Post-Game Talk: Too Little Too Late - Jets Fall In Game 4 (2-1)

[CorgisPer60]

If you are actually trying to claim that Maurice looked at a 100% healthy Perreault, vs. Hendricks, and he chose Hendricks, your brain is addled from playoff loss anger. It's tiring to read this same crap after every loss.

We don't know the reason why he chose Hendricks over Perreault. Logically, it would be because he isn't 100% ready to go yet, despite it being reported as him being medically cleared. All I have are the tweets I read from beat writers and scribes, who are around the Jets organisation, saying that he was good to go, and then him not playing tonight. Confusion gives way to anger when you don't understand it.

 

[surixon]

Also I am confused as to the standard of officiating. Why did it take until like the 5th or 6th viscous cross check by PK on Scheifele in the slot when the puck wasn't there before he actually got called this series?

They also seem to have a double standard on hooks, Lowry got a call and then Laine was hooked exactly the same way and nothing.

I also find it odd that the refs seem to be turning a blind eye to all the body/physical penalties but are calling most of the real borderline stick infractions. I don't know how many times the preds are beat by a move, get their free arm out to grab our guy and sling shot them selves back into the play and get the puck. I really have no idea what is getting called or not half the time now.

 

[JetsFan815]

To be fair to Maurice, the usage of the d-men is on Huddy not him. He probably shouldn't be getting the blame for the D deployment. I doubt what we saw tonight happens again next game, that part was an aberration rather than a pattern.

 

[KingBogo]

When has a team ever announced that a player is healthy with any kind of formality? In the regular season you'll see IR announcements that indicate they're healthy, but in the playoffs why tip your hand when there's no roster limits?

Exactly. All we know is when a player is inserted into the lineup. No one gets any information other than this. I find it a bit funny everyone seems to think that MP was actually a healthy scratch sitting there at a 100% in the PB. Based on his proclamation and then the media reporting it as established fact.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Exactly. All we know is when a player is inserted into the lineup. No one gets any information other than this. I find it a bit funny everyone seems to think that MP was actually a healthy scratch sitting there at a 100% in the PB. Based on his proclamation and then the media reporting it as established fact.

Find then. Play Roslovic. Play Marko Dano. Both are objectively superior to Matt Hendricks. Neither are injured. Sorry, but I'm going to trust what the beat writer for the local sports team has to say on the day of a game, especially about player status. Maurice has the final word, but there are a number of tells that these beat writers recognise.

 

[Ducky10]

Who? Bonino and...?

(There was more than one team that wanted more from their best players.)

No kidding, did Johansen, Forsberg, Arvidsson evem dress tonight?

Largely invisible, although much of that came from being neutered by their own coach.

 

[Whileee]

My main point is that no one knows the health situation of players and everyone acts like everyone is 100% and Maurice has a full healthy arsenal to choose from. There is so much hidden from us and the media at this time of year and you add in MP's tendency to speak out of turn at the real truth is more likely he is not yet ready as much as he wants to be.

Even if Perreault isn't ready to go, I'd much rather 52 or 56 in that slot. They can play in a fast-paced game. 15 can't.

Are you at all concerned by the low usage of Morrissey and Trouba tonight? Myers played more than both of them. Given how Myers played, that's an extremely puzzling decision. I am hoping that these sorts of decisions are not repeated continuously through the rest of the series, because I think it will hamper the Jets chances of winning.

 

[KingBogo]

Oh, but I suppose because they aren't official team sources, you're going to disregard them as well.

Yup. All I see is MP saying is was ready and cleared, and the media reporting it based on what he said.

 

[DharmaBum]

As long as we stick together we will be fine.

Mmmmmm, waffles *Homer Simpson drool*

 

[None]

Yup. All I see is MP saying is was ready and cleared, and the media reporting it based on what he said.

Maurice also said that anyone in a regular jersey was an option tonight. Could be gamesmanship, but it's not a good look if Perreault was healthy enough to play.

 

[AlphaLackey]

I just don't get it either. It is like some people have never watched the NHL playoffs before. Every year the eventual winner has great games, a few games where they hung on by the skin of their teeth and games the just plain got out played. No one wins 16 straight. No one wins without fighting through a ton of adversity. Going into the playoffs I knew we would bounce from posters claiming we were the greatest team on the face of the earth fallowed by games where we are proclaimed to be a pile of s*** and we have no chance. I just keep trusting the Jets are far more resilient than some of their fans.

Moneypuck updated their playoff predictions website. A perfect and fitting denouement to hours of fatalistic hysteria. Like whoa holy shit we're the underdogs this series IT'S ALL OVER yeah you know what, I'll take my chances.

 

[bustamente]

Jets have the players and the team speed to break the barricade at the Predators line, but they have to commit to the fore check and it was simply not there tonight.

 

[KingBogo]

Even if Perreault isn't ready to go, I'd much rather 52 or 56 in that slot. They can play in a fast-paced game. 15 can't.

Are you at all concerned by the low usage of Morrissey and Trouba tonight? Myers played more than both of them. Given how Myers played, that's an extremely puzzling decision. I am hoping that these sorts of decisions are not repeated continuously through the rest of the series, because I think it will hamper the Jets chances of winning.

