Top 20 Prospects of years past

[voyageur]

I don't think that particular one was ever in a table. But I have tables...they paste in pretty easy from a spreadsheet.

Here's 2011:

RK	Player	Prev.	Outcome
1	Scheifele	New	Top-3-F
2	Klingberg	ATL	Bust
3	Cormier	ATL	Bust
4	Postma	ATL	Tweener
5	Gregoire	New	Bust
6	Telegin	ATL	Bust
7	O'Dell	ATL	Bust
8	Maxwell	ATL	Bust
9	Machacek	ATL	Bust
10	Kulda	ATL	Bust
11	Redmond	ATL	Tweener
12	Saponari	New	Bust
13	Melchiori	ATL	Bust
14	Petterson-Wentzel	ATL	Bust
15	Leveille	ATL	Bust
16	Lowry	New	Middle-6-F
17	Serville	New	Bust
18	Samuels-Thomas	New	Bust
19	Albert	ATL	Bust
20	Yuen	New	Bust
--	--------------------	-----	---------------
NR	Pasquale	NR	Bust
NR	Sol	NR	Bust
NR	Brassard	NR	Bust
NR	Chiarot	NR	Bottom-Pair-D
NR	Kulda	NR	Bust

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

In the first few years, we didn't vote past the Top 20. The players below the line were not ranked in 2011 but appeared on later lists.

The outcomes are:
Top-3-F
Middle-6-F
Bottom-6-F
Top-Pair-D
Mid-Pair-D
Bottom-Pair-D
Tweener
Probable-Bust
Bust

I guess Redmond and Postma each played a season in the NHL with no AHL games, but they're still Tweeners in my books. BTW: Redmond turns 31 in a couple of weeks...if you weren't feeling old enough already.

I remember trying to vote for Benny in 2011. Didn't know anything about him but the scouting report, thought that was the kind of player we could use.

I don't know if all those guys were busts. I think Telegin could have had a good career. He had a concussion in St. John's, went back to Russia, and has had a pretty decorated international career. Kulda I thought was good, but never got a chance. I liked Eric O'Dell's game, but he couldn't get the nod from Noel or Maurice over other depth guys.

Cormier was certainly a bust. I swear watching him skate, you would have thought there was cement in them. Definitely not drafted for the modern NHL. But he actually had a good camp his first year here, probably should have made the team, except we pulled Mc Lean off waivers. Among others.

 

[Jets4Life]

Bump

 

[Jets4Life]

Jets Top 20 Prospects 2018:

1. Kristian Vesalainen (3)
2. Sami Niku (4)
3. Mason Appleton (19)
4. Dylan Samberg (9)
5. David Gustafsson (New)
6. Brendan Lemieux (13)
7. Michael Spacek (7)
8. Logan Stanley (10)
9. Luke Green (14)
10. Mikhail Berdin (20)
11. Johnathan Kovacevic (11)
12. Eric Comrie (6)
13. Nathan Smith (new)
14. CJ Suess (NR)
15. Jansen Harkins (8)
16. Skyler McKenzie (NR)
17. Nelson Nogier (17)
18. Nicolas Kerdiles (NR)
19. Giovanni Vallati (New)
20. Santeri Virtanen (15)


Jets Top 25 Prospects - 2019

1. Kristian Vesalainen - 45.4% (1)
2. Dylan Samberg - 43.8% (4)
3. Ville Heinola - 50% (NEW)
4. Sami Niku - 90.8% (2)
5. Mason Appleton - 71.7%% (3)
6. Logan Stanley - 37.1% (8)
7. Mikhail Berdin - 47.3% (10)
8. David Gustafsson - 69.4% (5)
9. Jonathan Kovacevic - 59.8% (11)
10. Henri Nikkanen - 30.2% (NEW)
11. Declan Chisholm - 36.7% (NR)
12. Luke Green - 37.8% (9)
13. Giovanni Vallati - 27.0% (19)
14. Leon Gawanke - 48.1% (NR)
15. Michael Spacek - 36.1% (7)
16. Simon Lundmark - 49.1% (NEW)
17. Jansen Harkins - 26.7% (15)
18. Skyler McKenzie 36.4% (16)
19. Nathan Smith 27.5% (13)
20. Harrison Blaisdell - 26.2% (NEW)
21. Santeri Virtanen - 83.3% (20)
22. Joona Luoto - 75.9% (NEW)
23. Nelson Nogier - 72.2% (17)
24. Austin Wong - 70.4% (NR)
25. Jared Moe - 37% (NR)

 

[Gm0ney]

Lots of contentious picks last year - the top 2 not evening winning a plurality of the vote, and 3 only just. Top 3 are far more clear cut in everyone's minds this year...

 

[Gm0ney]

Here's this who-ranked-where-when list - now with the whole Top 20 dating back to 2011.

