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Rumor: Tony DeAngelo being traded back to Carolina next month but he also could not be.

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Yeah, not looking good. Hopefully one of the teams that miss on Karlsson pivot to DeAngelo since the Flyers appear willing to retain salary, but I'm sure there's several franchises that have him black listed, so I'm not very hopeful on any sort of return for him. It does feel like Carolina or bust.
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Karlsson on Carolina would be deadly. Hopefully someone needs a RHD like TDA.
 
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TDA would be a 3rd D-man for the Canes, Karlsson a 1D, so one doesn't preclude the other.
 
Rizzo would be a good pickup, similar to Desnoyers, he has the upside of a top bottom six guy (don't scoff, people don't want to play stiffs in the bottom six, then you have to develop and pay solid players to fill out the roster). Wheeler in January:

14. Massimo Rizzo, C, 21 (University of Denver)​

Red Wings prospect Carter Mazur is the Pioneers forward that gets the most attention and buzz, but Rizzo quietly capped off an excellent freshman season last year with points in both of the Frozen Four games (on Mazur’s line) to help them to a national championship and he has returned to become the team’s leading points producer as a sophomore (albeit a 21-year-old one) due to the pandemic and time spent marinating in the BCHL. He’s an incredibly smart player who understands how to facilitate and use spacing when the puck’s on his stick and where to go without the puck. He’s also a decent skater, a competitor and a diligent two-way player considering his average(ish) size. The Pioneers are better when he’s out there this year and while I’m not sure if he’s got NHL upside, he should get signed out of college and become a good AHL player at minimum. Not bad for the second-last pick of the 2019 draft!
 
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Still holding out hope that the reason the deal isn't done is that the Flyers are offering their services to help facilitate Karlsson to CAR for additional assets, and maybe TDA would end up in SJ at the end of that process. (Also kind of think it'd be funny for the Canes to add Lemieux and then send TDA a couple thousand miles away as part of acquiring the best version of him, but that's neither here nor there.)
 
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Still holding out hope that the reason the deal isn't done is that the Flyers are offering their services to help facilitate Karlsson to CAR for additional assets, and maybe TDA would end up in SJ at the end of that process. (Also kind of think it'd be funny for the Canes to add Lemieux and then send TDA a couple thousand miles away as part of acquiring the best version of him, but that's neither here nor there.)
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That's interesting but four years is a long time to retain on Karlsson.

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Carolina gets Karlsson at $6,440,000 for four years

Flyers get Rizzo, 2024 2nd (PHI) & 2025 3rd from Carolina, and retain 30% on Karlsson

SJ get DeAngelo, 2024 1st & 2024 2nd from Carolina, and retain 20% on Karlsson

To get under the cap, Carolina will need to also trade Skej or Pesce for picks.
 
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TDA would be a 3rd D-man for the Canes, Karlsson a 1D, so one doesn't preclude the other.
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Yeah, if the Canes got salary retention on both Karlsson and DeAngelo I guess they could get both under the salary cap. I was thinking it'd be one or the other. It still might be smart for the Canes to just pick either Karlsson or DeAngelo though, because both could turn out being a little redundant.
 
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