Player Discussion Tim Stützle - L̶W̶/C - Part V

[Sting]

I'm the guys biggest fan but his development definitely hasn't progressed. I'm more worried about or team's ability to develop players. We have a lot of guys who just hit a wall and nobody can really progress to true star level.

Better coaching would help Tim I think.

 

[Korpse]

I'm the guys biggest fan but his development definitely hasn't progressed. I'm more worried about or team's ability to develop players. We have a lot of guys who just hit a wall and nobody can really progress to true star level.

Better coaching would help Tim I think.

How has he not progressed?

 

[Sting]

How has he not progressed?

I'm referring to end of last season to now. It definitely felt like he was a stronger/more confident player in the latter half of last season versus now.

 

[Answer]

Definitely a slow start. Was expecting a bit more explosiveness from him. But he still continues to struggle to find the back of the net

 

[Loach]

Definitely a slow start. Was expecting a bit more explosiveness from him. But he still continues to struggle to find the back of the net

Maybe it's because we get stuck in our own zone all the time? When we get the puck it's either one and done or dump and change. Either way we just end up stuck in our zone again.

 

[Korpse]

I'm referring to end of last season to now. It definitely felt like he was a stronger/more confident player in the latter half of last season versus now.

I would agree that he was a more confident player to end the season. He's been fighting a puck to start this season but you are looking at a really small sample. I think we all know Tim has more to give, the biggest improvements are going to come with consistency, that's not something that happens overnight which seems to be what you are looking for. He's a 20 year old with 140 GP, maybe your expectations are the problem here. Even the best players in the league have nights where they aren't at their best, sometimes they go weeks.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I'm the guys biggest fan but his development definitely hasn't progressed. I'm more worried about or team's ability to develop players. We have a lot of guys who just hit a wall and nobody can really progress to true star level.

Better coaching would help Tim I think.

He has had a way better start than last season.

Pacing for 62 points as a 20 year old aint bad either, he will likely get more confident as the season gets going and finish around that 70-80 pt mark imo.

Also Batherson is a true star level player imo. Norris was pacing for 40+ goals last year.
Tkachuk also looks like a true star now as well.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I'm the guys biggest fan but his development definitely hasn't progressed. I'm more worried about or team's ability to develop players. We have a lot of guys who just hit a wall and nobody can really progress to true star level.

Better coaching would help Tim I think.

A little early to say he hasn’t progressed…what do you mean? He hasn’t progressed since his big leap
In development at the end of last year?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I don’t particularly like him with tkatchuk and batherson. It’s not that much better or better at all wit my stutzke vs Norris. We need stutzle and debrincat to start clicking

I would put brassard there. Batherson and tkatchuk work regardless.

 

[Sting]

A little early to say he hasn’t progressed…what do you mean? He hasn’t progressed since his big leap
In development at the end of last year?

I might be somewhat impatient but yeah I am not saying he hasn't progressed at all...just maybe less so than I was expecting over the summer. Keep in mind he is pegged and paid as "the guy" on this team. Expectations are high for him.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I might be somewhat impatient but yeah I am not saying he hasn't progressed at all...just maybe less so than I was expecting over the summer. Keep in mind he is pegged and paid as "the guy" on this team. Expectations are high for him.

He’s not paid as the guy yet. Development isn’t linear. I think expecting another massive step this early into his season after he took a big step at the end of last year is unrealistic.

 

[Silencio]

I'm the guys biggest fan but his development definitely hasn't progressed. I'm more worried about or team's ability to develop players. We have a lot of guys who just hit a wall and nobody can really progress to true star level.

Better coaching would help Tim I think.

Brady and Batherson have progressed to true star level IMO. Pinto is well on his way to that level too.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He was targeted by the Wild..
He and Batherson have not been their star quality selves the last 2 games.

 

[Sensinitis]

The true test for Tim comes this year, especially after the Norris injury.

He is the 1C and the guy all teams will be matching against. He obviously has matured in his own zone but needs to start shooting way more. He’ll get better as the season progresses but we’ll need it to happen sooner to stay in the race

 

[Big Muddy]

He was targeted by the Wild..
He and Batherson have not been their star quality selves the last 2 games.

Yes, you could see that the Wild were targeting him and playing him very physically & laying on the body checks. I think Stutzle just needs to simplify his game a bit more which I think he will learn over time. He needs to make the high percentage play more at times versus trying to force things and make that extra deke or whatever. I'm not sure he's found the player (or players) that he gels and meshes the best with yet either.

 

[robsenz]

Hamonic has more shots than Timmy. He needs to be a threat too, too many guys dishing the puck off right now. Someone has to take the lead, everyone wants to be a playmaker. With Norris out we need more guys to pull the trigger and he's one of them considering the amount of posession he has.

 

[KevinRedkey]

I've been very underwhelmed by Timmy this year. Not the player I was sure he would be (yet?).

 

[Keli]

I've been very underwhelmed by Timmy this year. Not the player I was sure he would be (yet?).

Same, hopefully it's just an adjustment period playing against the opponent top line and D.

 

[SensFan1010]

Hes had his moments i wouldnt say its been an awful season for him by any means but there has been some games were i was disappointed with his effort

 

[coladin]

His game is awful at the moment. Nevermind not shooting, but the turnovers are horrific and his work in the neutral zone is pathetic. He and Drake and Brady lost that game. the 3rd and 4th goals were dreadful.

Tkachuk Pinto Batherson

DeBrincat Giroux Stutzle

If he doesn't shape up

 

[bert]

I'm referring to end of last season to now. It definitely felt like he was a stronger/more confident player in the latter half of last season versus now.

I agree he doesnt look like last year but its 8 games... It has more to do with his own decision making. He isnt pressing, pushing the pace, driving the net, he looks comfortable. He is deferring to Batherson too much at the moment, needs to be more selfish.

 

[bicboi64]

I'd like to see some more shots from Stu and a bit less fancy stuff. Bath and Brady are keeping things simple and its worked for them, but its only 8 games in

 

[NB613]

That hit on Eichel last night

 

[Dionysus]

Terrible giveaway leading to a goal. Responded by playing great the rest of the way. Physical, pace, and executing plays. Really liked flipping Giroux onto his wing.

 

[Big Muddy]

He has had a way better start than last season.

Pacing for 62 points as a 20 year old aint bad either, he will likely get more confident as the season gets going and finish around that 70-80 pt mark imo.

Also Batherson is a true star level player imo. Norris was pacing for 40+ goals last year.
Tkachuk also looks like a true star now as well.

He's also been giving the puck away a fair bit & several of those give-aways have created dangerous scoring chances (and have been converted) for our opponent. He's also made a fair number of soft plays that killed possession and resulted in the puck going the opposite way into our zone.

I'm not down on him at all. But, thought it might be wise to look at the other side of the coin as well and not just do a box score (high level stat) type of analysis which is what some tend to do. You have to be honest and objective and look at all things when doing an analysis.

I think he needs to make simpler and more high percentage plays at times versus trying something fancy or trying to make that extra deke. That comes with experience as he's still a young player that will continue to learn.