RK	2011	2012	2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018	2019	2020
1	Scheifele	Scheifele	Trouba	Ehlers	Ehlers	Laine	Connor	Vesalainen	Vesalainen	Perfetti
2	Klingberg	Trouba	Scheifele	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Connor	Roslovic	Niku	Samberg	Heinola
3	Cormier	Telegin	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Vesalainen	Appleton	Heinola	Samberg
4	Postma	Postma	Lowry	Petan	Petan	Morrissey	Niku	Samberg	Niku	TBD
5	Gregoire	Machacek	Redmond	Hutchinson	Connor	Petan	Poolman	Gustafsson	Appleton	TBD
6	Telegin	Cormier	Petan	Kosmachuk	Armia	Roslovic	Comrie	Lemieux	Stanley	TBD
7	O'Dell	Klingberg	Postma	Lowry	Roslovic	Armia	Spacek	Spacek	Berdin	TBD
8	Maxwell	Pasquale	O'Dell	O'Dell	Harkins	Lemieux	Harkins	Stanley	Gustafsson	TBD
9	Machacek	Sutter	Hellebuyck	Comrie	Comrie	Comrie	Samberg	Green	Kovacevic	TBD
10	Kulda	Lowry	Telegin	Glover	Chiarot	Stanley	Stanley	Berdin	Nikkanen	TBD
11	Redmond	Redmond	Comrie	Lipon	Copp	De Leo	Kovacevic	Kovacevic	Chisholm	TBD
12	Saponari	Kosmachuk	Lodge	Copp	Kostalek	Green	Foley	Comrie	Green	TBD
13	Melchiori	Yuen	Kosmachuk	De Leo	Lemieux	Harkins	Lemieux	Smith	Vallati	TBD
14	Petterson-Wentzel	Gregoire	Kulda	Kichton	Kosmachuk	Poolman	Green	Suess	Gawanke	TBD
15	Leveille	Maxwell	Lipon	Klingberg	Spacek	Spacek	Virtanen	Harkins	Spacek	TBD
16	Lowry	Melchiori	Melchiori	Lodge	De Leo	Niku	De Leo	McKenzie	Lundmark	TBD
17	Serville	O'Dell	Olkinuora	Blomqvist	Foley	Foley	Nogier	Nogier	Harkins	TBD
18	Samuels-Thomas	Sol	Olsen	Kraskovsky	Kraskovsky	Kosmachuk	Gawanke	Kerdiles	McKenzie	TBD
19	Albert	Serville	Kichton	Kostalek	Lipon	Kostalek	Appleton	Vallati	Smith	TBD
20	Yuen	Brassard	Copp	Olsen	Niku	Lipon	Berdin	Virtanen	Blaisdel	TBD

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

No one has yet missed from the #1 spot. Copp holds the distinction of the only player to make it to the NHL from a ranking of #20. Appleton's the only one who made it from #19.

 

[Jets4Life]

No, they kept many of the scouts - they let the Thrashers' Director of Amateur Scouting (Dan Marr) go immediately and promoted Thrashers Head Amateur Scout Marcel Comeau to Director. He oversaw many great drafts by the Jets: Scheifele, Lowry, Trouba, Hellebuyck, Morrissey, Copp, Ehlers, Connor, Roslovic, Appleton, Niku. (The 2011-2015 drafts).

In 2016, Comeau stepped down as Director and another old Atlanta scout that stuck with the team, Mark Hillier, took over. He's overseen the drafts that brought in Laine, Stanley, Berdin, Vesalainen, Samberg, Gustafsson, etc (i.e. the last 3 drafts).


Anyway, you can thank the Thrashers' scouting department for that "Golden Age" of Jets drafting from 2011-2015.

Comeau's departure may explain why the Jets have not drafted as well recently, as they did from 2011-15.

 

[surixon]

Comeau's departure may explain why the Jets have not drafted as well recently, as they did from 2011-15.

We also haven't been drafting as high either which also makes a difference.

Really only the 2016 draft has been poor imo. It seems since then we have gotten back on track. 2017 with Ves, Samberg, Gawanke, Kovacevik and Holm looks very good right now.

2018 with Gus, Chisholm, and Smith also looks pretty solid.

2019 Looks strong as well with Heinola, Nikanen, Landmark all off to good starts in their respective men's leagues. Blaisdell had a solid freshman year last season.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Comeau's departure may explain why the Jets have not drafted as well recently, as they did from 2011-15.

Before you assign blame for an event you need to prove that that event happened.

I'll blame the Stanley debacle on Hillier. But the more likely explanation for our poorer draft record, if that is what we have, is that we are drafting much later. On top of that, we have traded away many of our picks, including two 1sts. Until this year when we drafted 10th and got Perfetti. And don't ignore Heinola with a later 1st.

Not only that but we seem likely to be getting much better results from later rounds. Samberg, Gustafsson, Gawanke, Chisholm, Kovacevic all showing strongly.

 

[Jets4Life]

Jets Top Prospects 2020

Rank	Name	Pos	DY	Vote%	Trend	Links
1	Cole Perfetti	C	2020	80.9%	New	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
2	Ville Heinola	LD	2019	70.5%	+1	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
3	Dylan Samberg	LD	2017	95.0%	-1	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
4	Jansen Harkins	LW/C	2015	37.0%	+13	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
5	Kristian Vesalainen	LW	2017	55.0%	-4	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
6	David Gustafsson	C	2018	69.8%	+2	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
7	Declan Chisholm	LD	2018	26.4%	+4	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
8	Mikhail Berdin	G	2016	27.9%	+4	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
9	Sami Niku	LD	2015	33.0%	-5	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
10	Leon Gawanke	RD	2017	54.1%	+4	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
11	Henri Nikkanen	C	2019	34.1%	+1	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB
12	Daniel Torgersson	LW	2020	32.9%	NEW	Poll, Discussion, HockeyDB

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Jets4Life]

I highlighted prospects who played 25 NHL games in one season.


