Rumor: Tony DeAngelo being traded back to Carolina next month but he also could not be.

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What's driving the train on TDA is what you all complain about, a veteran blocking prospects.

When they added Walker, a veteran RHD who should have significant value at the TDA given he'll now be two years past ACL surgery, and still put up xCFrel + 0.50, xGFrel +1.40 last year (albeit in a sheltered, 3rd pair role), second best among starting Kings D-men, TDA became superfluous.

While Walker and Seeler are best suited to 3rd pair roles, Walker will probably pair with York or Zamula to start the season, depending on what happens with Sanheim. Risto will pair with Sanheim or Zamula, and Seeler with Attard/Grans. The wildcard is Andrae, especially if he has to return to the SHL if he doesn't make the team.

So fitting in TDA would be difficult, you could try him with York and maybe that would work, or Seeler, which did work in a 3rd pair role.
But you want York to be the PP1 QB - remember, this is a rebuild?
So there is little reason to bring TDA back, for one thing, Walker is more likely to have TDL value, how many veteran D-men do you want to start?
And Walker will be a much better partner/mentor for young LHDs like Zamula and Andrae.

I think they'll buy out TDA if they can't work out a deal, but since the retention slot is regained after the season, and there is no other contract for which they'll need one this summer, it's not a big deal. They're not going to want to retain for 2 years with TK, or 3 with Laughton. Nor will they need to, those are below market contracts, at worse, you take a smaller contract in return.

No. What driving the trade is Tortorella hating him.

This team is the same thing it always was. They aren't doing anything to deliberately cater to prospects. These people never will. We are going to watch a rebuild from a group that can't develop or trust young players.

It's why any real, actual rebuild begins with firing the whole front office and starting from scratch. Anything else is spinning wheels.
 
Torts likes Zamula. Likes his IQ and presence. It's time for him to start.

Attard is the prototype RHD, big, mobile, great shot, they gave him a year in the AHL to work on fundamentals, they'll want to give Shaw a chance to refine them.

Ginning and Grans are the long-shots, they'll probably pair together in the AHL (the Swedish connection) and get promoted after the TDL.
Andrae is the wild card, depends on whether they can keep him in the AHL, though another year starting in the SHL won't kill him.

Tortorella does not like Zamula. If he did, he would have played in any of the near-infinite opportunities he had to play him .
 
I don’t think he’s a deterrent. For as many people hate him, the same amount love him, prob more love him.

I just doubt Krug wants to come sit on a rebuilding team.

I don't think that's true given everything we've ever heard about his last three coaching gigs, which feature two full-team revolts and more angry players than happy ones.
 
Nevermind. Maybe Fletcher was right that trades *are* hard.

What the f*** is taking so long. Why do we know details of a trade that hasn't even happened (and may not happen) 16 hours later?
 
Rizzo is a good possibility, ranked 14th among Carolina prospects by Wheeler, U of Denver.
22, LH, 5'11 174 (probably at 18), #216-2019
sophomore season, 38g 17-29 46 +24

Red Wings prospect Carter Mazur is the Pioneers forward that gets the most attention and buzz, but Rizzo quietly capped off an excellent freshman season last year with points in both of the Frozen Four games (on Mazur’s line) to help them to a national championship and he has returned to become the team’s leading points producer as a sophomore (albeit a 21-year-old one) due to the pandemic and time spent marinating in the BCHL. He’s an incredibly smart player who understands how to facilitate and use spacing when the puck’s on his stick and where to go without the puck. He’s also a decent skater, a competitor and a diligent two-way player considering his average(ish) size. The Pioneers are better when he’s out there this year and while I’m not sure if he’s got NHL upside, he should get signed out of college and become a good AHL player at minimum. Not bad for the second-last pick of the 2019 draft!
 
Rizzo is a good possibility, ranked 14th among Carolina prospects by Wheeler, U of Denver.
22, LH, 5'11 174 (probably at 18), #216-2019
sophomore season, 38g 17-29 46 +24

Red Wings prospect Carter Mazur is the Pioneers forward that gets the most attention and buzz, but Rizzo quietly capped off an excellent freshman season last year with points in both of the Frozen Four games (on Mazur’s line) to help them to a national championship and he has returned to become the team’s leading points producer as a sophomore (albeit a 21-year-old one) due to the pandemic and time spent marinating in the BCHL. He’s an incredibly smart player who understands how to facilitate and use spacing when the puck’s on his stick and where to go without the puck. He’s also a decent skater, a competitor and a diligent two-way player considering his average(ish) size. The Pioneers are better when he’s out there this year and while I’m not sure if he’s got NHL upside, he should get signed out of college and become a good AHL player at minimum. Not bad for the second-last pick of the 2019 draft!

He's small.

And what you've described is the kind of player the Flyers hate. Think more along the lines of a 10-12 goal PK specialist.
 
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Are any of these guys interesting?
 
Hope this falls apart terrible deal by Briere if its 50% retention and were getting a D level prospect just boggles my mind how stupid some organizations (mainly our org lol)... If it was multiple years left i'd get it but we have no D he's not holding up anyone's ice time makes no Friggen sense to dump him for less than nothing with one yr left on his deal... Play him were going to be terrible this year anyway he will likely help lol
 
Hope this falls apart terrible deal by Briere if its 50% retention and were getting a D level prospect just boggles my mind how stupid some organizations (mainly our org lol)... If it was multiple years left i'd get it but we have no D he's not holding up anyone's ice time makes no Friggen sense to dump him for less than nothing with one yr left on his deal... Play him were going to be terrible this year anyway he will likely help lol
Nah, Angelo actively hurts the team by being here so get him TFO.
 
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