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Player Discussion Tim Stützle - L̶W̶/C - Part V

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supsens said:
Do you not understand Mathews scored goals at the same rate jimmy scores points? Mcdavid put up 100 points his second year after going point per His first year and MacKinnon who had a slow start put up 63 points his first year
I didn’t read the article and I don’t care what it says
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3 first overall picks, being generational or at least franchise centres.
 
I should clarify that when I used MacKinnon, Mcdavid and Matthews as examples, I did not mean to compare them (who can compare to McDavid anyway), but I was trying to explain how special it is when an elite centre becomes available at the top of a draft.

Most teams will generally select the center over the winger if they deem them to be similar in talent.
 
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TheDebater said:
I consider us lucky that Stützle was considered a winger in his draft year, because if he was projected as a center he would have probably gone 1st overall to NY that year.
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Nope. Lafreniere was just too dominating at every level to not go #1. His mediocre start to his NHL career is possibly the most shocking I can remember. Even Daigle was more impressive as a rookie.

And Byfield's physical package as a huge, fast , skilled center was equally enticing as Jimmy.

Assen na yo.
 
Tranquilo Naito said:
Nope. Lafreniere was just too dominating at every level to not go #1. His mediocre start to his NHL career is possibly the most shocking I can remember. Even Daigle was more impressive as a rookie.

And Byfield's physical package as a huge, fast , skilled center was equally enticing as Jimmy.

Assen na yo.
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Daigle was more impressive as a rookie than a lot of former 1st OA players, it's what followed that was the issue.
 
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Tranquilo Naito said:
Nope. Lafreniere was just too dominating at every level to not go #1. His mediocre start to his NHL career is possibly the most shocking I can remember. Even Daigle was more impressive as a rookie.

And Byfield's physical package as a huge, fast , skilled center was equally enticing as Jimmy.

Assen na yo.
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Yea I guess you are right, the hype for Lafreniere after the WJC was hard to ignore.

And aside from Hall over Seguin, I think generally the winger has to be a clear cut #1 pick like Patrick Kane, Yakupov (at the time), Lafreniere etc. to be selected over a center.
 
TheDebater said:
Yea I guess you are right, the hype for Lafreniere after the WJC was hard to ignore.

And aside from Hall over Seguin, I think generally the winger has to be a clear cut #1 pick like Patrick Kane, Yakupov (at the time), Lafreniere etc. to be selected over a center.
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Except I feel some are forgetting that Lafreniere was already drafted, before the last WJC.
 
Sensinitis said:
damn bro you really know how to read hockey db
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I like jimmy and he looks like he might turn into a great player one day but he does not produce at a high level and he makes some horrific turn overs that are unforced. He is being highly overrated as an elite player right now.
I am not saying he won’t get there but he is defiantly not right now
 
supsens said:
I like jimmy and he looks like he might turn into a great player one day but he does not produce at a high level and he makes some horrific turn overs that are unforced. He is being highly overrated as an elite player right now.
I am not saying he won’t get there but he is defiantly not right now
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I also recall you many many years ago on the Sportsnet forums talking the same way about Jason Spezza and making similar posts diminishing him as a player.

You just have something against highly skilled, elite young players.
 
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TheDebater said:
I also recall you many many years ago on the Sportsnet forums talking the same way about Jason Spezza and making similar posts diminishing him as a player.

You just have something against highly skilled, elite young players.
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Are you drunk? How do I have anything against him?
He is not a top line player yet he is not a star player yet.
He has produced 45 points is pushed around and makes terrible plays.
All these things will change with age but until they do change he is what he is, a fast player that looks like he may be a star one day
 
Bileur said:
Its too bad he doesn’t have a skilled Center like Stutzle to play with.
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Its also too bad that Stutzle does not have a skilled winger like Lafreniere to play with. :)

Perhaps in the next draft we will draft for skill and acquire one.
 
supsens said:
Do you not understand Mathews scored goals at the same rate jimmy scores points? Mcdavid put up 100 points his second year after going point per His first year and MacKinnon who had a slow start put up 63 points his first year
I didn’t read the article and I don’t care what it says
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Timmy is way better than Matthews. Pretty gross you are out there sucking up to Leafs Nation. Please turn in your Sens Army card.
 
HSF said:
I still don't get how Laf is not making a bigger impact

he looked really good in junior

its only a matter of time
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Stützle is in a much better playing situation than Laf. If Laf was here IMO he'd have atleast as many points as Stützle, if not more. He will get it together very soon no doubt.
 
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