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RK	2011	2012	2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018	2019	2020
1	Scheifele	Scheifele	Trouba	Ehlers	Ehlers	Laine	Connor	Vesalainen	Vesalainen	Perfetti
2	Klingberg	Trouba	Scheifele	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Connor	Roslovic	Niku	Samberg	Heinola
3	Cormier	Telegin	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Vesalainen	Appleton	Heinola	Samberg
4	Postma	Postma	Lowry	Petan	Petan	Morrissey	Niku	Samberg	Niku	Harkins
5	Gregoire	Machacek	Redmond	Hutchinson	Connor	Petan	Poolman	Gustafsson	Appleton	Vesalainen
6	Telegin	Cormier	Petan	Kosmachuk	Armia	Roslovic	Comrie	Lemieux	Stanley
7	O'Dell	Klingberg	Postma	Lowry	Roslovic	Armia	Spacek	Spacek	Berdin	Chirsholm
8	Maxwell	Pasquale	O'Dell	O'Dell	Harkins	Lemieux	Harkins	Stanley	Gustafsson	Berdin
9	Machacek	Sutter	Hellebuyck	Comrie	Comrie	Comrie	Samberg	Green	Kovacevic	Niku
10	Kulda	Lowry	Telegin	Glover	Chiarot	Stanley	Stanley	Berdin	Nikkanen	Gawanke
11	Redmond	Redmond	Comrie	Lipon	Copp	De Leo	Kovacevic	Kovacevic	Chisholm	Nikannen
12	Saponari	Kosmachuk	Lodge	Copp	Kostalek	Green	Foley	Comrie	Green	Torgersson
13	Melchiori	Yuen	Kosmachuk	De Leo	Lemieux	Harkins	Lemieux	Smith	Vallati	Kovacevic
14	Petterson-Wentzel	Gregoire	Kulda	Kichton	Kosmachuk	Poolman	Green	Suess	Gawanke	Holm
15	Leveille	Maxwell	Lipon	Klingberg	Spacek	Spacek	Virtanen	Harkins	Spacek	Stanley
16	Lowry	Melchiori	Melchiori	Lodge	De Leo	Niku	De Leo	McKenzie	Lundmark	Smith
17	Serville	O'Dell	Olkinuora	Blomqvist	Foley	Foley	Nogier	Nogier	Harkins
18	Samuels-Thomas	Sol	Olsen	Kraskovsky	Kraskovsky	Kosmachuk	Gawanke	Kerdiles	McKenzie	Lundmark
19	Albert	Serville	Kichton	Kostalek	Lipon	Kostalek	Appleton	Vallati	Smith	Blaisdell
20	Yuen	Brassard	Copp	Olsen	Niku	Lipon	Berdin	Virtanen	Blaisdel	Luoto

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Gm0ney]

RK	2011	2012	2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018	2019	2020
1	Scheifele	Scheifele	Trouba	Ehlers	Ehlers	Laine	Connor	Vesalainen	Vesalainen	Perfetti
2	Klingberg	Trouba	Scheifele	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Connor	Roslovic	Niku	Samberg	Heinola
3	Cormier	Telegin	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Vesalainen	Appleton	Heinola	Samberg
4	Postma	Postma	Lowry	Petan	Petan	Morrissey	Niku	Samberg	Niku	Harkins
5	Gregoire	Machacek	Redmond	Hutchinson	Connor	Petan	Poolman	Gustafsson	Appleton	Vesalainen
6	Telegin	Cormier	Petan	Kosmachuk	Armia	Roslovic	Comrie	Lemieux	Stanley	Gustafsson
7	O'Dell	Klingberg	Postma	Lowry	Roslovic	Armia	Spacek	Spacek	Berdin	Chisholm
8	Maxwell	Pasquale	O'Dell	O'Dell	Harkins	Lemieux	Harkins	Stanley	Gustafsson	Berdin
9	Machacek	Sutter	Hellebuyck	Comrie	Comrie	Comrie	Samberg	Green	Kovacevic	Niku
10	Kulda	Lowry	Telegin	Glover	Chiarot	Stanley	Stanley	Berdin	Nikkanen	Gawanke
11	Redmond	Redmond	Comrie	Lipon	Copp	De Leo	Kovacevic	Kovacevic	Chisholm	Nikannen
12	Saponari	Kosmachuk	Lodge	Copp	Kostalek	Green	Foley	Comrie	Green	Torgersson
13	Melchiori	Yuen	Kosmachuk	De Leo	Lemieux	Harkins	Lemieux	Smith	Vallati	TBD
14	Petterson-Wentzel	Gregoire	Kulda	Kichton	Kosmachuk	Poolman	Green	Suess	Gawanke	TBD
15	Leveille	Maxwell	Lipon	Klingberg	Spacek	Spacek	Virtanen	Harkins	Spacek	TBD
16	Lowry	Melchiori	Melchiori	Lodge	De Leo	Niku	De Leo	McKenzie	Lundmark	TBD
17	Serville	O'Dell	Olkinuora	Blomqvist	Foley	Foley	Nogier	Nogier	Harkins	TBD
18	Samuels-Thomas	Sol	Olsen	Kraskovsky	Kraskovsky	Kosmachuk	Gawanke	Kerdiles	McKenzie	TBD
19	Albert	Serville	Kichton	Kostalek	Lipon	Kostalek	Appleton	Vallati	Smith	TBD
20	Yuen	Brassard	Copp	Olsen	Niku	Lipon	Berdin	Virtanen	Blaisdel	TBD

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Gustafsson got cut out somehow. He's back in this one...

