Value of: Top 4 Defensemen that may be available at this years trade deadline?

[TheImpatientPanther]

Just curious what Top 4 D may be available at the trade deadline this year?
I know some of these guys are RFAs who may not be available.


Here's the list for 2022-23 UFA Defensemen:





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[Big Daddy Cane]

With Bob Murray no longer in charge, it’s easier to envision Manson getting moved if Anaheim doesn’t keep it up. He should command a good return; a physical Top 4 RHD is the type that GMs will pay the 1st round premium for (see David Savard).

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

The 2 big IFs for me are Lindholm and Klingberg being shopped and/or re-signing with their current teams?

DAL could definitely do it but will they? Not sure if they're headed for a re-tool?
Have some key vet UFAs this year and they just seem tired or wore out with not enough scoring depth up front?

ANA could get a big haul for Lindholm and he can still sign back in ANA if need be.
Thought I saw rumblings he did want to test free agency? Not sure if those who reported are connected with ANA though.

 

[Captain Awesome]

Dallas is in a weird spot, we may be on the cusp of a wholesale front office change, and we also may not be. If Nill and co are fired, I could see the selling of Klingberg. If Nill stays, it could still happen, but it is much less likely. I want to throw Lindell's name in there, but that's just wishful thinking on my part, and he's probably more of an offseason trade kind of player.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Dallas is in a weird spot, we may be on the cusp of a wholesale front office change, and we also may not be. If Nill and co are fired, I could see the selling of Klingberg. If Nill stays, it could still happen, but it is much less likely. I want to throw Lindell's name in there, but that's just wishful thinking on my part, and he's probably more of an offseason trade kind of player.

Why's that? Has there been a major drop off in his game of late? Don't get to watch too many DAL games.

FLA should be interested but the cost of 4 yrs is maybe too rich for us at the moment

 

[Gliff]

Lindholm and Manson.

All Ducks fans want Lindholm resigned and if he is moved he would get a huge return. He is a let 1st pairing guy and those don't become available very often.
For Manson just look at Savard from last season and that is probably close to his return.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Dumoulin Peterson and maybe Letang depends his extension talks

 

[Nucker101]

Lindholm and Manson.

All Ducks fans want Lindholm resigned and if he is moved he would get a huge return. He is a let 1st pairing guy and those don't become available very often.
For Manson just look at Savard from last season and that is probably close to his return.

Hampus would be a huge pickup for a team, can play against top lines and handle himself well

 

[wraparound]

I fully expect one of Manson or Lindholm to be traded. as a Ducks fan, my preference would be for it to be Manson going for a juicy futures package and Lindholm signing an extension. he’s an ideal partner/mentor for Drysdale, IMO and still has a lot of good hockey ahead of him *if* he can stay healthy, which admittedly has been a bit of a struggle for him recently.

but if he’s insistent on testing free agency, he’d definitely fetch the biggest return at the deadline, so hopefully Solomon pulls the trigger on a trade and avoids losing him for nothing.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Dallas is in a weird spot, we may be on the cusp of a wholesale front office change, and we also may not be. If Nill and co are fired, I could see the selling of Klingberg. If Nill stays, it could still happen, but it is much less likely. I want to throw Lindell's name in there, but that's just wishful thinking on my part, and he's probably more of an offseason trade kind of player.

Whats the deal with Lindell? Been seeing a lot of this sentiment lately.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Lindholm and Manson.

All Ducks fans want Lindholm resigned and if he is moved he would get a huge return. He is a let 1st pairing guy and those don't become available very often.
For Manson just look at Savard from last season and that is probably close to his return.

If moved in late November/early December?

Lindholm:
2022/23 1st + teams top 3 C/D prospect + 2022/23 2nd + mid pick/mid level prospect?

Manson:
1st + 3rd + prospect?

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

If moved in late November/early December?

Lindholm:
2022/23 1st + teams top 3 C/D prospect + 2022/23 2nd + mid pick/mid level prospect?

Manson:
1st + 3rd + prospect?

honestly asking, what pending UFA/rental has returned what is proposed for Lindholm?

 

[Arthuros]

honestly asking, what pending UFA/rental has returned what is proposed for Lindholm?

If Lindholm is a pure rental, 1st and a mid-level prospect is most you'd get IMO.

If extension is in place, that package might be a bit on the rich side but not completely unreasonable.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

If Lindholm is a pure rental, 1st and a mid-level prospect is most you'd get IMO.

If extension is in place, that package might be a bit on the rich side but not completely unreasonable.

with an extension, agreed, still a bit pricey. 1st/2nd/top half-ish player and a prospect... hmmm

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

honestly asking, what pending UFA/rental has returned what is proposed for Lindholm?

Risto had a full year left and think JGP was just before deadline in February.
Maybe missing a piece but some GMs lose their minds in trades.
And Lindholm will be the premier D on the block along with Klingberg.

 

[Captain97]

Klingberg
Lindholm
Manson
Chiarot

Are the 1st 4 that come to mind.

 

[miscs75]

Risto had a full year left and think JGP was just before deadline in February.
Maybe missing a piece but some GMs lose their minds in trades.
And Lindholm will be the premier D on the block along with Klingberg.

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FWIW, the Pageau trade was basically a sign and trade. His contract was announced right after the Islanders acquired him. Without the extension, I don’t think Ottawa gets that much of a return.

 

[Zach716]

With Bob Murray no longer in charge, it’s easier to envision Manson getting moved if Anaheim doesn’t keep it up. He should command a good return; a physical Top 4 RHD is the type that GMs will pay the 1st round premium for (see David Savard).

Hasn't he been pretty lackluster the past few years?

 

[Mangosteen]

Ghost he is having a great year on a really really bad Yotes team. Keeps playing like this will get a late first round pick

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

FWIW, the Pageau trade was basically a sign and trade. His contract was announced right after the Islanders acquired him. Without the extension, I don’t think Ottawa gets that much of a return.

For sure, good point.

Has it be released why conditional picks based on re-signing with new team was taken out or not allowed anymore?

Have always wondered how it wasn't considered tampering and the selling GM actually asking for more asset capital if knowing the player would sign with new team.
Used to see posters on here always asking for more with extension in place which never made sense to me

 

[WhatWhat]

At Dallas's current pace Klingberg should be available. Tho hopefully we can Bowness and Nill first and see if we can workout a better system

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Hasn't he been pretty lackluster the past few years?

A team will talk itself into the idea that he’ll turn back the clock for a couple months. Not much of a choice with so few Manson type RHD overall.

 

[Arthuros]

Hasn't he been pretty lackluster the past few years?

 

[Kcb12345]

Whats the deal with Lindell? Been seeing a lot of this sentiment lately.

He's mostly fine in his own end, but the guy is paid like a dman who should do more than just defend and yet that's all he's capable of doing. Unacceptable on a team that struggles as much as Dallas to score goals.

Horrible puck mover. I mean horrible. Lot of times he will make the safe and frustrating play which is avoid passing to anyone and just launch the puck over everyone on his own team and over to the other team.

You might think I'm just talking about clearing the zone, but he does this when he has time with the puck and the team is trying to break out too without pressure lmao.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

honestly asking, what pending UFA/rental has returned what is proposed for Lindholm?

The Kaberle return is pretty close. 1st+2nd+Colborne (mid-1st D+3).

It’s hard to believe it’s been 10 years since that trade went down. Time is flying.