Top 20 Prospects of years past

[Shazzam]

Interesting analysis of the top prospects lists. Thanks for putting it together.

 

[Jets4Life]

Hard to believe, but the class of 2016 could have as many as 12 NHL regulars. I guess we will see by the end of the decade

 

[Channelcat]

Hard to believe, but the class of 2016 could have as many as 12 NHL regulars. I guess we will see by the end of the decade

I predict that Morrissey will continue to drop one spot per year for the next ten years

 

[Jets4Life]

2017 Top 20 Prospects:

1. Kyle Connor, LW/C
2. Jack Roslovic, C/RW
3. Kristian Vesalainen, LW/RW (AHL Moose)
4. Sami Niku, D, (AHL Moose)
5. Tucker Poolman, D
6. Eric Comrie, G (AHL Moose)
7. Michael Spacek, C/RW, (AHL Moose)
8. Jansen Harkins, C,
9. Dylan Samberg, D, NCAA (Minnesota-Duluth)
10. Logan Stanley, D, (AHL Moose)
11. Jonathan Kovacevic, D, (AHL Moose)
12. Erik Foley, LW, traded to St.Louis
13. Brendan Lemieux, RW (traded to NY Rangers)
14. Luke Green, D, (AHL Moose
15. Santeri Virtanen, C (Finland)
16. Chase De Leo, C, traded to Anaheim
17. Nelson Nogier, D (AHL Moose)
18. Leon Gawanke, D, (AHL Moose
19. Mason Appleton ,C
20. Mikhail Berdin, G, (AHL Moose)



Comparison sake: 2016 Top 20 Prospects:

1. Patrik Laine, LW/RW
2. Kyle Connor, LW/C
3. Connor Hellebuyck, G
4. Josh Morrissey, D
5. Nic Petan C/LW
6. Jack Roslovic, C/RW (AHL Moose)
7. Joel Armia, RW
8. Brendan Lemieux, RW, Windsor (AHL Moose)
9. Eric Comrie, G (AHL Moose)
10. Logan Stanley, D, Windsor (OHL)
11. Chase De Leo, C/LW (AHL Moose)
12. Luke Green, D, Saint John (QMJHL)
13. Jansen Harkins, C, Prince George (WHL)
14. Tucker Poolman (NCAA)
15. Michael Spacek, C/RW, Red Deer (WHL)
16. Sami Niku, D, Finland
17. Erik Foley, LW (NCAA)
18. Scott Kosmachuk, RW (AHL Moose)
19. Jan Kostalek, D (AHL Moose)
20. J.C.Lipon, RW (AHL Moose)

 

[Jets4Life]

2017 Prospect Rankings

Rk | Player | POS | 2016-17 Team | +/- | Draft Yr
1| Kyle Connor| LW/C | Jets/Moose | +1|2015
2| Jack Roslovic| C/RW| AHL Moose|+4|2015
3| Kristian Vesalainen| LW/RW | Finland|NEW|2017
4| Sami Niku| D| Finland | +12|2015
5| Tucker Poolman |D|NCAA North Dakota|+9|2013
6| Eric Comrie| G | AHL Moose|+3|2013
7| Michael Spacek| C/RW| WHL Red Deer|+8|2015
8| Jansen Harkins| C| WHL Prince George|+5|2015
9| Dylan Samberg|D| US High School|NEW|2017
10| Logan Stanley| D| OHL Windsor|0|2016
11| Jonathan Kovacevic|D|NCAA Merrimack|NEW|2017
12| Erik Foley|LW|NCAA Providence|+5|2015
13| Brendan Lemieux|RW|AHL Moose|-5|2014
14| Luke Green|D|QMJHL Sherbrooke|-2|2016
15| Santeri Virtanen|C|Finland|NEW|2017
16| Chase De Leo|C|AHL Moose|-5 |2014
17| Nelson Nogier|D|AHL Moose|NR|2014
18|Leon Gawanke|D|QMJHL Cape Breton|NEW|2017
19|Mason Appleton|C|NCAA Michigan State|NR|2015
20.|Mikhail Berdin|G|USHL Sioux Falls|NR|2016

 

[Jets4Life]

Past Winnipeg Jets Prospect Rankings

2011:

Rk | Player | POS | 2010-11 Team 1| Mark Scheifele|C|OHL Barrie
2|Carl Klingberg|LW|Sweden
3| Patrice Cormier | C|Thrashers/Wolves
4| Paul Postma| D|AHL Wolves
5| Jason Gregoire| LW| NCAA North Dakota
6| Ivan Telegin| C| OHL Saginaw
7| Eric O'Dell| C | OHL Sudbury
8| Ben Maxwell | C| AHL Wolves
9| Spencer Machacek|RW|AHL Wolves
10| Arturs Kulda|D|AHL Wolves
11| Zach Redmond | D| AHL Wolves
12| Vinny Saponari|RW|USHL Dubuque
13| Julian Melchiori | D| OHL Oshawa
14| Fredrik Pettersson_Wentzel|G|Sweden
15| Daultan Leveille|C|NCAA Michigan State
16| Adam Lowry| LW | WHL Swift Current
17| Brennan Serville | D| OJHL Stouffville
18| Cody Sol| D| OHL Kitchener
19| John Albert|C|NCAA Ohio State
20| Zachary Yuen | D| WHL Tri-City

