Confirmed with Link: [TOR/CBJ/SJS] TOR acquire Nick Foligno [75% Retained] & Stefan Noesen for 2021 1st, 2021 & 2022 4ths

[Faltorvo]

What are you hoping for and at what cost?

example,,i had Merrill on my D want list #3

 

[Le Cobra]

Solid solid.

Extreme defensive usage and does well in it. His offense will most certainly go up with us over his current 30pt pace.

And physical.

So that's maybe the two best defensive forwards on a great defensive team that we've just added.


So this should shut up all you damn boomers now.

You want to know how good this trade was? Imagine having to face the Habs in the playoffs. Now imagine Foligno on the Habs. You know you are in for a battle

 

[banks]

I would have preferred Palmieri a bit. But I'm super excited to have a player like Foligno on the team. And as a side bonus, it's a relief to know Hall isn't coming here.

Him and Simmonds can be game changers in a playoff series.

 

[sxvnert]

What is the likelihood the first pick would turn into a Nick Foligno calibre player

Anything is possible but it wont return a similar player within the next few seasons. We've done the rebuild, drafting Matthews and signing Tavares accelerated the rebuild. They've failed three years in a row (wont count the caps loss).
Its go time.

 

[4thline]

Imagine at the end of the year if we had 2 Sandins and 2 Robertsons instead of trading away our last 2 first round picks and being left with nothing.

We pretty much do in Sandin/Liljegren/Robertson/Amirov. Throw in Niemala and arguably the 1st was our 6th most valuabel "future" asset"

 

[Sun God Nika]

Sens fan here. As unbearable the Leafs fans in Ottawa are going to be, I hope the Leafs win the cup.

Spezza and Foligno are two of the worthiest players in the league for that honour. Also rooting for Jumbo Joe too.

 

[fahad203]

I would have preferred Palmieri a bit. But I'm super excited to have a player like Foligno on the team. And as a side bonus, it's a relief to know Hall isn't coming here.

Him and Simmonds can be game changers in a playoff series.

I see nothing out of Simmonds to say he'll have any impact in playoffs. He cannot skate. I dont' care how tough he is, he cannot skate to keep up. His game unfortunately has passed by, like Lucic's game

They are not impactful like they once were. Ritchie on the other hand is, Virtanen they have potential

 

[Le Cobra]

It SUCKED playing against Foligno last year in the playoffs. Great movie Dubie.

Edit:

2 more thoughts:

1. Foligno is going to be a better, more rounded version of Clifford minus the fighting. No one fights in the playoffs anymore anyway, but Foligno will 100% be the man to stick up for his linemates every shift. Foligno also is a huge addition to our PK, which will be huge in the playoffs, and has already cost us in the playoffs.

2. In response to the argument that this is a "waste" of a draft pick - we would be wasting our prior first round picks (Marner and Matthews and the gang) by not maximizing our roster during our window. The window is wide open right now so we might as well go all in.

This. The draft picks are such a gamble - there are bad draft years. Reality check: you won’t be getting a McDavid or Matthews every year. You would be fortunate to find a Foligno. He’s got intangibles that you simply cannot teach.

 

[Faltorvo]

Anything is possible but it wont return a similar player within the next few seasons. We've done the rebuild, drafting Matthews and signing Tavares accelerated the rebuild. They've failed three years in a row (wont count the caps loss).
Its go time.

hey man,,,, when you have a tender that is 0/8 in clinching games,,well your Fd

 

[RaptorLeaf13]

Dubas didn't accumulate the young players. Our scouting staff did. Dubas traded away a 1st for Marleau last year, and the 1st this year.

Imagine at the end of the year if we had 2 Sandins and 2 Robertsons instead of trading away our last 2 first round picks and being left with nothing.

This is not even talking about how Carolina took Seth Jarvis with our pick. A player that is going to be a star in the league.

Ok well, time will tell how much impact Foligno has. As for losing the first round pick to Carolina, you win some and you lose some. But the Leafs got a first round pick and drafted Amirov by trading Kapanen. My point is that I think we have enough young players who have been developing. We can’t just keep on trying to draft players and hope they will develop. Dubas hired those scouts and as a team drafted those players. They did a great job finding some great players in the lower rounds last couple of drafts. I think the Leaf’s time is now to go for it. Our star players aren’t getting any younger and I think its time for the Leafs to take a chance and go for it. Foligno adds something which the Leafs didn’t have. I have a feeling he will elevate his game I the playoffs and shut down the other team’s top players. But again we will see how it will translate. Really don’t care about this year’s first round pick. Its a weak draft. I am sure Dubas will make it up some how. Its not even going to be a top 10 pick.

 

[sxvnert]

Imagine at the end of the year if we had 2 Sandins and 2 Robertsons instead of trading away our last 2 first round picks and being left with nothing.

Lets wait until Sandin and Robertson accomplish something at the big league level before anointing them.

 

[napoleon in rags]

After much reflection, Napoleon in Rags bestows his blessing on this trade.

Go Leafs Go

 

[Leafsfan74]

Lol @ all the rage. Imagine this place 4 years ago complaining about getting Nick Foligno. You will see this trade pay dividends and then some in the playoffs. He will be a huge difference maker for us in the postseason. Count on it

I don't think he will be alone.