 

[Gil Fisher]

Interesting that Copp peaked at #11 despite Team USA experience. College to NHL if I recall.

 

[Jets4Life]

RK	2011	2012	2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018	2019	2020
1	Scheifele	Scheifele	Trouba	Ehlers	Ehlers	Laine	Connor	Vesalainen	Vesalainen	Perfetti
2	Klingberg	Trouba	Scheifele	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Connor	Roslovic	Niku	Samberg	Heinola
3	Cormier	Telegin	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Vesalainen	Appleton	Heinola	Samberg
4	Postma	Postma	Lowry	Petan	Petan	Morrissey	Niku	Samberg	Niku	Harkins
5	Gregoire	Machacek	Redmond	Hutchinson	Connor	Petan	Poolman	Gustafsson	Appleton	Vesalainen
6	Telegin	Cormier	Petan	Kosmachuk	Armia	Roslovic	Comrie	Lemieux	Stanley	Gustafsson
7	O'Dell	Klingberg	Postma	Lowry	Roslovic	Armia	Spacek	Spacek	Berdin	Chisholm
8	Maxwell	Pasquale	O'Dell	O'Dell	Harkins	Lemieux	Harkins	Stanley	Gustafsson	Berdin
9	Machacek	Sutter	Hellebuyck	Comrie	Comrie	Comrie	Samberg	Green	Kovacevic	Niku
10	Kulda	Lowry	Telegin	Glover	Chiarot	Stanley	Stanley	Berdin	Nikkanen	Gawanke
11	Redmond	Redmond	Comrie	Lipon	Copp	De Leo	Kovacevic	Kovacevic	Chisholm	Nikannen
12	Saponari	Kosmachuk	Lodge	Copp	Kostalek	Green	Foley	Comrie	Green	Torgersson
13	Melchiori	Yuen	Kosmachuk	De Leo	Lemieux	Harkins	Lemieux	Smith	Vallati	TBD
14	Petterson-Wentzel	Gregoire	Kulda	Kichton	Kosmachuk	Poolman	Green	Suess	Gawanke	TBD
15	Leveille	Maxwell	Lipon	Klingberg	Spacek	Spacek	Virtanen	Harkins	Spacek	TBD
16	Lowry	Melchiori	Melchiori	Lodge	De Leo	Niku	De Leo	McKenzie	Lundmark	TBD
17	Serville	O'Dell	Olkinuora	Blomqvist	Foley	Foley	Nogier	Nogier	Harkins	TBD
18	Samuels-Thomas	Sol	Olsen	Kraskovsky	Kraskovsky	Kosmachuk	Gawanke	Kerdiles	McKenzie	TBD
19	Albert	Serville	Kichton	Kostalek	Lipon	Kostalek	Appleton	Vallati	Smith	TBD
20	Yuen	Brassard	Copp	Olsen	Niku	Lipon	Berdin	Virtanen	Blaisdel	TBD

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Gustafsson got cut out somehow. He's back in this one...

Haha...thx. I was going crazy trying to fix that.

 

[nhlpro]

Lol at Petan higher then Connor

 

[Gm0ney]

Lol at Petan higher then Connor

So in 2015 Petan won gold at the WJC, tied for the lead in tournament scoring with some guy named McDavid. He was scoring 1.65 p/gp in the WHL. He was still short, but he was a legit prospect.

That same year, Kyle Connor was just a promising skinny kid drafted out of the USHL a month before the poll. Hardly anyone on the board had seen him play.

So it certainly made sense at the time.

Interesting that Copp peaked at #11 despite Team USA experience. College to NHL if I recall.

Copp wasn't really a flashy prospect. He'd signed out of Michigan and played 1 game with the Jets when the poll was done in 2015. Seemed to be a guy who'd play on the Moose for a year or two at least, but he made the Jets roster that fall and never looked back.

 

[voyageur]

Jets Top 20 Prospects 2018:

1. Kristian Vesalainen (3)
2. Sami Niku (4)
3. Mason Appleton (19)
4. Dylan Samberg (9)
5. David Gustafsson (New)
6. Brendan Lemieux (13)
7. Michael Spacek (7)
8. Logan Stanley (10)
9. Luke Green (14)
10. Mikhail Berdin (20)
11. Johnathan Kovacevic (11)
12. Eric Comrie (6)
13. Nathan Smith (new)
14. CJ Suess (NR)
15. Jansen Harkins (8)
16. Skyler McKenzie (NR)
17. Nelson Nogier (17)
18. Nicolas Kerdiles (NR)
19. Giovanni Vallati (New)
20. Santeri Virtanen (15)