2012:

Rk | Player | POS | 2011-12 Team | +/- 1| Mark Scheifele| C|OHL Barrie| 0 2| Jacob Trouba | D|USHL Development Team|NEW
3| Ivan Telegin | LW |OHL Barrie |+7
4| Paul Postma| D|AHL Ice Caps| 0
5| Spencer Machacek| RW| AHL Ice Caps |+4
6| Patrice Cormier| C| AHL Ice Caps| -3
7| Carl Klingberg| LW| Sweden | -5
8| Eddie Pasquale| G | AHL Ice Caps | UNL
9| Lukas Sutter | C|WHL Saskatoon | NEW
10| Adam Lowry| LW | WHL Swift Current| +6
11| Zach Redmond | D| AHL Ice Caps | 0
12| Scott Kosmachuk| RW |OHL Guelph | NEW
13| Zachary Yuen | D| WHL Tri-City | +7
14| Jason Gregoire | LW| NCAA North Dakota | -9
15| Ben Maxwell | C| AHL Ice Caps | -7
16| Julian Melchiori | D| AHL Ice Caps | -3
17| Eric O'Dell| C | AHL Ice Caps | -10
18| Cody Sol| D| OHL Kitchener| UNL
19| Brennan Serville | D| NCAA Michigan| -2
20| Austen Brassard| RW |AHL Belleville| UNL

2013

Rk | Player | POS | 2012-13 Team | +/- 1|Jacob Trouba|D|NCAA Michigan|+1
2|Mark Scheifele|C|OHL Barrie|-1
3|Josh Morrissey |D|WHL Prince Albert|NEW
4|Adam Lowry|C/LW|WHL Swift Current|+6
5| Zach Redmond|D|AHL Ice Caps|+6
6| Nic Petan|C|WHL Portland|NEW
7|Paul Postma|D|AHL Ice Caps|-3
8| Eric O'Dell |C|AHL Ice Caps|+9
9| Connor Hellebuyck|G|NCAA UMass-Lowell|UNL
10| Ivan Telegin|LW|AHL Ice Caps|-7
11| Eric Comrie|G|WHL Tri-City|NEW
12| Jimmy Lodge|C|OHL Saginaw|NEW
13| Scott Kosmachuk |RW| OHL Guelph|-1
14| Arturs Kulda |D|KHL|UNL
15| J.C. Lipon| RW|WHL Kamloops|NEW
16| Julian Melchiori|D| AHL Moose| 0
17| Jussi Olkinuora |G|NCAA Denver|NEW
18| Ryan Olsen|C| WHL Kelowna|UNL
19| Brenden Kichton|D|WHL Spokane|NEW
20| Andrew Copp|C|NCAA Michigan|NEW

2014

Rk | Player | POS | 2013-14 Team | +/- 1| Nikolaj Ehlers|LW|QMJHL Halifax|NEW
2| Joshua Morrissey |D|WHL Prince Albert|+1
3| Connor Hellebuyck |G|NCAA UMass-Lowell|+6
4| Nic Petan |C|WHL Portland|+2
5| Michael Hutchinson|G|AHL Ice Caps|UNL
6| Scott Kosmachuk|RW| AHL Ice Caps|+7
7| Adam Lowry|C/LW|WHL Swift Current|-2
8| Eric O'Dell |C| AHL Ice Caps| 0
9| Eric Comrie |G|WHL Tri-City|+2
10| Jack Glover|D| USHL Development Team| NEW
11| JC Lipon|RW|AHL Ice Caps|+4
12| Andrew Copp |C| NCAA Michigan|+8
13| Chase De Leo|C|WHL Portland|NEW
14| Brendan Kichton|D|AHL Ice Caps|+5
15| Carl Klingberg|LW| AHL Ice Caps|UNL
16| Jimmy Lodge|C|OHL Saginaw|-4
17| Axel Blomqvist|LW|WHL Victoria|UNL
18| Pavel Kraskovsky|C| KHL | NEW
19| Jan Kostalek |D|QMJHL Rimouski|UNL
20|Ryan Olsen|C|WHL Saskatoon|-2