Let's compare both lineups from last year to this year. Go back 2-3 years and do the same. Compare those teams with this team that has Brodie, Bogosian, Thornton, Simmonds, Foligno, Galchenyuk and Campbell in net. This current Leaf team would win 19 out of 20 playoff series.

If Dubas adds a couple more pieces (in my opinion, a solid D man and backup vet goalie), Leafs will win all 20 and it won't even be close. Not only are they better on paper, they are playing a far better defensive game, which is an absolute necessity to win a Cup.

 

[BayStBullies]

This. The draft picks are such a gamble - there are bad draft years. Reality check: you won’t be getting a McDavid or Matthews every year. You would be fortunate to find a Foligno. He’s got intangibles that you simply cannot teach.

People on here love drawing up 30 player lists they gather from reading legit scout ranks. Then years later when one of the 30 players makes noise in the NHL, they will come on here and say "I can't believe the Leafs didn't pick them! They were on my list!!"

 

[Le Cobra]

Totally agree. Guys like Foligno and Nash are the type of warriors you want on your team come playoff time. And for those who are complaining they’re free agents, who’s to say we don’t re-sign them? This helps us have a head start on negotiations for a deal to be made once the expansion draft is complete.

the camaraderie in the Leafs’ dressing room and the tone that management has set has turned this organization into one that many players both rookies and veterans, are envious of and gravitate towards. We all know McDavid wanted to be a Leaf.

 

[fahad203]

Ok well, time will tell how much impact Foligno has. As for losing the first round pick to Carolina, you win some and you lose some. But the Leafs got a first round pick and drafted Amirov by trading Kapanen. My point is that I think we have enough young players who have been developing. We can’t just keep on trying to draft players and hope they will develop. Dubas hired those scouts and as a team drafted those players. They did a great job finding some great players in the lower rounds last couple of drafts. I think the Leaf’s time is now to go for it. Our star players aren’t getting any younger and I think its time for the Leafs to take a chance and go for it. Foligno adds something which the Leafs didn’t have. I have a feeling he will elevate his game I the playoffs and shut down the other team’s top players. But again we will see how it will translate. Really don’t care about this year’s first round pick. Its a weak draft. I am sure Dubas will make it up some how. Its not even going to be a top 10 pick.

I don't care for picks anymore. It's go time, it's time to burn the boats
I like the trades we made. I still think we need a depth winger and a goalie. We have the cap space if Andersen is out long

Throw in few picks at Buffalo for Ullmark and let's get Bobby Ryan
Hoffman would be ideal. I still think they get Granlund from Nashville

 

[Faltorvo]

Lets wait until Sandin and Robertson accomplish something at the big league level before anointing them.

yup

sandy has 1 game at any lvl in the past year

and rob needs to fill out to protect those joints and bones

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

he is 1 inch shorter then the league average and about 10 lb heavier
now you can call that a big player,,i sure as heck won't

how he plays is a different descriptive line

Tampa had one forward that outweighed him (Maroon) and only three over 200 pounds. Their average was probably close to 20 pounds lighter.

 

[bossram]

I have mixed feelings in that I'm not sure where he fits into the line up. I'm assuming he will be 2nd or 3rd LW, but can he still play efficiently in the top 6? He brings those things we need, leadership, defensively smart, gritty checker with some skill, albeit, not as much as he used to of course.

He also stands up for his team mates and is a pretty good fighter, hell, he's fought Reaves and did decent.

I'm convincing myself more of the Foligno trade.

He brings some specific elements that are areas of need in the Leafs forward corps: forechecking and defense.

He's a blackhole on offense. His days of top-six production are behind him,

I think he'll fit in well on a defensive 3rd line with Engvall and Mikheyev, but playing him in the top-six and PP would be a mistake IMO.

 

[Jozay]

I would have preferred Palmieri a bit. But I'm super excited to have a player like Foligno on the team. And as a side bonus, it's a relief to know Hall isn't coming here.

Him and Simmonds can be game changers in a playoff series.

Foligno and Simmonds can be game changers?

What year is this

 

[zeke]

I see nothing out of Simmonds to say he'll have any impact in playoffs. He cannot skate. I dont' care how tough he is, he cannot skate to keep up. His game unfortunately has passed by, like Lucic's game

They are not impactful like they once were. Ritchie on the other hand is, Virtanen they have potential

Yeah simmonds and Foligno are not the same calibre of player.

Simmonds is the bad kind of toughness - he's mostly a liability out there and you don't want him getting caught out against the other teams' top players.

Foligno is the good kind of toughness - the kind that you WANT out there against the best players on every shift.

 

[aingefan]

We’ve drafted in the first round 2/3 years with Dubas as GM. The year we didn’t have a 1st we drafted robertson, who almost immediately demonstrated himself as a 1st round level prospect.

Niemela might end up that level of prospect too.

 

[Faltorvo]

Foligno and Simmonds can be game changers?

What year is this

in PO style hockey??

prolly a better chance then willi the friendly ghost

 

[Budz]

I don’t get our fan base. It’s a good trade. The cost is acceptable - was it home run value wise (maybe not).

It’s like complaining about Matthews contract being 500k too high (who gives a shit). If these are the worst mistakes Dubas and the front office ever make, we are golden.

He should fit in nicely with this team that is now full of heart, character and high on the give- a- shit-meter

I hope Dubas has one more surprise for us tomorrow. ALL in.

 

[tokyoite]

I like the deal, but giving up 1st rd pick is no-no.