Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] F Auston Matthews signs extension with the Maple Leafs (4 years, $13.25M AAV)

[WetcoastOrca]

He obviously didn’t want to be in Vancouver.

He said he wanted to stay with the Leafs and had no interest in Vancouver but they were throwing money at him - so he did it as a favour to the Sedin’s.

Like I said a class act. Unlike Matthews.

Find me a player over 30 who got paid more.

You think Matthews and his agent have a crystal ball?

I think you are missing your calling as a players agent. Lol.
Five years from now you’ll be cheering again when he signs a massive long term deal with the Leafs.

 

[Divine]

Like I said a class act. Unlike Matthews.


I think you are missing your calling as a players agent. Lol.

Fun fact: Iginla signed a 3 year deal at the same age as Matthews, and a higher cap percentage.

He earned less on his next contract under a higher cap.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Crosby has never been overpaid. Ever. For even a season. And nobody serious has ever claimed that. The guy took team friendly deals his entire career.

Oh I agree but that wasn't the said case when it actually happened, I am not going to argue it, wish we could pull the archives because there were many who said he was paid too much

 

[leafsfan2point0]

Does any one player bring out so many people? 48 pages already

The hate/jealousy people have for the leafs, which only makes them more popular. It’s a hilarious cycle.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Matthews is obviously about his bread before anything else but I think it's safe to assume he's very happy in Toronto.

Ehh, there's more benefits to Toronto than just the Maple Leafs paying him.

Who knows how many more millions he's making in sponsorships. You ain't getting that in AZ.

 

[AvroArrow]

You don't think the Leafs will re-sign him after this current 4 year extension is up? That's the issue. When that time comes, he'll be asking for even more money than he's making on this newest deal.

So for example, instead of the Leafs going something like $13.5 per year for 8 years *now*, his contract will be $13.15 per year for 4 years and then $15.5 per year for 4 years on the new deal.

So unless your argument is that once this 4 year deal is up the Leafs don't sign him, then I'm not sure why you think this is a good deal for the Leafs.

Or do you believe Matthews, who has always been about the money, will settle for less when this deal expires in 4 years? He's 100% going to get another raise in 4 years time.

Absolutely zero chance he gets more money on a deal at age 30, than he does on a deal at age 25. I know the cap will go up, but why would we pay him MORE when he's older ?

More likely outcome, he signs a cheaper extension maybe around the 12M number.

I just don't see how he has more value at the end of the deal vs now, when he's a 25 year old pending UFA with a full NMC and all the leverage.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

What if we are paying him under 13M or 10M or less at 34 ?

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I believe Auston Matthews will be a better player at age 25 and demand more of the cap at 25, than he will at age 34. Crazy thought I know.

You're assuming he signs another short term deal at 31... to be making any demands at 34.

If he wants to maximize his money (And every bit of his career up to this point would suggest he does) he'll be pushing for 8 years when his renegotiations start at 30 years old.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

He obviously didn’t want to be in Vancouver.

He said he wanted to stay with the Leafs and had no interest in Vancouver but they were throwing money at him - so he did it as a favour to the Sedin’s.

He f***ed you guys over by refusing to waive his no trade clause and never actually said any of what your spouting, that's what actually happened but go on with your revisionist history.............

Absolutely zero chance he gets more money on a deal at age 30, than he does on a deal at age 25. I know the cap will go up, but why would we pay him MORE when he's older ?

More likely outcome, he signs a cheaper extension maybe around the 12M number.

I just don't see how he has more value at the end of the deal vs now, when he's a 25 year old pending UFA with a full NMC and all the leverage.

Because there are these people called agents, who are ONLY about money, ever heard of them?

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Crosby has never been overpaid. Ever. For even a season. And nobody serious has ever claimed that. The guy took team friendly deals his entire career.

Ehh, I believe Crosby has the single highest cap percentage contract in NHL history.

Regardless of whether you believe he was deserving of that or not, it's hard to say that would be, "Team friendly".

 

[Divine]

He f***ed you guys over by refusing to waive his no trade clause and never actually said any of what your spouting, that's what actually happened but go on with your revisionist history.............

He said all of it. Search it up. Sorry if it hurts your feelings.

 

[TS Quint]

Your right, his shortened seasons were all because of injuries and none of them were due to the Covid Pandemic

You're now claiming 6 years of Covid. Totally rational.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

You tend to want to utilize long contracts to spread out the AVV, especially for stars/core players in order to maximize your window. But no, leaf fans think paying matthews more than mack is the way to gain an edge lol.

 

[AvroArrow]

He f***ed you guys over by refusing to waive his no trade clause and never actually said any of what your spouting, that's what actually happened but go on with your revisionist history.............