2015

Rk | Player | POS | 2014-15 Team | +/- 1| Nikolaj Ehlers| RW/LW | QMJHL Halifax | +0
2| Connor Hellebuyck| G | AHL Moose | +1
3| Josh Morrissey| D |WHL Kelowna|-1
4| Nic Petan| C/LW|WHL Portland|+0
5| Kyle Connor| LW |USHL Youngstown| NEW
6| Joel Armia|RW|AHL Ice Caps|NEW
7| Jack Roslovic| C/RW| USHL Development Team | NEW
8| Jansen Harkins| C| WHL Prince George|NEW
9| Eric Comrie| G|WHL Tri-City|+0
10| Ben Chiarot| D|JETS|UNL 11| Andrew Copp| C|NCAA Michigan|+1
12| Jan Kostalek| D |QMJHL Rimouski|+7
13| Brendan Lemieux| LW| OHL Barrie | NEW
14| Scott Kosmachuk| RW |AHL Ice Caps| -8
15| Michael Spacek| C| Czech Republic| NEW
16| Chase De Leo| C |WHL Portland|-3
17| Erik Foley| LW | USHL Cedar Rapids| NEW
18| Pavel Kraskovsky|C |KHL|+0
19| J.C. Lipon| RW |AHL Ice Caps|-8
20| Sami Niku| D| Finland|NEW

2016

Rk | Player | POS | 2015-16 Team | +/- 1| Patrik Laine| LW/RW | Finland | NEW
2| Kyle Connor| LW/C|NCAA Michigan|+3
3| Connor Hellebuyck| G| Jets/Moose|-1
4| Josh Morrissey| D |AHL Moose|-1
5| Nic Petan |C/LW|Jets/Moose|-1
6| Jack Roslovic| C/RW| NCAA Miami (Ohio)|+1
7| Joel Armia| RW|JETS|-1
8| Brendan Lemieux| RW| OHL Windsor |+5
9| Eric Comrie| G | AHL Moose|+0
10| Logan Stanley| D| OHL Windsor|NEW
11| Chase De Leo| C/LW |AHL Moose|+5
12| Luke Green| D| QMJHL Saint John|NEW
13| Jansen Harkins| C| WHL Prince George|-5
14| Tucker Poolman |D|NCAA North Dakota|UNL
15| Michael Spacek| C/RW| AHL Red Deer|+0
16| Sami Niku| D| Finland | +4
17| Erik Foley| LW | NCAA Providence|+0
18| Scott Kosmachuk| RW| AHL Moose|-4
19| Jan Kostalek|D|AHL Moose|-7
20.| JC Lipon|RW|AHL Moose|-1

 

[Jets4Life]

Just bumping this thread up, as it was an annual tradition to vote on the top 20 Jets prospects each season. Unfortunately, my charts are not compatible with the new software, so the lists will have to do. I would imagine Connor, Roslovic, and Poolman "graduated" to become pro.

Vesalainen would be my vote for the 2018 top Jets prospect.

 

[puck stoppa]

Just bumping this thread up, as it was an annual tradition to vote on the top 20 Jets prospects each season. Unfortunately, my charts are not compatible with the new software, so the lists will have to do. I would imagine Connor, Roslovic, and Poolman "graduated" to become pro.

Vesalainen would be my vote for the 2018 top Jets prospect.

Did you wanna setup the voting polls? I asked in prospect thread if anyone was willing to do it?

 

[Jets4Life]

Did you wanna setup the voting polls? I asked in prospect thread if anyone was willing to do it?

Unfortunately I will have to decline. I am much busier this year, as opposed to last. I hope someone will step up to the plate.

 

[Blackmon]

Man, there are some names on there that I once had very high hopes for. Kulda was a beast when he played, but he just couldn't stick. I feel like Telegin could've been very good had he been given the right opportunities.

My biggest disappointment over the years was Burmistrov though. I was certain he was gonna be a star.

 

[puck stoppa]

Unfortunately I will have to decline. I am much busier this year, as opposed to last. I hope someone will step up to the plate.

I got it up. Someone had to.

 

[koth]

Lukas Sutter played in the Fort Carlton Hockey League for the Prairie Outlaws. The FCHL is a Senior Hockey league in Saskatchewan. Lukas was instrumental in leading the Outlaws to the league championship.

Fort Carlton Hockey League

He played the position of... Safety?

 

[Jets4Life]

He played the position of... Safety?

All I know is Sutter attended the University of Saskatchewan in 2016-17, and played a handful of games, and now plays in the ACHW (Allan Cup Hockey West) for the Rosetown Red Wings, a small town in Saskatchewan. I guess with all the Sutter money, he can afford to play hockey for fun, and worry about an education later on.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

He played the position of... Safety?

I think their webmaster just doesn't know how to spell center.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think their webmaster just doesn't know how to spell center.

Apparently he isn't the only one.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

He played the position of... Safety?

Slotback, more likely.

