Player Discussion Tim Stützle - (C) - Part VI

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I have been hard on Batherson but I forget easily that before his injury he was our best forward, on pace for 90 points while playing a heavy game.

It is more likely that was the real Batherson than what we saw last year.

I think we were getting close to that Batherson towards the end of last season IMO.
 
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ottawagm

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I'd like to see the following:

Tarasenko Stutzle Giroux
Tkachuk Norris Joseph
Kubalik Pinto Batherson

Joseph played his best with those two and that would give the line some speed. Bath and Pinto have chemistry from last year and it would give Kubalik a play maker.
 

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I'd like to see the following:

Tarasenko Stutzle Giroux
Tkachuk Norris Joseph
Kubalik Pinto Batherson

Joseph played his best with those two and that would give the line some speed. Bath and Pinto have chemistry from last year and it would give Kubalik a play maker.
I think we should get Stu and Bath together to develop chemistry now that he's fully healed. We were seeing glimpses of it before he went down and it was special.

Maybe swap Bath and G?
 

ottawagm

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I think we should get Stu and Bath together to develop chemistry now that he's fully healed. We were seeing glimpses of it before he went down and it was special.

Maybe swap Bath and G?

I think Timmy will still need G's help on draws this year.
 
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BigRig4

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Sens posted a picture, and in it Stutzle is wearing a red jersey? Doesn’t that normally indicate no contact (injured)? Do we have any info on this?
 

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Sens posted a picture, and in it Stutzle is wearing a red jersey? Doesn’t that normally indicate no contact (injured)? Do we have any info on this?
Most of the time in scrimmages. It’s just linemate distinction.
Senators use yellow as non contact.
 
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Have you ever heard of activation energy? Of Malcom Gladwel's column on choking vs. panicing, the two modes of failure to perform up to your abilities and training under pressure? Sports psychology is really interesting, and applicable to so much more of your life.
once a player quivers. You are finished.

A quiver is fear.

In Marner's case, go back and see the game.. It was after he shot the puck over the boards and took a 2 minute penalty.

Pressure means that you err of the side of caution. If you are playing soccer, you shoot the ball a tad slower and more in the middle of the net.. you play it safe. Thomas Muller Germany 2010 world cup.. caused elimination in the Semi finals. He went on to win in 2014.. Has enjoyed tremendous success at the club level.

Fear means you miss and miss badly.. you sky the ball above the net or way wide.. Baggio. Marner and the puck

quiver means you never win, fear means you can hurt your team.

Harry Kane has guided England to some level of success but not great, Often misses key moments. No success at the club level. Fear.

Messi, no fear, no pressure. Has won everything that can be won.
 

GCK

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Maybe because unlike many other prospects he wasn't shooting at junior goalies. I always thought his shot looked much better when he played for the U20 national team in international tournaments compared to when he played for Adler Mannheim in the DEL. But this could be way off.

Also, his shot was always one of his weaker attributes. Most of the focus was on his skating, playmaking and his puck skills/stickhandling.
His shot really started to come along during his draft year and has continued to improve after entering the NHL.
This is somewhat similar to Draisaitl, whose shot was also rated pretty low if I remember correctly. I don't think people still consider Draisaitl's shot to be a weakness. Maybe this will happen with Stützle, too.
Stutzle doesn’t really have the ability to change his release point without losing velocity and accuracy. He will get better at it.
 

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Before his injury Batherson was so dangerous. He's big enough to shield off defenders, quick enough to make strong zone entries and talented enough to make things happen.

I remember thinking our offence would always be contingent on him (pre Stu absolutely exploding), even more so than Tkachuk, so I'm hoping for him to get back to form this year.
 

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Being trying to find a comparison for Timmy, Hossa made sense at the start because you were talking most naturally skilled young winger in Sens history who could be a HOF - then I went to Mike Modano when he switched to center and I saw how he liked to skate through the middle of the ice and dangle but Timmy is such a heavier player then Modano (and not as fast) - so Peter Forsberg is a good comparison but Forsberg played more of a post up game and down low but the power and command for space is similar with both players, Timmy has Joe Sakic’s cluthchiness which is why we all love him, he’s got Sidney Crosby like ferocity and determination, and he skates though the center of the ice with a McKinnon like presence.