Jets Top 25 Prospects - 2019

1. Kristian Vesalainen - 45.4% (1)
2. Dylan Samberg - 43.8% (4)
3. Ville Heinola - 50% (NEW)
4. Sami Niku - 90.8% (2)
5. Mason Appleton - 71.7%% (3)
6. Logan Stanley - 37.1% (8)
7. Mikhail Berdin - 47.3% (10)
8. David Gustafsson - 69.4% (5)
9. Jonathan Kovacevic - 59.8% (11)
10. Henri Nikkanen - 30.2% (NEW)
11. Declan Chisholm - 36.7% (NR)
12. Luke Green - 37.8% (9)
13. Giovanni Vallati - 27.0% (19)
14. Leon Gawanke - 48.1% (NR)
15. Michael Spacek - 36.1% (7)
16. Simon Lundmark - 49.1% (NEW)
17. Jansen Harkins - 26.7% (15)
18. Skyler McKenzie 36.4% (16)
19. Nathan Smith 27.5% (13)
20. Harrison Blaisdell - 26.2% (NEW)
21. Santeri Virtanen - 83.3% (20)
22. Joona Luoto - 75.9% (NEW)
23. Nelson Nogier - 72.2% (17)
24. Austin Wong - 70.4% (NR)
25. Jared Moe - 37% (NR)

If there is a player on those boards who could use an AHL season to revive his career it's Luke Green. Always had promise with his skating, but can never stay healthy.

 

[Jets4Life]

Final 2020 Prospect rankings:

Rank	Name	Pos	DY	Vote%	Trend	Links
1	Cole Perfetti	C	2020	80.9%	NEW	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
2	Ville Heinola	LD	2019	70.5%	+1	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
3	Dylan Samberg	LD	2017	95.0%	-1	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
4	Jansen Harkins	LW/C	2015	37.0%	+13	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
5	Kristian Vesalainen	LW	2017	55.0%	-4	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
6	David Gustafsson	C	2018	69.8%	+2	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
7	Declan Chisholm	LD	2018	26.4%	+4	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
8	Mikhail Berdin	G	2016	27.9%	+4	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
9	Sami Niku	LD	2015	33.0%	-5	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
10	Leon Gawanke	RD	2017	54.1%	+4	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
11	Henri Nikkanen	C	2019	34.1%	+1	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
12	Daniel Torgersson	LW	2020	32.9%	NEW	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
13	Johnathan Kovacevic	RD	2017	24.4%	-4	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
14	Arvid Holm	G	2017	39.3%	+12	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
15	Logan Stanley	LD	2016	40.3%	-9	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
16	Nathan Smith	C	2018	35.2%	+3	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
17	Anton Johannesson	C	2018	44.4%	NEW	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
18	Simon Lundmark	RD	2019	69.8%	-2	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
19	Harrison Blaisdell	C	2019	30.0%	+1	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
20	Joona Luoto	LW	Undrafted	23.5%	+2	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Gm0ney]

Biggest riser: Harkins +13
Biggest faller: Stanley -9

New: Perfetti, Torgersson, Johannesson
Grads to the NHL Roster: Appleton
Dropped: Nogier (Age), Spacek (contract), Valatti (contract)

Harkins +13 is the 2nd biggest rise for a prospect in a year. Appleton jumped 16 a couple of years ago (and Harkins was also the biggest faller that year...so he's been both).

The Jets have moved away from "re-stocking the cupboards" over the last 4 years (2017-2020) compared to the previous 4 (2013-2016) in terms of the quantity of players added via the draft. They've never been too aggressive signing UFA prospects (they do it once in a while but it's low volume).

 

[GumbyCan2]

If there is a player on those boards who could use an AHL season to revive his career it's Luke Green. Always had promise with his skating, but can never stay healthy.

Under 40 pro games played in 3 full seasons at 20 years old+ ( includes all 3, Nhl, Ahl, Echl) does not help a prospects growth.
The kid cannot stay healthy! Period. Doesn't matter if he can outperform Morrissey ( which he can't/doesn't, just making a statement), he cannot be counted upon to "be there". Put your "nickels in a different slot"!

 

[Jets4Life]

Here we go. Found it. The 2020 Jets prospects poll was done later than usual, since COVID delayed the playoffs for a few months. Prospects pools in the last usually last through July, but it looks like August for 2021. I can help out, but I am never very good at starting these polls. Any volunteers?

 

[Jets4Life]

I FOUND IT!!!!

 

[Jets4Life]

1. F-Rutger McGroarty (+3)
2. F-Chaz Lucius (+3)
3. F-Brad Lambert (+2)
4. F-Colby Barlow (NEW)
5. D-Ville Heinola (-3)
6. D-Elias Salomonsson (+7)
7. F-Nikita Chibrikov (NC)
8. G-Domenic DiVincentiis (NR)
9. D-Declan Chisholm (-1)
10. F-Dmitri Rashevsky (-1)
11. F-Danny Zhilkin (+5)
12. G-Thomas Milic (NEW)
13. F-Fabian Wagner (NR)
14. D-Dmitri Kuzmin (+1)
15. F-Daniel Torgersson (-3)
16. D-Artemi Kniazev (NR)
17. D-Simon Lundmark (NC)
18. G-Oskari Salminen (NC)
19. F-Zach Nehring (NEW)
20. D-Tyrel Bauer (NC)


