justified the number yes. Even then it's over payment considering what Mackinnon just signed for. That's the point they're paying the premium AAV without getting the term. Every other super star is committing long term that gets that type of number. He is not.

You sure spend a lot of time talking about Auston Matthews. One might think you actually like him or something.
I like talking hockey. I am responding to the post that I was quoted in. I think it's too bad he didn't sign for 8 years given the AAV. It's not good for the league in my opinion..
 
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The problem with this contract isn’t the term. The term is good for the Leafs. Imagine if they had only signed Tavares to 4 years? They’d be much happier today.

Besides, if they don’t win in the next 4 years it’ll be time to blow it up and start over.

The problem with this contract is that the AAV is too high. Matthews is coming off a down year and yet another disappearing act in a playoff series.

12.25 would have been a much better number. He’s in between Pastrnak and MacKinnon and should be paid accordingly. And every million counts.

And honestly I think MacKinnon at 12.6 is too much, but at least you can say some of that is a thank you for winning the cup and backpay for being underpaid on his last deal. They got their championship so whatever. Matthews has delivered nothing and has never been underpaid.
There would have to be so much shit in the bed for them to blow it up in 4/5 years it’s not at all realistic. That’s when The Leafs start signing those Caps/Pens long term/who gives a crap about the last 3 years contracts to Marner, Nylander and Matthews.
 

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Yeah I'm not really getting the Leafs fans take here.

They're evidently completely OK with Matthews being the highest paid player in the league... But also apparently think his play is going to regress significantly by the time he's 30 to not command a good contract in four years.
I think 4 years was the perfect term if I am Leaf management. If this core continues to go 1 and out in the playoffs over the next 5 years then you can burn it down and start over. But if he win a couple Rockets and Harts plus they win a cup then you gladly pay him his 16 mil on the next deal.
This whole take a discount to win argument is garbage and just owner propaganda. Go into your job today and tell them you want to take a 20% cut so that the company can go out and pay more to other employees to "help" the core.
 

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A lot of players play injured, you Leafs fans act as if Matthews was the only player last season that was battling something

He still scored 40 goals, and that was probably the worst season of his career.

The guy is a certified stud on the ice
 

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The fact that two players scored 60+ last year kinda shows that feat isn't generational, no?
I guess so? It was a pretty remarkable achievement at the time, especially given that he missed 9 games. Idk those guys are absolutely sick players though and if it's not appropriate to call 3 players who are around the same age "generational" then so be it
 

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I think 4 years was the perfect term if I am Leaf management. If this core continues to go 1 and out in the playoffs over the next 5 years then you can burn it down and start over. But if he win a couple Rockets and Harts plus they win a cup then you gladly pay him his 16 mil on the next deal.
This whole take a discount to win argument is garbage and just owner propaganda. Go into your job today and tell them you want to take a 20% cut so that the company can go out and pay more to other employees to "help" the core.
When you are talking about regular people, you are talking about dropping from an average of $59,000 yearly salary in Canada dropping 20% to $48,000,

Matthews is still over 10 million dollars a year dropping 20% to work 10 months. One of these is a waaaaay more than livable wage and one you can barely afford rent. This is not a good point.

Take a look at a guy like Tom Brady in New England. He made less money than Joe Flacco because he took pay cuts. He won championships. Seems to be doing fine with his endorsements and business ventures.
 

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Even if the cap goes up to 90, that is still 14.7% of the cap. Ain’t winning with Matthews making 14.7% of the cap. I am very disapointed as a Leafs fan. Factoring in how much they will re-sign Marner for and then Willy, I just don’t see it. Very depressing.
Marner's agent will want 12.95M per.............
Willy will be gone....
 

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“It was a discount because Friedman said the Sharks offered more!”

His next contract will be for 8 years and the same % of the cap.

I’ve always said Matthews will never leave Toronto. They overpay him and he doesn’t have to take any responsibility for his play or his contracts that handcuff the Leafs.

Dreger and Pagnotta claimed 13 million
 
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When you are talking about regular people, you are talking about dropping from an average of $59,000 yearly salary in Canada dropping 20% to $48,000,

Matthews is still over 10 million dollars a year dropping 20% to work 10 months. One of these is a waaaaay more than livable wage and one you can barely afford rent. This is not a good point.

