Post-Game Talk: Too Little Too Late - Jets Fall In Game 4 (2-1)

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Hendricks was not the reason this team lost tonight. People are just venting
No were not just venting. You don't think a fast player like Roslovic would help beat that 1996 trap? You think playing Morrissey the least 5-5 is a good strategy? PoMo makes the same mistakes, but our lineup allows us to out perform is mediocre coaching.

Most of the time.
 

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Another positive note, when the Jets lead a series 3-1, my anxiety from Jets 1.0 ptsd is unbearable.

When the Jets were up 3-1 against the Wild, i was a mess leading up to game 5.

Jets 2.0 are creating their own destiny bro! We got this. We will bounce back. I trust this group.

I know 1.0 still give many fans playoff nightmares but that franchise is still having the luck it’s always had in the nhl down in Arizona.

We are up against the best team in the league this series so it was never going to be a cake walk. It will go down to the wire.
 
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Preds are rolling 4 lines, and the Jets are playing 3 because their 4th line is ground to a halt by Hendricks. That's going to be a problem as the series goes on. It's entirely preventable.

This is proving to be everything. Jets should have been able to ice a much better lineup at home tonight.

Seriously even if we got a lead of less than 5 goals #15 shouldn’t touch the ice.
 

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People always look to personnel during games like this. To me, this was very obviously a tactical loss. Laviolette, or someone on the coaching staff there watched the tape and drew up a solid BO defense play. That's simply something you have to deal with in tactics sports, your opponent knows what you're plays are, and you don't know their counters until you see them in game.

What's encouraging to me is that you know that Maurice and his men are going to go to the drawing board, they're going to watch the tape and draw up a play to counter what the Preds drew up before this game. Very rarely do you see back to back games like this, because usually the coach will draw up a play to solve the problem. What should be disconcerting to the Preds is that they haven't been able to get their offense going at all, really, since parts the first game, in any consistent manner. So they know what the Jets are coming at them with on paper and they've gone back to the board three or four times now and really haven't been able to come up with something. In light of that, I think the Jets should be favorites if they execute better in Game 6.
 
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Not sure people are really blaming Hendricks here.

Scheifele, Wheeler, Connor, Laine, etc. no showed this game. That is why we lost.

But it was an asinine decision to dress Hendricks. Not why we lost but it was dumb and the flack people are giving Maurice is deserved.
 

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Jets 2.0 are creating their own destiny bro! We got this. We will bounce back. I trust this group.

I know 1.0 still give many fans playoff nightmares but that franchise is still having the luck it’s always had in the nhl down in Arizona.

We are up against the best team in the league this series so it was never going to be a cake walk. It will go down to the wire.

I can handle game 7 anxiety. Lol
 

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Lol ... Blaming Maurice for playing Hendricks ... Newsflash he only played 6:42.

Ok let me explain this to everyone why that 6:42 is so important.

Your playing every second day pretty much. The tax paid on the body is enormous just in a normal game let alone a series. You NEED that time to be up above 10 mins.

That's 1, two is if your down or the game goes into overtime or double overtime you want to have a top 9 that can still play. We can't have that if we have shief playing 25 mins a game.

3 this is a war of attrition. It's the Stanley cup playoffs. It's called the hardest trophy to win for a reason. In today's NHL the last 10 years to win the cup combine high end skill with a 4th line that can score and play considerable mins.

The answer isn't giving Laine or wheeler MORE ice time the answer is giving them less.
 

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Lol ... Blaming Maurice for playing Hendricks ... Newsflash he only played 6:42.

Piss off with that twaddle. Him playing that little shows you just how little Paul Maurice has faith in him. That means the Jets were effectively running three lines for most of the night. That's a drag on your top lines, because they're playing more minutes than they're used to, so they aren't able to generate as much offense as they usually do. Not only that, but haven't Hendricks on the 4th Line hamstrings two generally effective players in Copp and Armia. Copp needs to be reunited with Lowry and Tanev, and Little with Perreault and Armia. Then you staple Hendrick's ass to the Press Box, and keep feeding him popcorn.

That's the thing that pisses me off the most. Frenchy said he was 100% healthy. He had the medical clearance. Paul Maurice said everyone not in a yellow jersey was an option tonight. That meant Frenchie could go in. He didn't go in. It's a stupid f***ing decision on his part. f*** you, Paul Maurice.

Would it have changed the fortunes of the game? I have no idea. Would it have made the Jets and objectively stronger team as a result? Would it have given them a better chance to win? You're f***ing right it would. There was no legitimate reason for Hendricks being put in. None whatsoever.
 

