Tkachuk traded to Florida

[PanthersHockey1]

One thing is for sure between cousins and tkachuk we are going to be a nasty team to play against.

We are transitioning from one of the softest teams to one of the meanest no doubt.

 

[pb1300]

I hope you're doing ok pb.

First day SUCKED. Headache was a bitch. No fever. Sweating like crazy though. Chest and back pain and congestion. Went to the hospital that night. They said all the symptoms were normal. My blood oxygen was a little low, and x-ray showed I had some soreness in my lungs. So I’m on Paxlovid for the next 3 days still. Feeling better even before the pills, but will take them anyways cause this virus is crazy.

 

[CaptainScrewy]

I mean, wow. Love Huberdeau but this is a great deal. I am guessing Zito offered Huberdeau the same deal; they obviously wouldn't sign and wanted above 10 million; when he found out Tkachuk would take the deal, he put in a Weegar who has been exposed for his flaws and also wants an inflated contract due to being on such an offensive team and having good stats.

Love it. Tkachuk doesn't have a lot (ANY???) comparables that are as good as him and is exactly what this team was lacking in the playoffs. The dude scored 42 goals and over 100 points as a defensive, pesky winger. Like, come on. Panthers have been wanting that since our inception. And he is 24 and a Panther for a long time now.

 

[violaswallet]

I’m not super happy with the cap situation: 52 and 11 for MT makes sense if we are incorporating contract demands but our D is significantly weaker now.

I’ll wait to see until I judge. It’s a big contrarian move but puts us in a tough sitiuation with moving Bob in a few years

 

[GermanPanther]

What the difference between TBL and FLA current. TBL still holding a 2015 1st round pick.
What Zito did is the same like other teams did, getting younger, but not with a 3-5 rebuild more during the normal Hockey years. Like Tampa did and some other PO teams, useing their Picks for trades.

 

[Mogo]

What I still cant wrap my head around is why did we have to give Weaver too or the pick. Why not just one? We didnt even dump Hornqvist.

We could traded Weaver for other assests

Why I feel like Huby wont re-sign with Flames. Let's face it. Huby loves his cars and warm weather.
Weaver will if given enough money

 

[Dread Clawz]

First day SUCKED. Headache was a bitch. No fever. Sweating like crazy though. Chest and back pain and congestion. Went to the hospital that night. They said all the symptoms were normal. My blood oxygen was a little low, and x-ray showed I had some soreness in my lungs. So I’m on Paxlovid for the next 3 days still. Feeling better even before the pills, but will take them anyways cause this virus is crazy.

Man that sounds awful. Yeah I've been lucky so far, and for awhile I was taking public trans. a lot so I know I've been exposed to it multiple times. It seems like it's just one of those random freak things. I'm glad you're on the up and up.

 

[batting1k]

What I still cant wrap my head around is why did we have to give Weaver too or the pick. Why not just one? We didnt even dump Hornqvist.

We could traded Weaver for other assests

Why I feel like Huby wont re-sign with Flames. Let's face it. Huby loves his cars and warm weather.
Weaver will if given enough money

It’s much more complicated than we’ll know.

I highly doubt the Flames went to Zito - a long-time player agent and assistant GM - and was just like “hey can we uh have Weegar too haha” and Zito was just like “yeah sure, take him!”

 

[ShootIt]

I’m sure other teams had some big offers too. Wasn’t like Matt only said he’ll go here.

 

[Dread Clawz]

One thing is for sure between cousins and tkachuk we are going to be a nasty team to play against.

We are transitioning from one of the softest teams to one of the meanest no doubt.

Yup, Zito is on a mission that's for sure. I think he's identified that Barkov, Huby, and Ek are all "soft" leaders, and he's tried to surround with gamers to support them. Jury is still out on Ek to me though, he hasn't had much chance to show himself the last two playoffs.

 

[batting1k]

Remember, this is probably the only chance Huberdeau and Weegar will have to cash in big. They’ve always come across to me as guys that like their money. It wouldn’t have surprised me one bit if we fought hard for them but they pushed for a little more, especially with Walsh as Huby’s agent.

 

[Thomas Colavecchio]

I don't think that's necessarily true. If you watch his interviews around draft time, he gets really excited. He's just more an out of the box thinker GM than we've ever had.


Yeah if Huby was stuck on 10M, and Weegs like 6.5+, then there's no doubt we had to make this trade.

Any draft is not just about the Round 1 picks, but as much about overall Organizational and position depth. Especially when the team isdrafting toward the end of the Round, as they very well expect to be.