2022

1. F-Cole Perfetti (NC)
2. D-Ville Heinola (NC)
3. D-Dylan Samberg (+2)
4. F-Rutger McGroarty (NEW)
5. F-Brad Lambert (NEW)
6. F-Chaz Lucius (-3)
7. F-Nikita Chibrikov (-2)
8. D-Declan Chisholm (+1)
9. F-Dmitri Rashevsky (+7)
10. F-David Gustafsson (-4)
11. F-Morgan Barron (NR)
12. F-Daniel Torgersson (-2)
13. D-Elias Salomonsson (NEW)
14. D-Leon Gawanke (+4)
15. D-Dmitri Kuzmin (-2)
16. F-Danny Zhilkin (NEW)
17. D-Simon Lundmark (-2)
18. F-Henri Nikkanen (-6)
19. G-Oskari Salminen (NR)
20. RD-Tyrel Bauer (NR)

2021

1. F-Cole Perfetti (NC)
2. D-Ville Heinola (NC)
3. F-Chaz Lucius (NEW)
4. F-Nikita Chibrikov (NEW)
5. D-Dylan Samberg (-2)
6. F-David Gustafsson (NC)
7. F-Kristian Vesalainen (-2)
8. D-Johnathan Kovacevic (+5)
9. D-Declan Chisholm (-2)
10. F-Daniel Torgersson (+2)
11. G-Mikhail Berdin (-3)
12. F-Henri Nikkanen (-1)
13. D-Dmitri Kuzmin (NEW)
14. G-Arvid Holm (NC)
15. D-Simon Lundmark (+3)
16. F-Nathan Smith (NC)
17. F-Dmitri Rashevsky (NEW)
18. D-Leon Gawanke (-8)
19. D-Anton Johannesson (-2)
20. F-Harrison Blaisdell (-1)

Final 2020 Prospect rankings:

Rank	Name	Pos	DY	Vote%	Trend	Links
1	Cole Perfetti	C	2020	80.9%	NEW	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
2	Ville Heinola	LD	2019	70.5%	+1	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
3	Dylan Samberg	LD	2017	95.0%	-1	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
4	Jansen Harkins	LW/C	2015	37.0%	+13	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
5	Kristian Vesalainen	LW	2017	55.0%	-4	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
6	David Gustafsson	C	2018	69.8%	+2	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
7	Declan Chisholm	LD	2018	26.4%	+4	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
8	Mikhail Berdin	G	2016	27.9%	+4	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
9	Sami Niku	LD	2015	33.0%	-5	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
10	Leon Gawanke	RD	2017	54.1%	+4	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
11	Henri Nikkanen	C	2019	34.1%	+1	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
12	Daniel Torgersson	LW	2020	32.9%	NEW	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
13	Johnathan Kovacevic	RD	2017	24.4%	-4	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
14	Arvid Holm	G	2017	39.3%	+12	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
15	Logan Stanley	LD	2016	40.3%	-9	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
16	Nathan Smith	C	2018	35.2%	+3	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
17	Anton Johannesson	C	2018	44.4%	NEW	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
18	Simon Lundmark	RD	2019	69.8%	-2	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
19	Harrison Blaisdell	C	2019	30.0%	+1	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects
20	Joona Luoto	LW	Undrafted	23.5%	+2	Poll, Discussion, Elite Prospects

2019:

Jets Top 20 Prospects - 2019

1. Kristian Vesalainen - 45.4%
2. Dylan Samberg - 43.8%
3. Ville Heinola - 50%
4. Sami Niku - 90.8%
5. Mason Appleton - 71.7%%
6. Logan Stanley - 37.1%
7. Mikhail Berdin - 47.3%
8. David Gustafsson - 69.4%
9. Jonathan Kovacevic - 59.8%
10. Henri Nikkanen - 30.2%
11. Declan Chisholm - 36.7%
12. Luke Green - 37.8%
13. Giovanni Vallati - 27.0%
14. Leon Gawanke - 48.1%
15. Michael Spacek - 36.1%
16. Simon Lundmark - 49.1%
17. Jansen Harkins - 26.7%
18. Skyler McKenzie 36.4%
19. Nathan Smith 27.5%
20. Harrison Blaisdell - 26.2%


Jets Top 20 Prospects 2018:

1. Kristian Vesalainen - 66.9%
2. Sami Niku - 90.7%
3. Mason Appleton - 42.9%
4. Dylan Samberg - 78%
5. David Gustafsson - 39.7%
6. Brendan Lemieux - 48.7%
7. Michael Spacek - 44%
8. Logan Stanley - 71.8%
9. Luke Green - 35.8%
10. Mikhail Berdin - 31.9%
11. Johnathan Kovacevic - 32.4% (55.7% winner in tiebreak over Comrie)
12. Eric Comrie - 50%
13. Nathan Smith - 39.7%
14. CJ Suess - 40.3%
15. Jansen Harkins - 27.1%
16. Skyler McKenzie - 32.4%
17. Nelson Nogier - 27.8%
18. Nicolas Kerdiles - 22.2%
19. Giovanni Vallati - 20.3%
20. Santeri Vertanen


2017:

1. Kyle Connor, LW
2. Jack Roslovic, C/RW
3. Kristian Vesalainen, LW/RW
4. Sami Niku, D
5. Tucker Poolman, D
6. Eric Comrie, G
7. Michael Spacek, C/RW
8. Jansen Harkins, C
9. Dylan Samberg, D
10. Logan Stanley, D
11. Johnny Kovacevic, D
12. Erik Foley, LW
13. Brendan Lemieux, LW
14. Luke Green, D
15. Santeri Virtanen, C
16. Chase De Leo, C
17. Nelson Nogier, D
18. Leon Gawanke, D
19. Mason Appleton, C
20. Mikhail Berdin, G.

