Player Discussion Tim Stützle - L̶W̶/C - Part V

[GCK]

Stu only had 12 shots coming into last night and the message to shoot more was received. He had 5 shots on goal and missed the net a couple times on one timers. Great sign.

The turnover that led to the goal was bad but Chabot played it so poorly that he deserves at least equal blame.

 

[OD99]

That was his best overall game IMO and showed the type of player he can be. From his physical play, to his defensive zone awareness and support to the tenacity on the forecheck/backcheck and finally the offensive gifts.

Give me a lot of more of that and we can see him turn into the dominant players we all know he is capable of becoming.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

He needs to improve on his shot if he wants to be a superstar.

 

[robsenz]

He needs to improve on his shot if he wants to be a superstar.

HIs shot was more dangerous as a rookie. He needs to limit his turnovers and get stronger on the puck. He has better moments now and then and can win some battles, but he gets our muscled as much as Brannstrom does, but nobody gives him flack for it because he has high end skill.

 

[benjiv1]

HIs shot was more dangerous as a rookie. He needs to limit his turnovers and get stronger on the puck. He has better moments now and then and can win some battles, but he gets our muscled as much as Brannstrom does, but nobody gives him flack for it because he has high skill.

He’s also still the 2nd youngest player on the team besides Sanderson.

Literally had had less time than Brannstrom to get stronger.

 

[CorrectOpinion]

Stutzle will figure it out.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Stutzle will figure it out.

Absolutely, but as it stands, there has to be more accountability for his play. He isn't snake-bitten or something, he is playing absolutely stupid sometimes. Guys love DJ cause he doesnt dare push back on em. Took Tkachuk to yell at him last game.

Stutzle again today made the same stupid move holding onto the puck in defensive zone which eventually led to turnover.

 

[cudi]

wasnt amazing with the puck today but had a few really solid off the puck plays and his positioning was better for the most part. can sit him a shift here and there, but like that the coaches are letting him play through this tough stretch.

 

[DylanSensFan]

Absolutely, but as it stands, there has to be more accountability for his play. He isn't snake-bitten or something, he is playing absolutely stupid sometimes. Guys love DJ cause he doesnt dare push back on em. Took Tkachuk to yell at him last game.

Stutzle again today made the same stupid move holding onto the puck in defensive zone which eventually led to turnover.

He also created a bunch of turnovers against Philly. He's what, 20, 21-years old? Just let him grow.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

He also created a bunch of turnovers against Philly. He's what, 20, 21-years old? Just let him grow.

I believe Stutzle will be top 5 C in a year or two, but again, it does not excuse his boneheaded plays that cost us serious turnovers. We aren't rebuilding where we can say "let the kids play" we now need results, so accountability should be more notable.

 

[CorrectOpinion]

I think the thing with Stutzle is he obv a skill player and he's going to break games by outskilling people. He was getting rewarded the first 5 games of the season and now it isn't working. But I totally get why the temptation is there for him to try shit. He just has to pick his moments better. Still a kid tho.

 

[DylanSensFan]

I believe Stutzle will be top 5 C in a year or two, but again, it does not excuse his boneheaded plays that cost us serious turnovers. We aren't rebuilding where we can say "let the kids play" we now need results, so accountability should be more notable.

Sometimes this board has weird stuff happen. Anyhow, back to Stü. Spezza was the mule for this fanbase for a long time. I recall him being lambasted for making no look passes from behind the opposing teams net, that ended up creating a turnover and chances down at our end.

Point is, I think Stützle will be better than Spezza in all areas of the game. Yes, we should hold him accountable, but part of the reason you're being so critical is because we've lost 7 of the last 8.

 

[Dionysus]

I think the thing with Stutzle is he obv a skill player and he's going to break gsmes but outskilling people. He was getting rewarded the first 5 games of the season and now it isn't working. But I totally get why the temptation is there for him to try shit. He just has to pick his moments better. Still a kid tho.

Some giveaways and sometimes gets trapped on the boards in the offensive zone and loses possession. Also needs to work on his shot.

Really competing well though. His defensive play has been solid, and he can transition the puck out of the d zone with control. Playing big minutes, often leads forwards in ice time.

Still putting up points, I think we will see Tim really find a groove as the season goes on.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Should be with cat

 

[Sens9292]

He’s a 20 year old point per game player as it stands. He’ll be fine.

 

[Bileur]

Should be with cat

I love the current line.

Lots of faceoff help. Defensive help from G. G and Brady there to keep him in line. Really liked when they keyed in on Giroux seeming to tell him to play though the pain and get ready cause the line was going back out the other day.