Could be an MVP candidate this year. If he gets going on the PP early and Ottawas winning could be a real interesting year for Timmy. Could become a top 10 NHL player
 

benjiv1

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Before his injury Batherson was so dangerous. He's big enough to shield off defenders, quick enough to make strong zone entries and talented enough to make things happen.

I remember thinking our offence would always be contingent on him (pre Stu absolutely exploding), even more so than Tkachuk, so I'm hoping for him to get back to form this year.
Severe ankle injuries can be rouuuuuugh.

I severely sprained mine at the beach and heard/felt like a machine gun of pops in my ankle.

3 years later it still doesn’t feel right, and sounds like I’m having a back adjustment done when I crack it.

I’m excited to see how Batherson looks this year.
 

RickyLafleur

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Severe ankle injuries can be rouuuuuugh.

I severely sprained mine at the beach and heard/felt like a machine gun of pops in my ankle.

3 years later it still doesn’t feel right, and sounds like I’m having a back adjustment done when I crack it.

I’m excited to see how Batherson looks this year.
I hear ya man, messed up my ankle a few years ago playing ball hockey and ended up re-injuring it by coming back too soon. Still feels weak years later.
 

JackieDaytona

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Latest from Mendes on Timmy is a heartwarming read. Kid’s a beauty, and his parents raised him all sorts of right. Reading his attitude about the contract, about the team, and his priorities - how can you not cheer this guy on?

Can’t wait to see what unfolds over the next few years. Exciting time to be a sens fan.
 

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This guy is our next Alfredsson, with Karlsson level skill and flair.

“For me, money doesn’t mean much,” Stützle says. “It’s the way I was raised. It was never about money. It was about trying to be a good person.”
And then he adds: “My only goal is to win a Stanley Cup ring.”

“People will say, ‘Why did he sign that early?’ But in the end, I think the fans are happy that I’m committed long term,” he says. “And I wanted to show commitment to everybody — the younger guys, too, like Sandy (Jake Sanderson). This group is special. I could have easily signed for three or four years and said, ‘Let’s see what happens.’ But I’m just so confident that we’re going to be a good team.”

If Stützle had waited, he certainly would have had enough leverage to warrant a much richer contract. But that was never his motivation.
“Personally, I think if someone is making $10 or $11 million it makes it hard to win with the salary cap,” he says. “But with everybody making under $9 million in our young core, I think we have a really good chance to win. And the only goal I really have is to win a Stanley Cup with this group of guys.”

He knew he could have joined the league’s salaried elite and made north of $10 million with this new contract.
“For me, it wasn’t important if I made $9 million or $10 million. Making $8.35 million is still a lot of money,” Stützle says. “I just think it’s a really fair deal for both sides, you know? And that’s what I wanted.”

Not surprisingly, his mother offered some important perspective as he contemplated the deal.
“I said to him, ‘Tim, what more do you want than having a good team and lots of fans?'” she remembers telling him. “You’re going to have more money than you can ever spend in your whole life. Why do you need more?”
 

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This guy is our next Alfredsson, with Karlsson level skill and flair.

“For me, money doesn’t mean much,” Stützle says. “It’s the way I was raised. It was never about money. It was about trying to be a good person.”
And then he adds: “My only goal is to win a Stanley Cup ring.”

“People will say, ‘Why did he sign that early?’ But in the end, I think the fans are happy that I’m committed long term,” he says. “And I wanted to show commitment to everybody — the younger guys, too, like Sandy (Jake Sanderson). This group is special. I could have easily signed for three or four years and said, ‘Let’s see what happens.’ But I’m just so confident that we’re going to be a good team.”

If Stützle had waited, he certainly would have had enough leverage to warrant a much richer contract. But that was never his motivation.
“Personally, I think if someone is making $10 or $11 million it makes it hard to win with the salary cap,” he says. “But with everybody making under $9 million in our young core, I think we have a really good chance to win. And the only goal I really have is to win a Stanley Cup with this group of guys.”

He knew he could have joined the league’s salaried elite and made north of $10 million with this new contract.
“For me, it wasn’t important if I made $9 million or $10 million. Making $8.35 million is still a lot of money,” Stützle says. “I just think it’s a really fair deal for both sides, you know? And that’s what I wanted.”