Because there are these people called agents, who are ONLY about money, ever heard of them?

There's also this thing called GM's, who are ONLY about maximizing output per dollar spent, ever heard of them ? This isn't Jim Benning or Kyle Dubas negotiating his contract.

One would have to be very "optimistic" let's call it, to think that Matthews at 30 years old without a NMC is worth more or can ask for more money than Matthews at 25 years old, in his prime, with a full NMC as a pending UFA.

 

[Divine]

You tend to want to utilize long contracts to spread out the AVV, especially for stars/core players in order to maximize your window. But no, leaf fans think paying matthews more than mack is the way to gain an edge lol.

Matthews make less than league min. over MacK and has a Hart, Rockets, and Lindsay.

I’m sure they’ll live.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

He said all of it. Search it up. Sorry if it hurts your feelings.

Didn't hurt my feelings at all, obviously it did with you since you feel the need to change the past.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Ehh, there's more benefits to Toronto than just the Maple Leafs paying him.

Who knows how many more millions he's making in sponsorships. You ain't getting that in AZ.

I doubt he makes multiple millions in sponsorships (no one in the NHL does) but people do tend to underrate the aspects of living in a big market/big city. They're big cities for a reason. They're tight and nice to live in.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

There's also this thing called GM's, who are ONLY about maximizing output per dollar spent, ever heard of them ? This isn't Jim Benning or Kyle Dubas negotiating his contract.

One would have to be very "optimistic" let's call it, to think that Matthews at 30 years old without a NMC is worth more or can ask for more money than Matthews at 25 years old, in his prime, with a full NMC as a pending UFA.

Good luck with that.

 

[Divine]

Didn't hurt my feelings at all, obviously it did with you since you feel the need to change the past.

He did a sit down with Friedman, he says he wanted to stay in Toronto and didn’t want to go to Vancouver. What am I changing?

They offered him 2 years and he joined them for only 1 after half a season of sitting out.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Matthews make less than league min. over MacK and has a Hart, Rockets, and Lindsay.

I’m sure they’ll live.

Matthews will be very happy with his money and individual achievements. What does that do for the team lol

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Find me a star player over 30 who got paid more than his UFA deal in his 20’s.

You think Matthews and his agent have a crystal ball?

Find me a star player (At or anywhere near Matthews' level) who signs a UFA deal that only takes them to 31. They're incredibly rare.

And there's not really much of a crystal ball needed to know that the cap is going to be significantly higher 5 years from now. NHL revenue last season was rumored to have broken $6B. At that type of revenue the cap should be $93.75M. Which means we're likely looking at max cap increases right up until Matthews' next deal.

 

[AvroArrow]

Auston Matthews (age 25 in his prime) <<< Auston Matthews (age 30)

Only on HFBoards

One thing is for sure though, when the usual suspects are losing their minds over this deal, it's definitely a great deal for Toronto.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Absolutely zero chance he gets more money on a deal at age 30, than he does on a deal at age 25. I know the cap will go up, but why would we pay him MORE when he's older ?

More likely outcome, he signs a cheaper extension maybe around the 12M number.

I just don't see how he has more value at the end of the deal vs now, when he's a 25 year old pending UFA with a full NMC and all the leverage.

Assuming his game doesn't drop off a cliff over these next four years (or I guess 5 since it doesn't kick in yet), you honestly don't think that a goal scorer of Matthews' capabilities would get more than $13.15 million on the free agent market from a team desperate for goal scoring? Between the cap going up in 4 years time, to the fact NHL GMs are consistently overpaying in free agency, I think you're being naive if you think Matthews' highest salary will be now versus 4 years from now.

 

[Divine]

Find me a star player (At or anywhere near Matthews' level) who signs a UFA deal that only takes them to 31. They're incredibly rare.

And there's not really much of a crystal ball needed to know that the cap is going to be significantly higher 5 years from now. NHL revenue last season was rumored to have broken $6B. At that type of revenue the cap should be $93.75M. Which means we're likely looking at max cap increases right up until Matthews' next deal.

Iginla did it at an even higher cap percentage, he signed 3 years instead of 4 too. His next contract was a lower cap percentage.

Thornton did it also.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I doubt he makes multiple millions in sponsorships (no one in the NHL does) but people do tend to underrate the aspects of living in a big market/big city. They're big cities for a reason. They're tight and nice to live in.

USA Today was reporting over a year ago that Matthews makes roughly $3.5M in sponsorships.

 

[Divine]

You must have been stoked to see sundin retire as a canuck while still missing the playoffs as a bubble team for many many years after sundin left.

I don’t mind, that’s what happens when you price yourself out of Toronto.

Maybe Matthews learns from that.