Obviously, the lower the round the percentage of a prospect making it to the League lessens; but it does happen ( see Weegar as that fairly rare example).

But to me, it seems Zito is convinced that in looking for players with prior NHL experience, wanting a second opportunity in the "Show" and willing to sign 'prove it type short term deals, is a better and faster way to get that 'ELC contract value mix' into the Roster's CAP!

And, just maybe in the process, he stumbles upon another Verehaeghe or Duclair

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

What I still cant wrap my head around is why did we have to give Weaver too or the pick.

Because Huby has very little value in comparison to Chuck. Zito was unloading guys he couldn't and didn't want to keep around.

Value-wise the Panthers gave up three top5-10 first rounds picks + Schwindt for Chuck.

 

[Dread Clawz]

It’s much more complicated than we’ll know.

I highly doubt the Flames went to Zito - a long-time player agent and assistant GM - and was just like “hey can we uh have Weegar too haha” and Zito was just like “yeah sure, take him!”

Plus Huby isn't gonna re-sign with Calgary let's face it. You're not gonna get 8 years of Chucky for a rental Huby. Much more had to be added.

 

[batting1k]

Remember when Tallon wouldn’t trade Borgstrom for McDonagh?

 

[Dread Clawz]

Any draft is not just about the Round 1 picks, but as much about overall Organizational and position depth. Especially when the team isdrafting toward the end of the Round, as they very well expect to be.

Obviously, the lower the round the percentage of a prospect making it to the League lessens; but it does happen ( see Weegar as that fairly rare example).

But to me, it seems Zito is convinced that in looking for players with prior NHL experience, wanting a second opportunity in the "Show" and willing to sign 'prove it type short term deals, is a better and faster way to get that 'ELC contract value mix' into the Roster's CAP!

And, just maybe in the process, he stumbles upon another Verehaeghe or Duclair

Yup, all picks are important. Chances are very slim, we'll hit on another Weegar, but it's a chance. It's better than no chance. Even 1st rounders are no guarantee, look at all the 1st rounders that were bought out/not qualified this summer. Borgstrom, Steel, Milano, Fleury.

But I also mean that Zito does feel 1st rounders are valuable. I'd put good money down that he recoups some 2nds, 3rs, prospects, and even maybe a 1st from Reino/Bennett, Duke, and potentially Montour before their contracts expire.

 

[Egblad]

Zito is a wild man lol.

Remember everyone melting down on FA day about Zito not doing anything? Zito: HMB.

 

[batting1k]

Zito is a wild man lol.

Remember everyone melting down on FA day about Zito not doing anything? Zito: HMB.

Some of the same people were bouncing off the walls when he traded Emil Heineman and a 2nd round pick for Bennett.

 

[pb1300]

Remember, this is probably the only chance Huberdeau and Weegar will have to cash in big. They’ve always come across to me as guys that like their money. It wouldn’t have surprised me one bit if we fought hard for them but they pushed for a little more, especially with Walsh as Huby’s agent.

Weegar was always a problem when it came to contract negotiations. Im glad he’s gone.

 

[Egblad]

With Weegar gone, who's our new whipping boy? Back to Bob maybe? Gudas if he loses a step?

 

[batting1k]

Weegar was always a problem when it came to contract negotiations. Im glad he’s gone.

That’s what I like about Zito. He’s been an agent for a long time and he knows that side of it. He’s not going to get screwed over with contracts.

 

[CaptainScrewy]

Wonder if Bennet could be somehow we look at moving? Opens up cap space, maybe regain some futures and a solid D somewhere?

 

[batting1k]

Wonder if Bennet could be somehow we look at moving? Opens up cap space, maybe regain some futures and a solid D somewhere?

That would be a terrible and high unlikely move imo.

 

[pantherbot]

I’m not super happy with the cap situation: 52 and 11 for MT makes sense if we are incorporating contract demands but our D is significantly weaker now.

I’ll wait to see until I judge. It’s a big contrarian move but puts us in a tough sitiuation with moving Bob in a few years

Not sure what you mean by this unless you're strictly talking about the upcoming season only.

Zito just fixed a lot of potential cap problems for 2023 and beyond by not signing Huber and Weegs to big contracts while also locking in a league-wide top young player at a value contract.

He just extended our cap competitive window from like 1-2 years to 8 years.

 

[batting1k]

Watching highlights, Tkachuk looks to me like a hybrid of Reinhart and Marchment/Bennett.