Take a look at a guy like Tom Brady in New England. He made less money than Joe Flacco because he took pay cuts. He won championships. Seems to be doing fine with his endorsements and business ventures.
So what you are actually saying is as long as it is someone else's pay they should take a pay cut but you are not willing to do the same thing. There are a lot of Canadians that make 30,000 a year and would really benefit from a 20% bump up to 36000 a year. It's funny how absolute socialism ( take less money to reward less talented) only applies to the "rich" or other people when it is used for athletes.

Why should any player take less money on a contract to reward another player who is less talented. If a player decides he will play for 10 million instead of 13 million because he is happy with that amount then good for that player. But no player should be criticised for getting a contact making as much as he can while he can.

Tom Brady's contract with the Buccaneers was 50 million over 2 years guaranteed plus 4.5 million in bonuses each year. It was then extended for one more year. Not really a good example of a guy taking a pay cut to win.
 

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When McDavid / Draisaitl get new contracts there will be no Leaf fans posting in those threads.
I get what point you're making but I don't think this is true. The Leafs fans I know in real life are all very preoccupied with the Oilers (and for some reason the Canucks too). When McDavid/Draisaitl get new contracts there will be dozens of Leafs fans posting JFresh charts with a red box for EV Defence and dozens of other posts about 5v5 scoring.
 
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I get what point you're making but I don't think this is true. The Leafs fans I know in real life are all very preoccupied with the Oilers and for some reason the Canucks. When McDavid/Draisaitl get new contracts there will be dozens of Leafs fans posting JFresh charts with a red box for EV Defence and dozens of other posts about 5v5 scoring.
Well of course Leaf fans will be posting when McDavid and Drai sign there new contracts. Who doesn't post about their teams newest additions especially with them wearing Leaf pyjamas
 

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I get what point you're making but I don't think this is true. The Leafs fans I know in real life are all very preoccupied with the Oilers and for some reason the Canucks. When McDavid/Draisaitl get new contracts there will be dozens of Leafs fans posting JFresh charts with a red box for EV Defence and dozens of other posts about 5v5 scoring.
I meet all kinds of Habs fans in Toronto and all they do is talk about the Leafs. They know more about TOR, then their own (so-called) team.

Your comment on TOR fans "preoccupied" with EDM/VAN is wild. I don't even know who VAN's head coach is. Why would we care so heavily about them? They're not in the same division, and how many times do they play them a year? This phenomenon is only exclusive to your experience I'm afraid.
 

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50 goals in 50 games. 60 goals in 72 games. .61 gpg for his career of 7 years. Highest of the last 30 years.

I believe that makes him generational. A generation is typically considered to be 20 years.

These are all objective. Now, please respond with your clearly subjective response with zero back up as to why.
If you want to believe he's generational, have at it. I don't care to try and argue otherwise

Now go return to your bubble and pat yourself on the back for winning yet another argument online
 

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I get what point you're making but I don't think this is true. The Leafs fans I know in real life are all very preoccupied with the Oilers and for some reason the Canucks. When McDavid/Draisaitl get new contracts there will be dozens of Leafs fans posting JFresh charts with a red box for EV Defence and dozens of other posts about 5v5 scoring.
Well said. At least after last year we no longer have to wade through endless threads trying to compare Matthews to McDavid.
 

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An 8 year deal would have almost justified the number yes. Even then it's over payment considering what Mackinnon just signed for. That's the point they're paying the premium AAV without getting the term. Every other super star is committing long term that gets that type of number. He is not.


I like talking hockey. I am responding to the post that I was quoted in. I think it's too bad he didn't sign for 8 years given the AAV. It's not good for the league in my opinion..
You’re absolutely right right. Wish he would have signed longer. Prefer a 6 year deal. These 8 year deals suck. They can really handcuff a team.

I don’t have a problem with the term but yes the AAV sucks. Not justifying it but I’d rather over pay the star players than some plug.

Either way it isn’t a great deal. Or even a good one.
 
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