As a Hab fan no way I make that deal, if they are getting a high 2nd then Trudeau is not on the table. I would only consider adding someone who no longer fits into the plans like Farrell or Mysak just to balance the contracts in the 50.
Value of: Top Dollar for Lafreniere
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Knies hasn’t played 10 games in the NHL and looked awful in college compared to Snuggard so let’s not get ahead of ourselves here.
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NJ DevLolz
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Nico Cauzuki
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I wouldn't move those assets for Lafreniere. Too much for a guy who seems utterly lost on the ice
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oceanchild
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This whole situation was predictable and NYR fans have been saying they would rather drive his value to zero than sell him at a loss. No need to revisit this or speak to sunk cost, let them keep him and when the time comes grab him off waivers.
I would rather not trade Podkolzin for him, at least the kid has heart and puts in the effort.
savebyrichter94
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FoxysExpensiveNYDigs
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Come on now. He's not going to get waived. Some of these hot takes are getting ridiculous.
oceanchild
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Give it time, floating around like he is
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Brooklyndevil
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Here’s my view, I feel bad for Laf and believe he needs a change. In addition, Ranger fans need to stop using the name kid line. These guys are no longer rookies or 2nd year players. It really sound foolish.
FoxysExpensiveNYDigs
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Brooklyndevil
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Fine. Go through this thread, the term kid line is used often. They’re not kids anymore. But if you like, call them kids going well into their 30’s, if they’re still together.
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The Rangers are totally Yakupoving/Puljujarving Lafrenière. This is not going to end well for them.
NickyFotiu
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I'm not thrilled by Laf lately but he is not getting waived. That is pure nonsense. He had a very strong second half and playoffs in 2021-22. He was expected to take a step forward in 2022-23 but he did not. He probably took a small step back in some ways. Still he is a defensively responsible 40 point 3rd liner at 21. Guys do not usually peak at 21. If somebody wants him they will have to come with either a top prospect or a mid first round pick.
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As I said all offseason, hfboards is the only place on earth where draft capital and mid level prospects are more valuable than winning an actual cup.
Laff would be the best forward on the habs.
That's what makes HFBoards so special. It's like America... It's not so much a place as it is an idea. As long as people believe in it, it will exist. Even of its only a dream.
Top dolla wasn't even lower midcard. I think you're selling laf short.
Just to be clear
bern HAS AGAIN BEEN PROVEN CORRECT
once Laf skating sufficient, w/proper linemates = chemistry he would be in Steve Vickers territory
Price since season started, some evidence potential does = actual now a fact, even if he does not reach 40ish gs he is now sched to hit, his production now COMMANDS huge increase
bern will get around to a full analysis over the w'e
bern HAS AGAIN BEEN PROVEN CORRECT
once Laf skating sufficient, w/proper linemates = chemistry he would be in Steve Vickers territory
Price since season started, some evidence potential does = actual now a fact, even if he does not reach 40ish gs he is now sched to hit, his production now COMMANDS huge increase
bern will get around to a full analysis over the w'e
The Crypto Guy
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Womp, the responses in this thread looking a bit silly now.
What has Lafreniere accomplished so far?
Pathetic numbers for a first overall - not to say that every 1st OA is going to be a Matthews or McDavid, but it's clear this guy is more Yakupov.
For comparison here's Yakupov's stats before leaving the NHL.
Pathetic numbers for a first overall - not to say that every 1st OA is going to be a Matthews or McDavid, but it's clear this guy is more Yakupov.
| 2020-21 | New York Rangers | NHL | 56 | 12 | 9 | 21 | 8 | -7 | |||||
| 2021-22 | New York Rangers | NHL | 79 | 19 | 12 | 31 | 37 | 2 | 20 | 2 | 7 | 9 | 11 |
| 2022-23 | New York Rangers | NHL | 81 | 16 | 23 | 39 | 33 | 10 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2023-24 | New York Rangers | NHL | 17 | 8 | 4 | 12 | 4 | 1 | |||||
| NHL Totals | 233 | 55 | 48 | 103 | 82 | 27 | 2 | 7 | 9 | 11 |
For comparison here's Yakupov's stats before leaving the NHL.
| 2012-13 | Edmonton Oilers | NHL | 48 | 17 | 14 | 31 | 24 | -4 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2013-14 | Edmonton Oilers | NHL | 63 | 11 | 13 | 24 | 36 | -33 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2014-15 | Edmonton Oilers | NHL | 81 | 14 | 19 | 33 | 18 | -35 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2015-16 | Edmonton Oilers | NHL | 60 | 8 | 15 | 23 | 24 | -16 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2016-17 | St. Louis Blues | NHL | 40 | 3 | 6 | 9 | 14 | -3 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2017-18 | Colorado Avalanche | NHL | 58 | 9 | 7 | 16 | 26 | 2 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
Nikishin Go Boom
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Way to commit an argument fallacy.
A. There isn’t a trade or series of trades that guarantee a cup. If it did teams would trade all their picks without issue.
2. Some management teams treat their picks with high regard because of the above. They need these picks in a cap world in hopes of a cheaper production player. So it isn’t just HF.
D. Yes HF does overvalue picks sometimes, that doesn’t mean a lavisj trade for Laf puts anyone in a better position to win the cup. His shooting percentage is high and his history isn’t great. Skepticism is likely to occur here.