2016:

1. Patrik Laine, LW/RW, Tappara (Liiga)
2. Kyle Connor, LW/C, Michigan (NCAA)
3. Connor Hellebuyck, G, Manitoba (AHL)
4. Josh Morrissey, D, Manitoba (AHL)
5. Nic Petan, C/LW, Manitoba (AHL)
6. Jack Roslovic, C/RW, Miami University (NCAA)
7. Joel Armia, RW, Winnipeg (NHL)
8. Brendan Lemieux, LW, Windsor (OHL)
9. Eric Comrie, G, Manitoba (AHL)
10. Logan Stanley, D, Windsor (OHL)
11. Chase De Leo, C/LW, Manitoba (AHL)
12. Luke Green, D, Saint John (QMJHL)
13. Jansen Harkins, C, Prince George (WHL)
14. Tucker Poolman, D, North Dakota (NCAA)
15. Michael Spacek, C/RW, Red Deer (WHL)
16. Sami Niku, D, JYP (Liiga)
17. Erik Foley, LW, Providence College (NCAA)
18. Scott Kosmachuk, RW, Manitoba (AHL)
19. Jan Kostalek, D, Manitoba (AHL)
20. JC Lipon, RW/C, Manitoba (AHL)

2015:

1. Nik Ehlers, RW (NC)
2. Connor Hellebuyck, G (+1)
3. Josh Morrissey, D (-1)
4. Nic Petan, C/LW (NC)
5. Kyle Connor, C (NEW)
6. Joel Armia, RW (NR)
7. Jack Roslovic, C/RW (NEW)
8. Jansen Harkins, C (NEW)
9. Eric Comrie, G (NC)
10. Ben Chiarot (NR)
11. Andrew Copp, C (+1)
12. Jan Kostalek, D (+7)
13. Brendan Lemieux (NR)
14. Scott Kosmachuk, RW (-8)
15. Michael Spacek, C (NEW)
16. Chase De Leo, C (-3)
17. Erik Foley, LW (NEW)
18. Pavel Kraskovsky (NC)
19. J.C. Lipon, RW (-8)
20. Sami Niku, D (NEW)

2014

1. LW Nikolaj Ehlers (NEW)
2. D Joshua Morrissey (+1)
3. G Connor Hellebuyck (+6)
4. C Nic Petan (+2)
5. G Michael Hutchinson (NR)
6. RW Scott Kosmachuk (+7)
7. LW Adam Lowry (-3)
8. C Eric O'Dell (NC)
9. G Eric Comrie (+2)
10. D Jack Glover (NEW)
11. RW JC Lipon (+4)
12. C Andrew Copp (+8)
13. C Chase De Leo (NEW)
14. D Brendan Kichton (+5)
15. LW Carl Klingberg (NR)
16. C Jimmy Lodge (-4)
17. LW Axel Blomqvist (NR)
18. C Pavel Kraskovsky (NEW)
19. D Jan Kostalek (NEW)
20. C Ryan Olsen (-2)


2013

1. Jacob Trouba (+1(
2. Mark Scheifele (-1)
3. Josh Morrissey (NEW)
4. Adam Lowry (+6)
5. Zach Redmond (+6)
6. Nic Petan (NEW)
7. Paul Postma (-3)
8. Eric O'Dell (+9)
9. Connor Hellebuyck (NR)
10. Ivan Telegin (-7)
11. Eric Comrie (NEW)
12. Jimmy Lodge (NEW)
13. Scott Kosmachuk (-1)
14. Arturs Kulda (NR)
15. J.C. Lipon (NEW)
16. Julian Melchiori (NC)
17. Juho Olkinuora (NR)
18. Ryan Olsen (NR)
19. Brenden Kichton (NR)
20. Andrew Copp (NEW)


2012

1. Mark Scheifele, C (NC)
2. Jacob Trouba, D (NEW)
3. Ivan Telegin, LW (+3)
4. Paul Postma, D (NC)
5. Spencer Machacek, RW (+4)
7. Patrice Cormier, C (-4)
8. Carl Klingberg, LW (-6)
8. Eddie Pasquale, G (NR)
9. Lukas Sutter, C (NEW)
10. Adam Lowry, LW (+6)
11. Zach Redmond, D (NC)
12. Scott Kosmachuk, RW (NEW)
13. Zachary Yuen, D (+7)
14. Jason Gregoire, LW (-9)
15. Ben Maxwell, C (-7)
16. Julian Melchiori, D (-3)
17. Eric O'Dell, C (-10)
18. Cody Sol, D (NR)
19. Brennan Serville, D (-2)
20. Austen Brassard, RW (NR)



2011

1. Mark Scheifele, C
2. Carl Klingberg, LW
3. Patrice Cormier, C
4. Paul Postma, D
5. Jason Gregoire, LW
6. Ivan Telegin, C
7. Eric O'Dell, C
8. Ben Maxwell, C
9. Spencer Machacek, RW
10. Arturs Kulda, D
11. Zach Redmond, D
12. Vinny Saponari, RW
13. Julian Melchiori, D
14. Fredrik Pettersson-Wentzel, G
15. Daultan Leveille, C
16. Adam Lowry, LW
17. Brennan Serville, D
18. Jordan Samuels-Thomas, LW
19. John Albert, C
20. Zachary Yuen, D


*bolded players have participated in 50 or more NHL games in their careers

 

[ps241]

Here's this who-ranked-where-when list - now with the whole Top 20 dating back to 2011.