Not surprisingly, his mother offered some important perspective as he contemplated the deal.
“I said to him, ‘Tim, what more do you want than having a good team and lots of fans?'” she remembers telling him. “You’re going to have more money than you can ever spend in your whole life. Why do you need more?”
Very refreshing to hear a player acknowledge that their salary demands have a compounding effect on their teams chances.
 

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They got the donuts? Excellent....
Not surprisingly, his mother offered some important perspective as he contemplated the deal.
“I said to him, ‘Tim, what more do you want than having a good team and lots of fans?'” she remembers telling him. “You’re going to have more money than you can ever spend in your whole life. Why do you need more?”

Mother of the decade right here.

Assen na yo!
 

OD99

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This guy is our next Alfredsson, with Karlsson level skill and flair.

“For me, money doesn’t mean much,” Stützle says. “It’s the way I was raised. It was never about money. It was about trying to be a good person.”
And then he adds: “My only goal is to win a Stanley Cup ring.”

“People will say, ‘Why did he sign that early?’ But in the end, I think the fans are happy that I’m committed long term,” he says. “And I wanted to show commitment to everybody — the younger guys, too, like Sandy (Jake Sanderson). This group is special. I could have easily signed for three or four years and said, ‘Let’s see what happens.’ But I’m just so confident that we’re going to be a good team.”

If Stützle had waited, he certainly would have had enough leverage to warrant a much richer contract. But that was never his motivation.
“Personally, I think if someone is making $10 or $11 million it makes it hard to win with the salary cap,” he says. “But with everybody making under $9 million in our young core, I think we have a really good chance to win. And the only goal I really have is to win a Stanley Cup with this group of guys.”

He knew he could have joined the league’s salaried elite and made north of $10 million with this new contract.
“For me, it wasn’t important if I made $9 million or $10 million. Making $8.35 million is still a lot of money,” Stützle says. “I just think it’s a really fair deal for both sides, you know? And that’s what I wanted.”

Not surprisingly, his mother offered some important perspective as he contemplated the deal.
“I said to him, ‘Tim, what more do you want than having a good team and lots of fans?'” she remembers telling him. “You’re going to have more money than you can ever spend in your whole life. Why do you need more?”
Some people scoff at this but the fact he is laying it out there shows what this group is looking to do and recognizing one tactic to be competitive is to keep top salaries down.

Marchand said something similar a few years ago and it still makes sense. It will be interesting to hear if BT echos the thought.

Let's other players know coming in what they are signing up for.
 
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saskriders

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This guy is our next Alfredsson, with Karlsson level skill and flair.

“For me, money doesn’t mean much,” Stützle says. “It’s the way I was raised. It was never about money. It was about trying to be a good person.”
And then he adds: “My only goal is to win a Stanley Cup ring.”

“People will say, ‘Why did he sign that early?’ But in the end, I think the fans are happy that I’m committed long term,” he says. “And I wanted to show commitment to everybody — the younger guys, too, like Sandy (Jake Sanderson). This group is special. I could have easily signed for three or four years and said, ‘Let’s see what happens.’ But I’m just so confident that we’re going to be a good team.”

If Stützle had waited, he certainly would have had enough leverage to warrant a much richer contract. But that was never his motivation.
“Personally, I think if someone is making $10 or $11 million it makes it hard to win with the salary cap,” he says. “But with everybody making under $9 million in our young core, I think we have a really good chance to win. And the only goal I really have is to win a Stanley Cup with this group of guys.”

He knew he could have joined the league’s salaried elite and made north of $10 million with this new contract.
“For me, it wasn’t important if I made $9 million or $10 million. Making $8.35 million is still a lot of money,” Stützle says. “I just think it’s a really fair deal for both sides, you know? And that’s what I wanted.”

Not surprisingly, his mother offered some important perspective as he contemplated the deal.
“I said to him, ‘Tim, what more do you want than having a good team and lots of fans?'” she remembers telling him. “You’re going to have more money than you can ever spend in your whole life. Why do you need more?”
What is the source on this?
 

Ser Grogu

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REPORT: With the Second Pick in the 2020 NHL Draft, Los Angeles Kings Will Select…

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I had quite a laugh remembering this one after Ian's article today. Rob Blake and Co must have ridiculous standards.
 

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