Not disagreeing with you I just find the whole argument that MP was held out as a healthy scratch far from believable. The most logical explanation is a guy known for talking off script jumped the gun because he is anxious to play and had the reigns pulled back behind the scenes.

 

[Whileee]

To be fair to Maurice, the usage of the d-men is on Huddy not him. He probably shouldn't be getting the blame for the D deployment. I doubt what we saw tonight happens again next game, that part was an aberration rather than a pattern.

Can't make those blunders in the midst of a crucial playoff home game.

 

[ffh]

ehlers is going to be stealing money next year.

 

[surixon]

Can't make those blunders in the midst of a crucial playoff home game.

Yup, I had noticed that Ben and Tyler where deployed in a faceoff against the Johansen line in the third and where quickly changed after. Huddy or whoever didn't even realize who the opposition put on the ice and had to scramble after. You really can't make those mistakes especially when you have last change.

 

[Ducky10]

Even if Perreault isn't ready to go, I'd much rather 52 or 56 in that slot. They can play in a fast-paced game. 15 can't.

Are you at all concerned by the low usage of Morrissey and Trouba tonight? Myers played more than both of them. Given how Myers played, that's an extremely puzzling decision. I am hoping that these sorts of decisions are not repeated continuously through the rest of the series, because I think it will hamper the Jets chances of winning.

Myers was dreadful tonight, slow to make reads, poor passing, poor execution with the puck all over the ice, horrible gaps, turned over the puck countless times.

Absolute crime he played more than Trouba, astonishing really. Can't happen again, he simply can't handle it.

 

[KingBogo]

Maurice also said that anyone in a regular jersey was an option tonight. Could be gamesmanship, but it's not a good look if Perreault was healthy enough to play.

And he said earlier in the series that Wiebe was a game time decision. Kulikov also skated in a full contact jersey and was far from being able to skate close to full speed and could hardly shoot the puck. We are just not used to the playoff gamesmanship that we are starting to see. Hopefully a couple years down the line this type of s*** starts becoming old hat and we can enjoy it along the way.

 

[None]

Maurice might want injured players to be knocking on his door and able to skate in every optional skate, the same way that Laine did when he was chasing Ovi for the Rocket after blocking a shot with his foot. He's said it himself though, in the playoffs it's not about being 100%, it's about being able to play through your ailments.

I struggle to see how a player like Perreault could be a liability if he's saying he's ready to play.

 

[Ducky10]

Jets have the players and the team speed to break the barricade at the Predators line, but they have to commit to the fore check and it was simply not there tonight.

Support, rèads and spacing were all off. They completely lost their rythym after the 1st and then got impatient after going down 2. Thought Scheifele and Wheeler in particular forced things. Little was ahout the only guy understanding what they needed to do.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Maurice also said that anyone in a regular jersey was an option tonight. Could be gamesmanship, but it's not a good look if Perreault was healthy enough to play.

That's the biggest reason why I'm upset about it. Fine - Frenchie declares himself medically able, even though he's not fully fit yet. A local scribe says he's been medically cleared, despite the club not making any announcements whatsoever. Paul Maurice said anyone not in a yellow jersey was an option tonight. Well, look at that - Frenchie's in the regular Jets jersey. All of this tells me that he is good to go, and should have played tonight.

And he said earlier in the series that Wiebe was a game time decision. Kulikov also skated in a full contact jersey and was far from being able to skate close to full speed and could hardly shoot the puck. We are just not used to the playoff gamesmanship that we are starting to see. Hopefully a couple years down the line this type of s*** starts becoming old hat and we can enjoy it along the way.

Maybe we'll grow and mature along with Paul Maurice. He has as much experience in the playoffs as we do.

 

[BrokerD]

Go whine about all the meanies in the safe space thread. The coaching staff gave us no advantages that we had available. We lost a winnable game.

The thing I can't understand is Roslo had his best game of the PO on Tuesday IMO. Pomo did the same thing the last time Roslo had a great game against the Blackhawks... sat him the very next game. Hindsight is 20/20 but tonight's trap game could really of used some speed.

 

[pucka lucka]

Ehlers was a terrible linemate for against that trap.

 

[Coach]

Correct but it was still the wrong move IMO

I get it we all hate to lose but Preds are a great team and they were going to find a way to win tonight one way or the other. They got the bounces and their coach laid out the right game plan. Hard to say how all this is going to play out now but this feels like it has 7 games written all over it.

Tonight it was Nashville’s turn to draw blood. Nobody said this was going to be easy. Welcome to playoff hockey against the presidents trophy winner.

Funny Pittsburgh has made it look easy in the second round of the playoffs against the Presidents Trophy winner the last couple of years.

 

[pucka lucka]

The thing I can't understand is Roslo had his best game of the PO on Tuesday IMO. Pomo did the same thing the last time Roslo had a great game against the Blackhawks... sat him the very next game. Hindsight is 20/20 but tonight's trap game could really of used some speed.

It wasn't hindsight. Many/most of us had major concerns going I to the game. PoMo made a mess of that game.