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Hendricks was on for a goal against with his controller disconnected. It was a one goal game, which caused us to chase the game and allowed Nashville to revert to the trap. How are there people that don't think he had a negative impact?

Aside from the goal against, him only playing 6:42 is also a negative impact. He is brutal and can't be trusted in any situation, so our other players have to pick up his minutes and therefore are more tired. This isn't hard people. Its ok to say that Paul Maurice made a blunder.
 

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Think out this for a minute:

Time on ice:

Myers 20:30
Trouba 18:51
Morrissey 17:37

That is seriously messed up...

Trouba and Morrissey are clearly part of a clear top 3. They need to play enough to reflect that.
 

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Murat asking Maurice if the goal against the 4 th line contributed to their low ice time.p or was that always the plan

Maurice. No the score did.
 
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If Perreault is as healthy as he thinks he is I wouldn't mind seeing him playing on the third with Little and Armia for game 5. It'd let Lowry play the 4th with Copp and Tanev again.

I think that basically means that Perreault needs to be healthy enough to play the aggressive forecheck role that he played in the regular season though.
 

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Hendricks was on for a goal against with his controller disconnected. It was a one goal game, which caused us to chase the game and allowed Nashville to revert to the trap. How are there people that don't think he had a negative impact?

Aside from the goal against, him only playing 6:42 is also a negative impact. He is brutal and can't be trusted in any situation, so our other players have to pick up his minutes and therefore are more tired. This isn't hard people. Its ok to say that Paul Maurice made a blunder.
Bang on.

Some seriously questionable roster usage issues. Hendricks and the use of D was weird.
 

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Think out this for a minute:

Time on ice:

Myers 20:30
Trouba 18:51
Morrissey 17:37

That is seriously messed up...

Trouba and Morrissey are clearly part of a clear top 3. They need to play enough to reflect that.

The hard match game sometimes bites you
 
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Think out this for a minute:

Time on ice:

Myers 20:30
Trouba 18:51
Morrissey 17:37

That is seriously messed up...

Trouba and Morrissey are clearly part of a clear top 3. They need to play enough to reflect that.

I am too lazy and rattled to look at the final numbers but Ben Chiarot was 2nd in icetime after 2. Trouba and Morrissey were running a 75% Corsi and they were 5 and 6. Its insane.
 

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Hendricks was not the reason this team lost tonight. People are just venting

Correct but it was still the wrong move IMO

I get it we all hate to lose but Preds are a great team and they were going to find a way to win tonight one way or the other. They got the bounces and their coach laid out the right game plan. Hard to say how all this is going to play out now but this feels like it has 7 games written all over it.

Tonight it was Nashville’s turn to draw blood. Nobody said this was going to be easy. Welcome to playoff hockey against the presidents trophy winner.
 

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Laine wasn't bad the whole game. He's probably the slowest player in the top 6 and still was the most effective on the breakout.

Enstrom I thought was the worst player today, hands down.

I don't, Myers had a rough game to. Someone needs to remind him he's not Bobby Orr. Holds onto the puck to long and more often than not turns it over and or makes a late pass killing the break out.
 
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We couldn't score.......that is not Hendricks Job. Like I said all day we will win and lose based on how the drivers of this team played. They didn't make enough plays.

Hendricks was irrelevant

Hendricks was irrelevant - that's the f***ing problem. He had no positive difference in the outcome of the game, but made the bottom end of the Jets drag with his presence. His line was on the ice for the first goal against. Fourth line, third pair, defensive zone faceoff. Goal.
6 minutes 42 seconds in a playoff game. That's how much he played.

Hendricks was not the reason this team lost tonight. People are just venting

No. You don't get to hand wave away the criticisms people have about tonight's game because "we are just venting". You don't get to do that. Hendricks had the least effect on tonight's game, but he had a negative effect on tonight's game. You ice the best team you can possibly have. Maurice didn't do that. That's indefensible.
 

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Murat asking Maurice if the goal against the 4 th line contributed to their low ice time.p or was that always the plan

Maurice. No the score did.
4th line with Hendricks has had very low ice-time for the last 3 games. That affects the whole line-up. It's not just about their performance and how much they cost the team directly. Jets have turned a 4 line team into largely a 3 line team. I'm concerned it's not going to be enough vs. the Preds. I thought Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Connor and Ehlers looked tired by mid-game. They are being run too hard, in my opinion.
 

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I don't, Myers had a rough game to. Someone needs to remind him he's not Bobby Orr. Holds onto the puck to long and more often than not turns it over and or makes a late pass killing the break out.
Bobby Orr moved his feet. Myers glides without moving the puck. That's a bad combination.
 
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