The Cates arbitration filing was a head scratcher until now. He did the Flyers a solid by filing so they could buy out TDA. Seems premeditated vs. coincidental. Now, if the Flyers retain a significant chunk of salary on a player who gets moved in a three way trade, we will recoup more assets than if we had to move TDA. Don’t count Carolina out as a trade partner.
Confirmed with Link: Tony DeAngelo on unconditional waivers in second buyout window.
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BernieParent
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Thanks, dead. I'll agree that DeAngelo could have been valuable but at a far less price than a) trading picks for his rights (much less a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th) or b) signing him for 2 x $5 million. Fletcher ignored the patently obvious and hoped against hope others could make up for DeAngelo's deficiencies, and no one else challenged him on his poor assumption.
The benchings and public statements are damaging because they show that the team is desperate to move the player, which is far different a bargaining position than him being simply not doing enough to keep getting regular ice time. This is the detriment of publicly praising Tortorella and reinforcing his high contribution to roster decisions. The NHL already knows that he demands his way be followed so for a GM to wilfully align himself with Tortorella's demands means that he has little to no negotiation room.
freakydallas13
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He wasn't a bad gamble, only 98% of the average Joe's on this board predicted he would crash and burn. Not a bad gamble though!
ajgoal
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He wasn't a bad gamble if the Flyers signed him for $1 million for one year, tried to pump up his value, and then sell him for assets to someone gullible.
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Not if, but when*I kind of want to see what happens if TDA signs with the Canes, and scores at goal against the Flyers now
wankstifier
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Who's the next DeAngelo? Feel like they're going to bite on someone in year 2 or 3 of the "rebuild"
FlyerNutter
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Lot of D available for Jones to fondle himself over next year.
Brodie, Martinez, Forsling, Montour, Toews, Barrie, Hanifin, Tanev. Klingberg. Pesce. Skjei.
Some of these are decent players but imo it’s far too early to be going after FA - especially as all are basically going to be 30+.
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kudymen
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Well, the clean-out is well underway.
And while I do not expect any news from this quarter, I'd be happy to hear of any or all of Holmgren, Clarke, Barber and Lombardi being sent home. Their advice over the last few years has been either poor, or absent, in light of the numerous mis-steps taken by this organization.
And while I do not expect any news from this quarter, I'd be happy to hear of any or all of Holmgren, Clarke, Barber and Lombardi being sent home. Their advice over the last few years has been either poor, or absent, in light of the numerous mis-steps taken by this organization.
Rich Nixon
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Devon Toews is gonna get like $8m+ on his next deal. Maybe even more.
Get your money for nothing and your racism for free.
kudymen
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Now I can't get that riff out of my head. Thanks.
Now you know what it was like to be alive in the 80s. You're welcome.
ajgoal
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That's a member of our team supergroup.
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Holy s*** are you kidding me? You're sticking with this?!?
How do you say he was a good player to gamble on in a buy low situation, then follow it by saying Fletcher bought HIGH, and *still* maintain TDA wasn't a bad gamble?
That means he was a BAD GAMBLE
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This actually seems impossible. If we had a sleeper agent from a division rival as GM, he couldn't have f***ed it up more.
GKJ
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Thought Schlemko should’ve gotten a shot.
We also acquired Sam Gagner thinking he would be bought out.
JojoTheWhale
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I think what he’s trying to say is that Fletcher thought he was buying low because a completely rehabbed DeAngelo would be worth more than they paid. In essence, he’s divorcing the evaluation from the trade.
I’ve personally used a similar argument to say that Daniel Jones was the correct pick at 6OA, but that’s only because their evaluation of him was absurd. You do not pass on what you think is a franchise QB. You don’t get cute and try to manipulate the board. You take him.
Yes, I agree that’s even more damning of Fletcher.
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I think what he’s trying to say is that Fletcher thought he was buying low because a completely rehabbed DeAngelo would be worth more than they paid. In essence, he’s divorcing the evaluation from the trade.
I’ve personally used a similar argument to say that Daniel Jones was the correct pick at 6OA, but that’s only because their evaluation of him was absurd. You do not pass on what you think is a franchise QB. You don’t get cute and try to manipulate the board. You take him.
Yes, I agree that’s even more damning of Fletcher.
And every time you bring this up I get mad that I have to totally agree with it, haha.
freakydallas13
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Who was that player we acquired and almost immediately he decided he would rather play in Europe than for this team and took off?
kudymen
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Striiker
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The only reason they thought they needed to take a gamble on TDA is because they traded away a superior, cheaper, defensemen for negative value the year before.
Fletcher was a truly stupid individual.
Fletcher was a truly stupid individual.
Larry44
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Lukas Sedlak. Came back from Europe to play for Avs. They put him on waivers, Flyers claimed him and he quit, IIRC, didn’t want to play for Torts again. Might have some deets wrong, he was always irrelevant.
Sedlak released by Flyers after request, will play in Czech Republic
Larry44
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Paid to trade Ghost, paid dearly to replace him. Fletcher was a complete disaster.The only reason they thought they needed to take a gamble on TDA is because they traded away a superior, cheaper, defensemen for negative value the year before.
Fletcher was a truly stupid individual.
