Tim Stutzle vs Auston Matthews Contracts Included

[ijuka]

Stützle pacing for 107 points, Matthews for 104 points.

Of course, Matthews is pacing for 71 goals, but the point composition will probably even out somewhat for both players.

More than the points, I have to say that I've found Nylander to look far scarier on the ice than Matthews. Matthews has scored a lot, true, but when he's not been scoring, he hasn't really had nearly the presence that Nylander has.

 

[Xspyrit]

Senators were told before prior to training camp there was an investigation ongoing, and that the investigation had been ongoing for a few months.

Senators we’re told around opening night or day after, not to discuss contract anymore by the league, Pinto left town a day later.

Dorion received a lot of criticism (and as you know, I have been one of his biggest critics) but he was in a pretty hard position... he had no choice to wait and see, instead of creating cap space to sign Pinto. Maybe it saved him from trading Joseph, which would have been a big mistake as Joseph is proving to be a fantastic hockey player.

Funny enough, despite all the clowning he's getting from Leafs fans in this thread, he has a higher PPG to start the season, even if he does have far fewer goals

This and it's crazy how people underrate 5.0 M$ of cap space (or even 3.3 M$ this year), despite the league being in a massive cap crunch for a few years. It's like they assume that the only option is to waste that cap on Klingberg and Reaves

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

This and it's crazy how people underrate 5.0 M$ of cap space (or even 3.3 M$ this year), despite the league being in a massive cap crunch for a few years. It's like they assume that the only option is to waste that cap on Klingberg and Reaves

Because that's precisely what they think and can't seem to get past it.

Apparently any team with $5 million in cap space is lining up to acquire Jack Campbell and only Jack Campbell.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Because that's precisely what they think and can't seem to get past it.

Apparently any team with $5 million in cap space is lining up to acquire Jack Campbell and only Jack Campbell.

Leafs fans have gotten use to 'bargain bin' shopping because their top players eat up so much of the cap. It's their reality, but their mistake is believing it applies to everyone else.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

It's still super early, but Stutzle is again on a higher scoring pace despite only shooting at 7% vs 20% for Matthews.

I don't see much separating these two aside from their contacts and ages, both of which suggest Stutzle is the more valuable asset.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

The thing is that I would prefer to have the better 2 way center on the 1st line than the better 3rd line player.

Matthews is a two way center?

 

[Toby91ca]

Typical Leaf fan post, on pace and averages

Would you rather Matthews - 312g, 561pts vs Stutzle - 76g, 194pts?

 

[wetcoast]

Matthews is a two way center?

Sure especially compared to Stutzle which is the context of this thread.

 

[NyQuil]

Would you rather Matthews - 312g, 561pts vs Stutzle - 76g, 194pts?

I'd rather have Claude Giroux - 334 goals, 1017 points.

He's twice as good!

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I'd rather have Claude Giroux - 334 goals, 1017 points.

He's twice as good!

Matthews strives to be the best American player ever but has been outproduced nearly double by Chris Chelios, a defenseman.

What a bum.

 

[Fatass]

Matthews is a two way center?

Actually Matthews is a darned good player without the puck. I’m taking Matthews’ more complete game (and he’s a lot heavier) over Stutzle.

 

[Toby91ca]

I'd rather have Claude Giroux - 334 goals, 1017 points.

He's twice as good!

That's my point....looking at pace and averages makes sense to me instead

 

[Namikaze Minato]

It's still super early, but Stutzle is again on a higher scoring pace despite only shooting at 7% vs 20% for Matthews.

I don't see much separating these two aside from their contacts and ages, both of which suggest Stutzle is the more valuable asset.

Typical "on pace" nonsense that leafs fans like @WhiskeyYerTheDevils use every chance they get smh.

 

[HarrisonFord]

I'd rather have Claude Giroux - 334 goals, 1017 points.

He's twice as good!

Matthews: 0.63 GPG, 1.13PPG
Stutzle: 0.34 GPG, 0.87PPG
Giroux: 0.30 GPG, 0.91PPG

 

[NyQuil]

Matthews: 0.63 GPG, 1.13PPG
Stutzle: 0.34 GPG, 0.87PPG
Giroux: 0.30 GPG, 0.91PPG

Here we go with the pace arguments again.

23-24:
Stutzle: 1.31 PPG
Matthews: 1.27 PPG

Not bad for $5M cheaper.

 

[HarrisonFord]

Here we go with the pace arguments again.

23-24:
Stutzle: 1.31 PPG
Matthews: 1.27 PPG

Not bad for $5M cheaper.

Looks like a small sample size argument to me

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

This thread is massively entertaning to a fan of neither team. No sarcasm, I love it.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

This thread is massively entertaning to a fan of neither team. No sarcasm, I love it.

This thread is on pace to entertain you all season!

 

[Golden_Jet]

This thread is on pace to entertain you all season!

Well you got the “pace” part right for leaf fans.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Well you got the “pace” part right for leaf fans.

 

[NyQuil]

This thread is on pace to entertain you all season!

Imagine if you could have this thread -AND- another thread with around half the amount of posts....

 

[Xspyrit]

The results of this poll shows the massive PRO Leafs bias and ANTI Sens bias. It should be much more than a 55-45 ratio... Stutzle has been outpacing Matthews for 90+ games and makes 3.3 less this season and 5.0 less starting next season.

Stutzle is 21 y/o as we speak, of course Matthews had an advantage when Stutzle was still a teenager

Would you rather Matthews - 312g, 561pts vs Stutzle - 76g, 194pts?

I'll take someone else then! A retired player who has more goals and points and cost 0$ on the cap!

Life is so easy!

That's my point....looking at pace and averages makes sense to me instead

You were not looking at paces and averages at all though

 

[Xspyrit]

It's still super early, but Stutzle is again on a higher scoring pace despite only shooting at 7% vs 20% for Matthews.

I don't see much separating these two aside from their contacts and ages, both of which suggest Stutzle is the more valuable asset.

Some things a Leafs fan just told me somewhere else :

You're forgetting that Matthews is better than both Stuzle and Draisaitl....

Heck, I'm friends with Sens fans and even they admit that it would take Tkachuk+Stuzle to get the conversation going about Matthews... So your delusional a*s can stop talking rn

Matthews>>>>Stuzle


But hey, I am delusional

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Some things a Leafs fan just told me somewhere else :

You're forgetting that Matthews is better than both Stuzle and Draisaitl....

Heck, I'm friends with Sens fans and even they admit that it would take Tkachuk+Stuzle to get the conversation going about Matthews... So your delusional a*s can stop talking rn

Matthews>>>>Stuzle


But hey, I am delusional

I dont get it, how does other people being delusional absolve you?

If someone were to go to a psychiatrist and they diagnose you as being delusional I dont think they would accept the response of "I cant be delusional, those other people over there are delusional and I dont think like them!"

Sounds like youre being delusional about your delusion.

 

[The90]

Leafs fans have gotten use to 'bargain bin' shopping because their top players eat up so much of the cap. It's their reality, but their mistake is believing it applies to everyone else.

It’s rich getting petty comment from sens fans when the leafs have been a far better team, while also being able to sign their 3c. The sens can’t say the same