Confirmed Trade: [TOR/BOS] Brandon Carlo (15% retained) for Fraser Minten, cond. 2026 1st round pick (top 5 protected), 2025 4th round pick
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MoneyManny
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whoa there. It is an older D. Injuries. I would still be looking for a puck moving, offensive D (RH) in the off season, to go with this 5.
Let Marner walk, trade Domi, maybe sign JT to a friendly hit. With the cap going up and the Marner / Domi / Taveras money, three, maybe 4 spots can be addressed. Your big 3 becomes Matthews, Nylander and Kneiss.
Rather than respond to any post . My evaluation of the trade is it helped both teams needs.
Toronto got a solid shut down D-man on a good contract for two years. Carlo was not having his best year this year the question being is that because of the way he was playing or the players he was playing with. IMO the lack of forward talent on the Bruins hurt Carlo's play . In particular on breakouts.
Boston gets a solid draft pick and what should be a solid prospect . The Bruins are very short on prospects so this is the type of move was needed . When you are a solid contender for many years . It comes at a price .The cupboard was empty.
Toronto got a solid shut down D-man on a good contract for two years. Carlo was not having his best year this year the question being is that because of the way he was playing or the players he was playing with. IMO the lack of forward talent on the Bruins hurt Carlo's play . In particular on breakouts.
Boston gets a solid draft pick and what should be a solid prospect . The Bruins are very short on prospects so this is the type of move was needed . When you are a solid contender for many years . It comes at a price .The cupboard was empty.
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Leafs loaded up. Imo they are the favourites to come out of the east. Avs vs Leafs for the Cup Final.
Toronto doesn't need Carlo or Laughton to move the needle. They need guys that can just do their job. Toronto need the top 3 guys to move the needle cause they have been shit in the playoffs.
Ezpz
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Set with two guys who should decline pretty steeply soon in Tanev and OEL? Two more guys that could age out in Rielly and McCabe? A guy with seven thousand concussions in Carlo?
I think you're being a bit optimistic. Three years is a long time in the NHL.
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I've never been high on him. The price is still high. You are being a weird dork lmao
It's funny how many MTL fans are in here; obviously nothing left going on with their team this time of year.
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And you’re clearly being pessimistic. Both are still effective players on good cap hits.
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ReginKarlssonLehner
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Carlo will be a terrific fit in Toronto.
They got 2 great pieces in him and Laughton.
I don't see it enough to beat Florida who got Marchand and Jones, both better players on a team that was already better than Toronto.
They got 2 great pieces in him and Laughton.
I don't see it enough to beat Florida who got Marchand and Jones, both better players on a team that was already better than Toronto.
Ezpz
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I'll just leave you to do your own research. Go on eliteprospects and search every good shutdown dman of the last 30 years and tell me which ones didn't fall off a cliff at 34-35 years old. Dmen do not stay elite into the age Tanev/OEL are approaching. It's not pessimistic to incorporate facts into your worldview.
Without even checking the answer is going to be HOF or HOF candidates like Pronger or Chara.
Hell there's not even a single elite 35+ dmen in the league right now except Carlson and Pietrangelo who turned 35 mid-season and both aren't nearly as good as they were a few years ago.
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The90
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I’m not going to do that. I’m well aware people decline as they age thanks. But generally their offence goes first, then their defence. Lots of examples out there of D men playing late careers as savy vets.
Not to mention Carlo is literally only 28.
The fact that you need to keep coming for a back and forth about a very obviously decent trade (for both sides) tells me you don’t like it as a Habs fan. Which is great for the leafs. Means they did something right.
The90
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Exactly. The leafs were looking for depth middle pairing pieces. Which is what they went out and got. Nobody is expecting prime Nik Lidstrom back there.
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You said Tanev and OEL are still effective, Carlo's age is irrelevant to those two aging out well before three years as the original post I quoted stated the Leafs D would be solidified for that long. I would bet thousands of dollars the six players outlined in that post will not all still be on the Leafs starting roster in three years.
They wouldn't have traded for Carlo if they thought Tanev and OEL will still be effective three years from now. This was obviously a "our defense isn't good enough" trade. It was the right move too because the Leafs window isn't unlimited. I'm not dunking on the trade at all, it's do or die for the Leafs core.
I hope it fails cause I hate you guys but I don't think it was the wrong choice to balance a top heavy roster with some good depth pieces. Minten and the firsts weren't going to be key parts of the Matthews core anyways.
Much better than last year anyways, trading for a washed Edmundson.
As a leafs fan, this is what I've been trying to tell the rest of the fan base. If you've been watching Bruins hockey this season Carlo has taken a step back. Maybe a stronger team in Toronto will help but a 1st and one of the organizations top prospects is crazy.
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Leafs finally got their long awaited Jake Gardiner replacement. Another deep playoff run coming up.
The90
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I don’t even know what the point of your posts are. Like the bolded, why else would they make a trade than to get better now or later.
It’s bizarre how much a small move is occupying your headspace. They’re both middle pairing d men right now. That’s all they’re asked to be. If they fall off then, great. They don’t have unmovable cap hits. You’re literally yelling at clouds and coming up with a hypothetical dream scenario in your head here to pass it off as a negative.
Brandon Carlo just is not very good at all, and a first for him? One of the worst trades here, in my eyes.
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No way man. I have been confidently assured by Leafs fans that they've just acquired a stud top-pairing shut down dman, you're just hating!
The90
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Nice comparable. A powerplay d man, vs a stay at home d man. Makes sense.
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I was comparing the game costing giveaways and horrendous defensive coverage. You'll see.
Acquiring Carlo had nothing to do with projecting OEL and Tanev's next 3 years. It was about upgrading Conor Timmins. With Tanev out, we don't have a strong right-side PKer. We needed depth there. Carlo and Laughton help our PK, which is currently 23rd in the NHL (i think).
Fair point on the age of our D, it is a concern that pretty much every leaf fan is aware since we signed Tanev and OEL. That said, those two and McCabe have easily been our best defensemen this year.
The90
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Source for the ‘stud top pairing d man’? Are most not saying he’s a middle pairing guy?