 

[Jets4Life]

Jets Top 20 Prospects 2018:

1. Kristian Vesalainen (3)
2. Sami Niku (4)
3. Mason Appleton (19)
4. Dylan Samberg (9)
5. David Gustafsson (New)
6. Brendan Lemieux (13)
7. Michael Spacek (7)
8. Logan Stanley (10)
9. Luke Green (14)
10. Mikhail Berdin (20)
11. Johnathan Kovacevic (11)
12. Eric Comrie (6)
13. Nathan Smith (new)
14. CJ Suess (NR)
15. Jansen Harkins (8)
16. Skyler McKenzie (NR)
17. Nelson Nogier (17)
18. Nicolas Kerdiles (NR)
19. Giovanni Vallati (New)
20. Santeri Virtanen (15)

 

[Jets4Life]

4 Grads from 2017: Connor (1), Roslovic (2), Poolman (5), Tanev (23)
5 Dropped from the team: Foley (12), De Leo (16), Phillips (NR), Kostalek (NR), Stallard (NR)
3 New: Gustafsson (5), Smith (13), Vallati (19), [Moe, Chisholm, Wong - outside Top 20]
1 Added: Kerdiles (18), [Bourque - outside Top 20]

Biggest Jump: Appleton +16 (HM: Suess + 12)
Biggest Fall: Harkins -7 (HM: Comrie -6)

Only 3 2018 draft picks made the Top 20 - that ties with 2016 and 2012 for the fewest new picks to make the list in a year. All 3 of those drafts, the Jets had only 6 picks.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

Yeesh that 2011 board was terrible

 

[Jets4Life]

Is it possible to still make polls? I remember when this thread had the old hfboards format, and it looked pretty cool. I'm looking forward to ranking our top 20 prospects, even though most of our best young players are now in the NHL.

 

[koth]

Why were the Thrashers prospects so terrible in 2011? Didn't the Jets keep most of the same scouts that Atlanta had? Why did the Thrashers draft so poorly?

 

[Jets4Life]

Why were the Thrashers prospects so terrible in 2011? Didn't the Jets keep most of the same scouts that Atlanta had? Why did the Thrashers draft so poorly?

I'm almost positive the Jets "cleaned house" when they acquired the Thrashers. In terms of management/coaching, they let nearly everyone from Atlanta go. I can only assume that they let most of the scouts go as well.

 

[Gm0ney]

I'm almost positive the Jets "cleaned house" when they acquired the Thrashers. In terms of management/coaching, they let nearly everyone from Atlanta go. I can only assume that they let most of the scouts go as well.

No, they kept many of the scouts - they let the Thrashers' Director of Amateur Scouting (Dan Marr) go immediately and promoted Thrashers Head Amateur Scout Marcel Comeau to Director. He oversaw many great drafts by the Jets: Scheifele, Lowry, Trouba, Hellebuyck, Morrissey, Copp, Ehlers, Connor, Roslovic, Appleton, Niku. (The 2011-2015 drafts).

In 2016, Comeau stepped down as Director and another old Atlanta scout that stuck with the team, Mark Hillier, took over. He's overseen the drafts that brought in Laine, Stanley, Berdin, Vesalainen, Samberg, Gustafsson, etc (i.e. the last 3 drafts).

The Thrashers' scouts who are still here: Bogdanovic (now Director of European Scouting), Dobson (Atlanta's Director of Pro Scouting, who's still in that role today with the Jets).

Some other scouts stuck around with the Jets for a few seasons. Tavis MacMillan and John Perpich have since moved on.

They added lots of new scouts as well, of course. Aside from all the Atlanta guys who ran/run the director positions, most of the current regular scouts are Jets hires. But the first few seasons it was predominately the Thrashers scouting staff plus some new hires.

Oh and Assistant GM Larry Simmons is another guy that came over from the Thrashers.

There are as many ex-Thrashers management and scouts working for the Jets as there are former Moose people:

Moose: Zinger, Flaherty, St. Croix, Roy and Keane.
Thrashers: Simmons, Dobson, Hillier, Bogdanovich, Comeau

Anyway, you can thank the Thrashers' scouting department for that "Golden Age" of Jets drafting from 2011-2015.

 

[pucka lucka]

Why were the Thrashers prospects so terrible in 2011? Didn't the Jets keep most of the same scouts that Atlanta had? Why did the Thrashers draft so poorly?

Most were already on the team, joined as 18 year olds. It wasn't as bad as it appeared. Bogo, Kane, Burmi all made the team at 18.

 

[Jets4Life]

Most were already on the team, joined as 18 year olds. It wasn't as bad as it appeared. Bogo, Kane, Burmi all made the team at 18.

For a #3 Overall draft pick, Bogosian didn't live up to expectations
At #10 Overall, Burmistrov was a bust.
Only Kane (#4 Overall) has had a decent career.