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Confirmed with Link: [TOR/CBJ/SJS] TOR acquire Nick Foligno [75% Retained] & Stefan Noesen for 2021 1st, 2021 & 2022 4ths

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Risky, Dubas. Looks like we're betting on this year

We must have made by far the most trades out of any team since the off season. Stacking a pile of good looking names onto our roster and throwing away picks is usually not rewarded by the hockey gods.
 
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Kurtz said:
Foligno went for a 1st+4, Hall for a 2nd+marginal prospect. Unreal.
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Honestly, I'll take Folingo over Hall, considering our team identity and needs. Columbus and Boston eliminating the Leafs has proven to me you win with defensive minded, physical players that show up every game and grind. Super stoked to get Folingo.

Taylor Hall was being called out by people in Buffalo for not showing up enough. We do not need those type of players on this team. A team like Boston has enough of a work horse identity to take on Hall and maybe make it work but I don't think Toronto has enough of those "grind them down" and out work them type of players (even though we've improved a lot in that area) to take a gamble on Hall.
 
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SENSational said:
Foligno is a great pick up, probably the exact player the Leafs needed and didn't even have to give up that much. He's a great playoff performer and will probably play much better now that he's not on CBJ.

Was hoping you guys didn't get him but Dubas did well!
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What do you think about his skating?
 
lottster14 said:
Risky, Dubas. Looks like we're betting on this year

We must have made by far the most trades out of any team since the off season. Stacking a pile of good looking names onto our roster and throwing away picks is usually not rewarded by the hockey gods.
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How does giving up a very late 1st and 3rd and 2 4ths without giving up any prospects or roster players in any way a negative outlook ?
We got tougher , meaner , more war ready and got insurance
I don’t see a smidgen of problems even if we don’t win it all
 
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GQS said:
Why can't we be in the 'win now' stage and also remain in the win for the future stage as well like Detroit did for so many years in their hey day? You have a good Leafs team right now, but if you want to maintain a good Leafs team in the future you of course have to keep drafting and developing prospects well in addition to trading your players who have value that you can't keep for other propects and picks.

I don't know why people keep thinking that we only have a few years to stay at the top and compete when as long as Matthews is here then the Leafs window to win the Cup will always remain open.
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We keep losing 1st round because we are always out muscled and do not carry enough physicality to match, now we can play any style with skill or hardnose with guys like Simmonds, Foligno, Bogo and Hyman that is what Tampa lacked until last season they beefed up with strength to go with their high skill
 
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Cobra777 said:
We keep losing 1st round because we are always out muscled and do not carry enough physicality to match, now we can play any style with skill or hardnose with guys like Simmonds, Foligno, Bogo and Hyman that is what Tampa lacked until last season they beefed up with strength to go with their high skill
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yep. Those names you mentioned in your post will flick like a switch once the postseason starts. The game is going to get REAL physical. It will be an amazing sight to see the Leafs bringing the hurt to the opposition
 
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AM has been taking the body much more this season but no doubt adding a guy like Foligno along with Simmonds, Bogo and Hyman will give this core far more confidence to get more physical
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I agree but what I was asking is “Does AM and other youngsters learn a thing or two in the physical department from Foligno?”
 
The Cobra said:
yep. Those names you mentioned in your post will flick like a switch once the postseason starts. The game is going to get REAL physical. It will be an amazing sight to see the Leafs bringing the hurt to the opposition
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Totally agree bud, sooo looking forward to post season carrying some more snarl now
 
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Either Foligno becomes the #3C keeping Hyman with Matthews or vice versa. Either way the leafs now have a solid shutdown line.

Hyman Matthews Marner
Gally Tavares Nylander
Mik Foligno Engvall
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Foligno Matthews Marner
Gally Tavares Nylander
Mik Engvall Hyman
 
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I'm not worried about losing this year's 1st rounder, or the fact that currently the Leafs don't have many 2021 draft picks left after today's deals. Last year they had 12 draft picks so their cupboard is still decently stocked. Plus, I wouldn't put it past Dubas to pick up some 2021 picks in the offseason. The Leafs are better now than they were yesterday (and hopefully will get even better before the trade deadline) and that's a good thing.
 
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lottster14 said:
Risky, Dubas. Looks like we're betting on this year

We must have made by far the most trades out of any team since the off season. Stacking a pile of good looking names onto our roster and throwing away picks is usually not rewarded by the hockey gods.
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One season after killing the draft in a year that has a clear path to the semis.

If not now, then when? You don't win cups by having the most draft picks.
 
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Puckstuff said:
Honestly, I'll take Folingo over Hall, considering our team identity and needs. Columbus and Boston eliminating the Leafs has proven to me you win with defensive minded, physical players that show up every game and grind. Super stoked to get Folingo.

Taylor Hall was being called out by people in Buffalo for not showing up enough. We do not need those type of players on this team. A team like Boston has enough of a work horse identity to take on Hall and maybe make it work but I don't think Toronto has enough of those "grind them down" and out work them type of players (even though we've improved a lot in that area) to take a gamble on Hall.
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Even if you feel that Foligno is a better fit here than Hall, the fact that Foligno cost us a 1st and Boston got Hall for merely a 2nd, and NYI got Palmeri+Zajac for a 1st...we significantly overpaid.
 
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Kurtz said:
Even if you feel that Foligno is a better fit here than Hall, the fact that Foligno cost us a 1st and Boston got Hall for merely a 2nd, and NYI got Palmeri+Zajac for a 1st...we significantly overpaid.
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But if it is the player you want.....cost becomes rather inconsequential between a 1st and a 2nd.
 
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