I remember Alfie taking Turris under his wing and how that seemed to help his development, hopefully G does the same for Stu.

Brady there to back him up if teams get rough. He seems more physical with G and Brady.

Stu is also a hard player to read and play off of, so having a really smart player like G with him helps. It also helps to keep line together consistently so they get used to his style/moves/instincts.

I think this line will be good for his long term development.

 

[Samsquanch]

He's a hard worker and has a crazy high compete level. He makes some silly bad plays out there no doubt. But you can see how angry he is with himself afterwards, and how hard he works to get the puck back when he gives it up. It's exactly what you want to see from a creative player.

He rarely looks lost or disengaged out there and that's because he's always keeping his feet moving and hounding the puck.

Stutzle is a special breed. He's gonna figure out the finer details as we go along, and he's going to be the most complete and dominant center in franchise history when he actually enters his prime years.

 

[Alfie11]

G is key for Jimmy. He's going to push him and get on him when things aren't done right. Long term, it will make Stutzle a much better player and ready to be a #1 centre.

 

[DrEasy]

He's a hard worker and has a crazy high compete level. He makes some silly bad plays out there no doubt. But you can see how angry he is with himself afterwards, and how hard he works to get the puck back when he gives it up. It's exactly what you want to see from a creative player.

He rarely looks lost or disengaged out there and that's because he's always keeping his feet moving and hounding the puck.

Stutzle is a special breed. He's gonna figure out the finer details as we go along, and he's going to be the most complete and dominant center in franchise history when he actually enters his prime years.

It will be hard for him to beat Yashin or Spezza, but if he even slots in at #3 in franchise history, which I expect him to, we will have done very well.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

TIL that a 20 year old kid producing at a point per game pace in the NHL needs to “figure it out”

Stützle even got penalty kill time yesterday and made a great play to clear the puck out of the zone on the PK.

He was blocking shots and causing havoc on the back check.

Why Stü has become some posters whipping boy… I’ll never understand it…

 

[DJB]

TIL that a 20 year old kid producing at a point per game pace in the NHL needs to “figure it out”

Stützle even got penalty kill time yesterday and made a great play to clear the puck out of the zone on the PK.

He was blocking shots and causing havoc on the back check.

Why Stü has become some posters whipping boy… I’ll never understand it…

He’s had some pk time ever since Norris went down. Has been decent as well at it

 

[Micklebot]

TIL that a 20 year old kid producing at a point per game pace in the NHL needs to “figure it out”

Stützle even got penalty kill time yesterday and made a great play to clear the puck out of the zone on the PK.

He was blocking shots and causing havoc on the back check.

Why Stü has become some posters whipping boy… I’ll never understand it…

He makes some careless plays with the puck, similar to Spezza back in the day. He's young, hopefully he works them out of his game because there is a lot to like.

 

[thinkwild]

It's pretty impressive that we are still watching him develop and that he is looking good on the pk. I always notice how even if i am sitting far from the tv and cant quite make out the players, you can tell when it's Jimmy that has the puck cause few can skate out of trouble like he can. I guess like Spezza he makes things happen fast and so it comes with risk. In poker, if you win 60% of the time and lose 40% doing something, you dont get mad at yourself that 40% of the time.

I guess a lot of elite athletes can use anger at themselves when they make a mistake, but i often worry that the anger can be more performative than productive, i hope he can stay away from that

 

[Bevans]

It will be hard for him to beat Yashin or Spezza, but if he even slots in at #3 in franchise history, which I expect him to, we will have done very well.

Funny you should say he'll have a hard time beating Spezza.

Spezza when he turned 21:
76 points in 111 games, good for 56 point pace.

Stutzle 2 months shy of turing 21:
100 in 146 games, good for 56 point pace.

Presumably, Stutzle will build a lead in next 2 months, plus his total is dragged down by having started in NHL sooner. Unlike Spezza, Stutzle will also get his 22 y/o season in the NHL.

Due to injuries and lock out Spezza only played 11 seasons and 686 games for Ottawa.

Stutzle has already played 146 and is under contract for another 718.

If Stutzle can stay healthy, I think he can easily surpass Spezza overall. Spezza's best season ever: 108 point pace, will be difficult to reach. It remains to be seen whether Stutzle can reach Spezza's peak, but I'm very confident he will produce more as a Senator than Spezza did.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Looks like he may need another season or two to break out and be a star, kind of like how MacKinnon didn't make that jump until his 5th year in the league.

Like MacKinnon his speed and skill combo is elite and can be deadly, but Timmy's IQ isn't quite at the level of his technical skills.

He'll eventually figure it what works and what doesn't. Not worrying about his contract in the slightest.