Tim Stutzle vs Auston Matthews Contracts Included

[dirtydanglez]

Yep after rebuilding for 14 years of not making the playoffs, making it once in a 48 game season. Matthew’s was their 5th pick in the top 7 overall. Sens have a ways to go before matching the 14 years.

6 picks in the top 7 if you want to include the 2nd overall pick they traded. they did use it on an asset after all. then you have nylander at 8th overall and hamilton at 9th overall (traded) if you look at top 10 picks.

 

[blundluntman]

It's not even remotely certain that Matthews himself does anything as good as he (Matthews) did in 2022.

I'd put my money on the person that's done it before before I put it on the person that hasn't even done it once.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Ottawa needs to stay relevant in the news

 

[dirtydanglez]

Ottawa needs to stay relevant in the news

something tells me that wont be an issue this season

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Comparing their age 19-21 seasons, Matthews destroys Stutzle.

Goals: 111 - 73 (Matthews by 38 goals)
Assists: 104 - 94 (Stutzle by 10 assists)
Points: 205 - 177 (Matthews by 28 points)

+\-: +18 - -48 (Matthews by a mile)

More PP goals, more game winning goals, much better defensively, just a much better player.

This poll looks like an attempt to take Stutzle’s career year and compare him to Matthews worst career season and then bash the Leafs over a contract.

There’s no question you take Matthews at $13m all day long

Why would anyone care at this point what both players did at age 19? If you’re trying to say Matthews was better than Stutzle in each of their first years I’d agree.
But that’s not the question.
And why would you assume that Stutzle just had a career year. He seems to be following a career arc shown by many young star players.
Just a really strange post.

 

[MCR74]

I'd put my money on the person that's done it before before I put it on the person that hasn't even done it once.

Yep. lt's also not certain Stutzle will come close to Matthews' 2022 season.

 

[Ninety7]

Matthews

 

[Bouboumaster]

Matthews is the much better player until proven otherwise but he ain't 5M$ per year better IMO

Voted for Stützle

 

[ijuka]

Lol matthews has a hart lindsay and 2 Rockets the other guy?

4 more years and 5mil less per year I guess

 

[MCR74]

4 more years and 5mil less per year I guess

Which is all this thread is about.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Lol matthews has a hart lindsay and 2 Rockets the other guy?

the other guy outscored matthews.

the hart and lindsay should be mcdavids anyway.

 

[MCR74]

the other guy outscored matthews.

the hart and lindsay should be mcdavids anyway.

Outscoring Matthews, in between dives, is certainly impressive.

And it's nice to see some are still bitter about the Hart win.

 

[The90]

Probably the most truthful and factual thing you've said on this site.

Good one impatient! The best dig you’ve gotten on me on this site was expounding on a very clear joke.

Some people aren’t sensitive and can make self deprecating jokes whether true or not for a laugh. Weird concept huh? Self confidence is hard to find in some people.

 

[pown]

Matthews is better but stuetzle is way more valuable considering age and contract

 

[wetcoast]

Yep. lt's also not certain Stutzle will come close to Matthews' 2022 season.

I think that most of us can agree that Stuztle most likely will never win the Hart or Rocket right?

I doubt that AM wins another Hart but he might still win a Rocket.

 

[KevinRedkey]

I think that most of us can agree that Stuztle most likely will never win the Hart or Rocket right?

I doubt that AM wins another Hart but he might still win a Rocket.

I personally think that's a fair, and would assume the majority would agree as well.

I also think most people voting Stutzle have Matthews ranked higher going into this season.

Stutzle is still (rightfully) winning the poll though. There's more to the question than "who's better?".

 

[norrisnick]

'22 is far less important than '24 and beyond.

Huberdeau had a huge '22...

 

[Fatass]

Matthew’s. He’s a 230 pound centre who puts up 50+ goals pretty much every year. He’s great defensively too. Stutzle is a very good player but he’s not in the same tier and AM.

 

[norrisnick]

Matthew’s. He’s a 230 pound centre who puts up 50+ goals pretty much every year. He’s great defensively too. Stutzle is a very good player but he’s not in the same tier and AM.

Pretty much is doing some mighty heavy lifting considering he's scored 50+ once in 7 years. If you mean pace, say pace. But even pace is only 3 of 7 years.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Don't worry Stutzle has 5 years to fill the trophy case. He's eclipsed Matthews if you account for age.

He will not be filling any trophies with McDavid being 27 and bedard entering this season lol

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Good one impatient! The best dig you’ve gotten on me on this site was expounding on a very clear joke.

Some people aren’t sensitive and can make self deprecating jokes whether true or not for a laugh. Weird concept huh? Self confidence is hard to find in some people.

Whatever you say little guy.

 

[MCR74]

He will not be filling any trophies with McDavid being 27 and bedard entering this season lol

Maybe he should start by making the playoffs.

 

[umma gumma]

Lol at some Leaf fans making playoff jokes. The funniest thing is that is all they have to say as they've accomplished little else. Talk about a low bar.

They could learn a thing or two from Panthers fans.

 

[Strangle]

Why would anyone care at this point what both players did at age 19? If you’re trying to say Matthews was better than Stutzle in each of their first years I’d agree.
But that’s not the question.
And why would you assume that Stutzle just had a career year. He seems to be following a career arc shown by many young star players.
Just a really strange post.

What’s strange about it? The strange post is the OP only comparing their most recent season. Stutzles career year (up to this point) and Matthews worst season in record.

That’s the strange post.

If you’re inferring that Stutzle is about to become the second best player in the NHL, win consecutive rockets and a hart trophy like Matthews did at this point in his career that Stutzle is entering into, then I’d say your post is the strange one.

That isn’t what you’re inferring, is it? I think everyone already knows what Matthews accomplished between his 21 year old season and last year. Unless you need to be refreshed?

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

What’s strange about it? The strange post is the OP only comparing their most recent season. Stutzles career year (up to this point) and Matthews worst season in record.

That’s the strange post.

If you’re inferring that Stutzle is about to become the second best player in the NHL, win consecutive rockets and a hart trophy like Matthews did at this point in his career that Stutzle is entering into, then I’d say your post is the strange one.

That isn’t what you’re inferring, is it? I think everyone already knows what Matthews accomplished between his 21 year old season and last year. Unless you need to be refreshed?

Not really. Using the most recent sample isn't outlandish or out there.