Value of: Top 4 Defensemen that may be available at this years trade deadline?

[HockeyVirus]

With Bob Murray no longer in charge, it’s easier to envision Manson getting moved if Anaheim doesn’t keep it up. He should command a good return; a physical Top 4 RHD is the type that GMs will pay the 1st round premium for (see David Savard).

Similar to Savard, Manson lives off his reputation and isn't very good anymore.

 

[Guttersniped]

honestly asking, what pending UFA/rental has returned what is proposed for Lindholm?

He’ll be 28 years old, and if he reestablishes himself as a top-pair defenseman, after getting derailed in 2019-20 and only playing 18 games last season, he should have a ton of trade value.

Teams trading for him likely would be interested interested in signing him. It’s similar to Hertl, assuming he makes it the UFA market. Not a lot of these guys even make it to the open market.

I don’t think there’s a set formula price with a 1st/2nd + prospect because it depends on what picks and prospects specific teams have to offer. The quality of the prospect matters a lot.

The Risto trade isn’t exactly an example of that either since Hagg is 26 and will be a UFA next off-season.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

How off am I with Blues 2022 1st, Kostin/Neighbors, +cap dump(Clifford?) for Lindholm.

And if that's a good base what would it take for retention?

 

[HabsDood]

Well if the Habs keep going downhill.. Petry, Edmunson, Chiarot and Savard..

 

[deca guard]

leddy on the last year of contract

 

[Nevins]

Chariot possible.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Sam Girard

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

For sure, good point.

Has it be released why conditional picks based on re-signing with new team was taken out or not allowed anymore?

Have always wondered how it wasn't considered tampering and the selling GM actually asking for more asset capital if knowing the player would sign with new team.
Used to see posters on here always asking for more with extension in place which never made sense to me

thx for the info btw!
wasn't Hagg, like... terrible?

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

thx for the info btw!
wasn't Hagg, like... terrible?

Yes most PHI fans would likely pay to move him but surprisingly off to a decent start in BUF, a goal and 4pts in 12 games, well on pace to best his career high of 20. Was on pace for around 20pts last year.

He'd likely be the mid pick value in my quoted Lindholm value, more just $$/counted contract going the other way.

But in saying this, Lindholm with 60 games left in regular season + playoffs is worth a lot, definitely more than a full year of Risto and 40ish (20 reg. Season + playoffs) games of JGP.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Yes most PHI fans would likely pay to move him but surprisingly off to a decent start in BUF, a goal and 4pts in 12 games, well on pace to best his career high of 20. Was on pace for around 20pts last year.

He'd likely be the mid pick value in my quoted Lindholm value, more just $$/counted contract going the other way.

But in saying this, Lindholm with 60 games left in regular season + playoffs is worth a lot, definitely more than a full year of Risto and 40ish (20 reg. Season + playoffs) games of JGP.

dunno how Risto is doing in Philly (he ended up there right? ) but always thought he could be a lot better away from BUF

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

dunno how Risto is doing in Philly (he ended up there right? ) but always thought he could be a lot better away from BUF

One assist in 9 games, he's usually on a 40ish pt pace.
And he's on one of the better scoring offenses.
Likely took a dip in PP role *without checking*

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

One assist in 9 games, he's usually on a 40ish pt pace.
And he's on one of the better scoring offenses.
Likely took a dip in PP role *without checking*

well, we here in STL know what it's like to bring in a Dman and it take them a full season to aclimate

 

[PocketNines]

How off am I with Blues 2022 1st, Kostin/Neighbors, +cap dump(Clifford?) for Lindholm.

And if that's a good base what would it take for retention?

Clifford only makes 250k above league minimum. It almost has to be Scandella among the roster possibilities.

 

[topshelf15]

Montreal may have a couple...

 

[ManofSteel55]

I could see teams interested in Chairot. I could see Montreal wanting the Savard return for him, but I would be surprised if anyone paid up for that.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I could see teams interested in Chairot. I could see Montreal wanting the Savard return for him, but I would be surprised if anyone paid up for that.

Any idea what he will want on a new deal?
Something around the Ekholm deal?

4 yrs x $5.5 mil?

 

[ManofSteel55]

Any idea what he will want on a new deal?
Something around the Ekholm deal?

No idea, any Habs fans want to chime in? I'm an Oilers fan and would love him on our third pair, but I don't know if it would be a trade we can afford to make given our need for a goalie.

 

[JustAHabFan]

No idea, any Habs fans want to chime in? I'm an Oilers fan and would love him on our third pair, but I don't know if it would be a trade we can afford to make given our need for a goalie.

The guy you really want is Edmunson. I think he is much better than Chiarrot and could be key for a long playoff run.

 

[ManofSteel55]

The guy you really want is Edmunson. I think he is much better than Chiarrot and could be key for a long playoff run.

I like Chairot's versatility in being able to play either side but I think Edmunson would be fine as a 3LD pickup if he is more affordable. Edmunson to Edmonton. I can hear Gene Principe salivating at the thought.

 

[kanucks25]

I imagine the price starts at a 1st for any legit top-4 guy and then add from there depending on the player.

Someone like Lindholm will likely take another piece (like a 2nd or B prospect) and of course even more if it comes with an extension.

 

[CaliforniaBlues310]

How off am I with Blues 2022 1st, Kostin/Neighbors, +cap dump(Clifford?) for Lindholm.

And if that's a good base what would it take for retention?

As much as I do NOT want to trade Vladi, I’d be intrigued by a Vladi+ package to Anaheim that involves getting Lindholm+Rakell(w/ retention depending on package) back.

Both technically rentals, but we could let Rakell walk and use that money to extend Lindholm.

 

[JustAHabFan]

I like Chairot's versatility in being able to play either side but I think Edmunson would be fine as a 3LD pickup if he is more affordable. Edmunson to Edmonton. I can hear Gene Principe salivating at the thought.

Our season has been a disaster so far for two main reasons: Price and Weber. But missing Edmunson was also one of the main reason. He is the main contributor to stabilize our defense and missing him really hurt us. A little bit less physical compare to Chiarrot but making much less mistake than Chiarrot.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Our season has been a disaster so far for two main reasons: Price and Weber. But missing Edmunson was also one of the main reason. He is the main contributor to stabilize our defense and missing him really hurt us. A little bit less physical compare to Chiarrot but making much less mistake than Chiarrot.

Phyiscality is just a bonus, I just want someone steady to help balance Barrie's inconsistency on our 3rd pair.

 

[BatVader]

Wouldn’t call Beaulieu a top 4 Dman… but he should definitely be available

 

[Groo]