RK	2011	2012	2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018	2019	2020
1	Scheifele	Scheifele	Trouba	Ehlers	Ehlers	Laine	Connor	Vesalainen	Vesalainen	Perfetti
2	Klingberg	Trouba	Scheifele	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Connor	Roslovic	Niku	Samberg	Heinola
3	Cormier	Telegin	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Morrissey	Hellebuyck	Vesalainen	Appleton	Heinola	Samberg
4	Postma	Postma	Lowry	Petan	Petan	Morrissey	Niku	Samberg	Niku	TBD
5	Gregoire	Machacek	Redmond	Hutchinson	Connor	Petan	Poolman	Gustafsson	Appleton	TBD
6	Telegin	Cormier	Petan	Kosmachuk	Armia	Roslovic	Comrie	Lemieux	Stanley	TBD
7	O'Dell	Klingberg	Postma	Lowry	Roslovic	Armia	Spacek	Spacek	Berdin	TBD
8	Maxwell	Pasquale	O'Dell	O'Dell	Harkins	Lemieux	Harkins	Stanley	Gustafsson	TBD
9	Machacek	Sutter	Hellebuyck	Comrie	Comrie	Comrie	Samberg	Green	Kovacevic	TBD
10	Kulda	Lowry	Telegin	Glover	Chiarot	Stanley	Stanley	Berdin	Nikkanen	TBD
11	Redmond	Redmond	Comrie	Lipon	Copp	De Leo	Kovacevic	Kovacevic	Chisholm	TBD
12	Saponari	Kosmachuk	Lodge	Copp	Kostalek	Green	Foley	Comrie	Green	TBD
13	Melchiori	Yuen	Kosmachuk	De Leo	Lemieux	Harkins	Lemieux	Smith	Vallati	TBD
14	Petterson-Wentzel	Gregoire	Kulda	Kichton	Kosmachuk	Poolman	Green	Suess	Gawanke	TBD
15	Leveille	Maxwell	Lipon	Klingberg	Spacek	Spacek	Virtanen	Harkins	Spacek	TBD
16	Lowry	Melchiori	Melchiori	Lodge	De Leo	Niku	De Leo	McKenzie	Lundmark	TBD
17	Serville	O'Dell	Olkinuora	Blomqvist	Foley	Foley	Nogier	Nogier	Harkins	TBD
18	Samuels-Thomas	Sol	Olsen	Kraskovsky	Kraskovsky	Kosmachuk	Gawanke	Kerdiles	McKenzie	TBD
19	Albert	Serville	Kichton	Kostalek	Lipon	Kostalek	Appleton	Vallati	Smith	TBD
20	Yuen	Brassard	Copp	Olsen	Niku	Lipon	Berdin	Virtanen	Blaisdel	TBD

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

No one has yet missed from the #1 spot. Copp holds the distinction of the only player to make it to the NHL from a ranking of #20. Appleton's the only one who made it from #19.

A few thoughts:

This is a great spreadsheet. Unfortunately winning and contending did a number on our draft results after Laine was picked up until Perfetti was drafted.

If Winnipeg doesn’t draft well we are in more trouble than almost any other market.

We are back to having a decent prospect list in 2023. It is my opinion we need to add two prospects in the next 3 drafts at key positions (Center + RHD or even LHD) that our franchise #1 centre and D men for the next core if we want to contend.

That will take luck.

 

[Jets4Life]

1. F-Rutger McGroarty (+3)
2. F-Chaz Lucius (+3)
3. F-Brad Lambert (+2)
4. F-Colby Barlow (NEW)
5. D-Ville Heinola (-3)
6. D-Elias Salomonsson (+7)
7. F-Nikita Chibrikov (NC)
8. G-Domenic DiVincentiis (NR)
9. D-Declan Chisholm (-1)
10. F-Dmitri Rashevsky (-1)
11. F-Danny Zhilkin (+5)
12. G-Thomas Milic (NEW)
13. F-Fabian Wagner (NR)
14. D-Dmitri Kuzmin (+1)
15. F-Daniel Torgersson (-3)
16. D-Artemi Kniazev (NR)
17. D-Simon Lundmark (NC)
18. G-Oskari Salminen (NC)
19. F-Zach Nehring (NEW)
20. D-Tyrel Bauer (NC)

Looking at the 2023 crop of draft picks, who are the biggest risers/drops?
I would say the top 5 would be:

1. Rutger Groarty
2. Brad lambert
3. Ville Heinola
4. Colby Barlow
5. Elias Salmonsson

Risers:

Nikita Chibrikov
Jacob Julien
Elias Salomonsson

Fallers:

Chaz Lucius (injuries)
Domenic DiVincentiis
Artemi Kniazev

 

[UFO]

Never realized Carl Klingberg was drafted by the Jets. He won two championships with my local Swiss team.