I would love Alfie to skate with this kid and play some keep away with him....He has that skill to keep the puck and to circle away from traffic while maintaining possession....
Player Discussion Tim Stützle - L̶W̶/C - Part V
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BondraTime
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Alfie was the king of the button hook. Stutzle would benefit immensely learning to use that to slow the play down.
Yeah or ragging the puck on the PK...Stu has that ability ,also Alfies patented "Cobra" stick strike to strip pucks...Much can the grasshopper learn from the master
I believe we had Timmy 2 Sanderson 4
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With salary cap squeeze up coming, Stutzle would be the prime candidate to take a short bridge to cash in on a 9M contract in 2025 when a lot of money comes free.
Stutzle takes 5M 2023-2024, then 7M 2024-2025, then signs for 9M x 8 years = 84M versus trying 8M x 8 years = 64M and then needs to bank on someone giving him a fat retirement contract as a 30 year old.
Guaranteed money is better in 64M obviously. They could have a handshake agreement and extend him the subsequent summer in 2024 right away for his financial security.
Alternatively, he gives zero f***s about Senators salary cap and demands 9M x 8 years off the bat.
Stutzle takes 5M 2023-2024, then 7M 2024-2025, then signs for 9M x 8 years = 84M versus trying 8M x 8 years = 64M and then needs to bank on someone giving him a fat retirement contract as a 30 year old.
Guaranteed money is better in 64M obviously. They could have a handshake agreement and extend him the subsequent summer in 2024 right away for his financial security.
Alternatively, he gives zero f***s about Senators salary cap and demands 9M x 8 years off the bat.
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Not to mention how he was laying the body. There was one shift he blew up 3 Team Canada players.
Looked like Forsberg.
I think bridging Stützle would be a massive gamble likely to blow up on us.
That bridge deal would give him arbitration rights at the end of it
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How many teams will be able to take on a 10M contract if we're thinking he goes arbitration route to UFA in 2026? We'll have the room to extend him to a 9M contract in two years basically. Seems low risk. I assume he must love the direciton of the team and he seems to have off ice chemistry with the entire core. Would he really drag the team to arbitration for an award of what - 8-9M x 2 years to go to UFA when he can take the 9M x 8 years right off form us willingly offered?
Hell, could do 1 year x 6.5M if we can't get that handshake agreement.
Not sure if that was on that shift, but at one point he checked Byram onto Team Canada's bench.
Overall you could tell he was pissed about getting blown out. That young man always hated to lose.
Yes, it's a bit risky for what could be one of the best player this team has seen. Do we want to gamble?
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8 by 8 is not going to be an option. He's Going to get a "bridge" in that his contract won't 8 years but it won't be perceived as one because the salary will still be very high.
His contract will be in the mold of matthews, aho, pettersson. 3 to 5 years x 9+.
Elite number 1 centre with pedigree will have a blank cheque. To get 8 years they'll probably need to go north of 10.5.
With the way Ottawa likes to "pyramid" salary distribution on their long term deals,an 8 year would likely make Stutzle the highest paid player in the nhl in the 3rd or 4th year of the deal. Like Seguin this year!
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After this season he's gonna have a boat load of leverage when he puts up 80+ points. If Dorion still has some magic left then try and see if he's open to a Jack Hughes-ish contract now.
Although Stutzle probably knows as well as us that that will look like a bargain within about 6 months.
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After this season he's gonna have a boat load of leverage when he puts up 80+ points. If Dorion still has some magic left then try and see if he's open to a Jack Hughes-ish contract now.
Although Stutzle probably knows as well as us that that will look like a bargain within about 6 months.
He also knows he’s one cheap hit away from $100 million … there should be some incentive to consider extending.
In this photo taken from a 1991 disposable camera seemingly found in a dry creek bed Timmy looks like a freaking linebacker.
Edit: someone else posted the video
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The order like I’ve previously discussed on here before the draft was ;
1. Laf
2. Timmy
3. Byfield
4. Sanderson
5. Raymond
I don’t know for sure but I’ve discussed it with another poster who also has info but we sorta think that Jack Quinn may have been #6
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Don't see Timmy commanding much more than he already will on an 8 year contract next summer vs in 2025, so I'm all for him getting a bridge to try and get us a couple years of 2-3M savings to get another top 4 D piece hopefully by the time our dead cap and cap increase comes.
2 years bridge in 2023? Assuming he scores 60-70 points, probably gets 6.5M AAV.
8 years in 2023? Cap hit likely around 8.5M assuming similar output of 60-70 points this coming season.
8 years in 2025? Assuming he's a 70-80 pt player at least once, probs lt 9.5-10M per year.
Except in 2025 we have 4.5M from Zaitsev off the books, 5M from dead cap, 4.5M from Holden + Harmonic off the books. 4-5M in new salary cap increase. That's Stutzle and a top 4 RD money right there and some.
Say we're lucky and on his bridge he never tops 70 points because everyone needs time to develop and mature plus adjust to the league? Major win if we don't have to sign him to an 10M contract and have bargained for a 6-7M AAV for two years where he developed rather than going the Chabot Brady route.
But I get that everyone here sees Stutzle in that Tavares/MacKinnon tier of elite franchise players that produce PPG in their D+4 season, where those guys were locked quick at bargain contracts.
2 years bridge in 2023? Assuming he scores 60-70 points, probably gets 6.5M AAV.
8 years in 2023? Cap hit likely around 8.5M assuming similar output of 60-70 points this coming season.
8 years in 2025? Assuming he's a 70-80 pt player at least once, probs lt 9.5-10M per year.
Except in 2025 we have 4.5M from Zaitsev off the books, 5M from dead cap, 4.5M from Holden + Harmonic off the books. 4-5M in new salary cap increase. That's Stutzle and a top 4 RD money right there and some.
Say we're lucky and on his bridge he never tops 70 points because everyone needs time to develop and mature plus adjust to the league? Major win if we don't have to sign him to an 10M contract and have bargained for a 6-7M AAV for two years where he developed rather than going the Chabot Brady route.
But I get that everyone here sees Stutzle in that Tavares/MacKinnon tier of elite franchise players that produce PPG in their D+4 season, where those guys were locked quick at bargain contracts.
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Yea, Stutzle is getting locked up without a doubt in my mind. We should get him locked up first month or so in regular season.
He is going to be the best forward we have ever had. Or in conversation. Next year is just going to be remarkable in every way. What a shift from just a few months ago.
He is going to be the best forward we have ever had. Or in conversation. Next year is just going to be remarkable in every way. What a shift from just a few months ago.
Gonna have to bump all those numbers.
My preference would be to get Timmy locked up long term immediately.
The absolute last thing we need is a bridge deal which could plant a seed that says only a couple more years here and I am out.
Why would he accept less than 10x8 right now?
He was dominant end of year and has plenty of time to prove it's for real.
Hughes is already regretting signing early.
The only way an early deal gets done is if Stu comes to Ottawa. Otherwise, if Ottawa gives a number first then that becomes the floor. Bad season, stu accepts; good season, stu adds 3 million.
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I love Timmy as much as the next fan but you certainly have high expectations given Alfie is a HOF
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