Rumor: Tony DeAngelo being traded back to Carolina next month but he also could not be.

[Deadpool8812]

Wrong thread

 

[FLYguy3911]

TDA 50% retained + Tuomaala for Koivunen.

 

[Rich Nixon]

I don't see how retaining is worth any more than buying out honestly

 

[BritainStix]

Between retaining on TDA for basically nothing and throwing in players with Hayes to minimize return, the sheen is quickly starting to wear off any hope I had of Briere being different.

You have no idea what the return is on either trade. Takes like this are just straight up stupid.

 

[kudymen]

"You dont have to retain on every single move"

Yeah, lets do that on the shittiest value guy though during a rebuild with seemingly high turnaround.

 

[Flyer lurker]

2 yrs,2.6 per with Panthers.

If ghost would go to Florida in this type of deal, then Krug sure wont be traded to Florida for 6.75m.

 

[Curufinwe]

I don’t mind retaining on Angelo.

I wish one of the picks was coming back.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

As GKJ was attempting to tell a brick wall last night, retaining prevents flexibility the rest of the season. Just as having 50 contracts this past season prevented them for making a claim on someone like Tolvanen while they had Bellows was bad. They’ll instead be wasting a second retention spot knowing that Hayes is going to be the third to save negligible cap space which is bad.

I get it though, every thing this organization does has to be defended and the options in front of us are the only ones to ever exist.

 

[Redpath]

Hayes and DeAngelo would be two retention slots. There is no third retention slot currently being used by the Flyers.

Cap savings being negligible is nonsense. We don't know who or what we can broker this summer/season with those cap savings.

Retaining on DeAngelo is an indirect way to add an asset this summer/deadline via saved cap space without a long-term commitment to using a retainment slot in another deal (Such as a Provorov type deal). I prefer that flexibility, others may not.

Not everything needs to be bashed merely because this board wants to complain.

 

[Flybynite]

I have absolutely no problem using a retention slot on TDA, as long as the value in using that is actually worth it. I'll have someone who follows and remembers or records to more accurately say more definitively than me whether it's worth it or not

Based on 3-team/multi-team trades where a team picked up a player specifically to act as the 'retention slot bridge' and then what that team got as compensation for doing so. I think the rumored compensation for TDA would seem to lean heavily towards 'not enuf return' in this case.

That 'retention slot bridge thing' I think is the best way to state the value of a retention slot/salary sucked up situation.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Hayes and DeAngelo would be two retention slots. There is no third retention slot currently being used by the Flyers.

Cap savings being negligible is nonsense. We don't know who or what we can broker this summer/season with those cap savings.

Retaining on DeAngelo is an indirect way to add an asset this summer/deadline via saved cap space without a long-term commitment to using a retainment slot. I prefer that flexibility, others may not.

Not everything needs to be bashed merely because this board wants to complain.

I did forget that Provorov is on the Kings books but the point is still the same. If you’re going to trade him for the sake of trading him and don’t really care about the prospect/return it’s better to just buy him out with where the team is.

98% of things this organization does needs to be bashed though.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Insiders scrambling.

 

[Starat327]

@Hollywood Cannon can i take a victory lap?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

But wait, I thought it was supposed to get done today!

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

@Hollywood Cannon can i take a victory lap?

Not yet.

 

[bennysflyers16]

But wait, I thought it was supposed to get done today!

Jones leaking all this to his pals appears to be backfiring. This organization is a dumpster fire.

 

[GKJ]

But wait, I thought it was supposed to get done today!

Stay tuned

 

[LegionOfGloom]

Insiders scrambling.

Guarantee the snag is that the prospect was a college player and he refused to sign with the Flyers. Because that's where we're at.

 

[Flybynite]

Live look at the TDA and Hayes trades.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Well that stinks

 

[LegionOfGloom]

Well that stinks

Disagree. It's now clear they won't have him back under any circumstances. With that in mind, just waiving him is better than this rumored deal since I'd rather keep the retention spot. So hopefully that's exactly what they do now.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

As GKJ was attempting to tell a brick wall last night, retaining prevents flexibility the rest of the season. Just as having 50 contracts this past season prevented them for making a claim on someone like Tolvanen while they had Bellows was bad. They’ll instead be wasting a second retention spot knowing that Hayes is going to be the third to save negligible cap space which is bad.

I get it though, every thing this organization does has to be defended and the options in front of us are the only ones to ever exist.

is it fair to say that whenever they trade Tony D they were likely retaining on him? So if yes does it really matter if it is now or in 6 months?

Mind you I wouldn't trade him just yet if you are getting nothing back as rather wait to see if you get a pick down the line. It is clear the coach is driving this train on this particular move as he wants him gone.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Players not wanting to play for Torts, shocked I say.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

is it fair to say that whenever they trade Tony D they were likely retaining on him? So if yes does it really matter if it is now or in 6 months?

Mind you I wouldn't trade him just yet if you are getting nothing back as rather wait to see if you get a pick down the line. It is clear the coach is driving this train on this particular move as he wants him gone.

At this point he’s 100% gone though. He’s not going to be on the team come the regular season so they could buy him out now if they really want him gone.

In a perfect world where the coach wasn’t a manchild and could work with people he didn’t see eye to eye with, yes, moving TDA was always going to be a retention deal even if it was at the Trade Deadline.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

At this point he’s 100% gone though. He’s not going to be on the team come the regular season so they could buy him out now if they really want him gone.

In a perfect world where the coach wasn’t a manchild and could work with people he didn’t see eye to eye with, yes, moving TDA was always going to be a retention deal even if it was at the Trade Deadline.

if the return is basically nothing, then yes a buy out makes more sense. Lets see the return.