Ticket/Attendance Discussion: The Sequel

[robertocarlos]

Arizona looked pretty competitive on Sunday. If they spend more than $40 million actual dollars on salary that would be a surprise.

 

[Lions67]

So he's basically saying he needs the seats full to ice a competitive team.

He's not implying the team will leave.

That’s exactly what he’s saying.

 

[KingBogo]

Arizona looked pretty competitive on Sunday. If they spend more than $40 million actual dollars on salary that would be a surprise.

Well they aren't very competitive over the longer measuring stick of a regular season. That takes top players and a deep team and that costs money.

 

[bustamente]

The first step to knowing you have a problem is admitting you have a problem, is seems the Jets have acknowledged they made some mistakes in the past and will try to rectify. They have a lot of work to do but having a competitive team will help, having a deep run in the playoffs will help even more.

 

[Gm0ney]

That's not how deductions work. You don't get 100% of your deduction back. You just don't pay tax on the amount in question. If your marginal tax rate is, say, 30% you reduce your tax burden by 30% of the deduction. Assuming you're taxable at all.



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Right...I'm no accountant. So if your rate is 30%, and you can claim 50% of the ticket cost, it's not half price season tickets...more like a 15% discount.

 

[Keystone]

Sounds like the Ehlers fans better get their season tickets!! In all seriousness, it’s pretty reasonable to need a full building to ice the best team we can. Is there discounted season tickets for students/ children. Seems like something that could be done, at least in the upper level.

 

[KingBogo]

The first step to knowing you have a problem is admitting you have a problem, is seems the Jets have acknowledged they made some mistakes in the past and will try to rectify. They have a lot of work to do but having a competitive team will help, having a deep run in the playoffs will help even more.

That's what I was thinking. A cup run (or close to it) makes every problem go away. People will come back and corporations will step up.

 

[robertocarlos]

Well they aren't very competitive over the longer measuring stick of a regular season. That takes top players and a deep team and that costs money.

Yes, they have a chance to win every game but almost zero chance to win the Cup. Probably their are no Cup winners in the last 10 years spending at less than 95% of the Cap.

But just thing of the thrill when your podunk town team beats the Leafs or Rangers.

 

[KingBogo]

Sounds like the Ehlers fans better get their season tickets!! In all seriousness, it’s pretty reasonable to need a full building to ice the best team we can. Is there discounted season tickets for students/ children. Seems like something that could be done, at least in the upper level.

This is where you need to have your corporate sponsors step up. For the first few years of the Jets 2.0 Manitoba Liquor and Lotteries had about 40 tickets per game and would send a couple local kids hockey teams to the games. They would get a shout out and all the kids would stand a wave wearing their team jerseys. No reason very large and rich corporations can't do similar things.

 

[bustamente]

That's what I was thinking. A cup run (or close to it) makes every problem go away. People will come back and corporations will step up.

The atmosphere of playoff hockey is all consuming especially here with a full building inside while thousands are outside enjoying the White Out party. That's when True North needs to be ready and get businesses on board and joe fan signed up for Season tickets. It would be nice to talk about what the team did in the playoffs instead of doom and gloom.

 

[KingBogo]

The atmosphere of playoff hockey is all consuming especially here with a full building inside while thousands are outside enjoying the White Out party. That's when True North needs to be ready and get businesses on board and joe fan signed up for Season tickets. It would be nice to talk about what the team did in the playoffs instead of doom and gloom.

Especially if we get nice warm spring weather, then downtown comes alive and local businesses start feeling good about things.

 

[Gm0ney]

One good way for the Jets to save some money and still remain competitive would be to not pay Pionk and Schmidt $12.5M...

 

[Hunter368]

I had no issues with anything Gary said, I thought he was pragmatic and straight forward which I like.

 

[RestlessYoungZero]

Looks like the “fireside chat” with Sarah mediating questions from fans was separate, I hope the Jets release that footage for others to see too. The live YouTube stream was just a separate press event

 

[DannyGallivan]

Have you ever been to a Dollarama? There's all kinds of great stuff in there.

I love Dollarama for what it is. However, it belongs in a neighborhood strip mall, not on Portage across from the arena.

 

[Gm0ney]

Looks like the “fireside chat” with Sarah mediating questions from fans was separate, I hope the Jets release that footage for others to see too. The live YouTube stream was just a separate press event

If Sarah was mediating they probably only had time for 1 question...

 

[CorgisPer60]

I had no issues with anything Gary said, I thought he was pragmatic and straight forward which I like.

I thought Bettman's availability was good and without any smarmy backhanded comments. He even addressed the Sword of Damocles that I referenced last week with respect to the season ticket drive from last season.

"Look at what TNSE is doing in the development area. If you think the team is in danger of leaving, you need to breathe and relax a bit."

 

[Andy6]

They want more corporate ticket holders to get that 15% up to be comparable to the percentage in other Canadian markets. I think it was always taken out of context and wasn't about drumming up individual season ticket sales. That's why Bettman is here, to help get corporate ticket holders.

I don‘t really see how extra corporate sales won’t end up cannibalizing some of the existing individual sales, but I guess it’s not unrealistic to hope for a net increase of a couple of thousand per game while also anticipating that the end of Covid fears will get another big bunch of people back over the next year. This problem seems very solvable.

 

[robertocarlos]

Bettman is staying for the game right? Assure him his Bombardier Challenger 350 is safe at the airport.

 

[gojetsgo]

I thought Bettman's availability was good and without any smarmy backhanded comments. He even addressed the Sword of Damocles that I referenced last week with respect to the season ticket drive from last season.

"Look at what TNSE is doing in the development area. If you think the team is in danger of leaving, you need to breathe and relax a bit."

it's funny because there is a winnipeg dallas fan that hates the jets has posted on the main boards a few times that jets fans exaggerate how much they own down town and claimed it was only a couple of properties

 

[CaptainUgly]

In my personal perspective, watching sports at home can provide a more pleasurable experience. There are no queues to the restroom, the food is more reasonably priced, there are no obstructed views, one can effortlessly switch between various games, and one does not need to be concerned about the weather conditions.

Additionally, there is no need to worry about downtown parking, exiting the arena, and for those who partake in smoking, there is easy access.

 

[tbcwpg]

Arizona looked pretty competitive on Sunday. If they spend more than $40 million actual dollars on salary that would be a surprise.

Yeah they did, probably desperate to not lose 12 in a row.

So he's basically saying he needs the seats full to ice a competitive team.

He's not implying the team will leave.

There was a handsome poster with a light blue name making the same point a couple of days ago

 

[Hunter368]

In my personal perspective, watching sports at home can provide a more pleasurable experience. There are no queues to the restroom, the food is more reasonably priced, there are no obstructed views, one can effortlessly switch between various games, and one does not need to be concerned about the weather conditions.

Additionally, there is no need to worry about downtown parking, exiting the arena, and for those who partake in smoking, there is easy access.

100% fair

I was a season ticket holder for 10 years with Jets 2.0, then decided not to renew due to split marriage and kids who just wasn't practical to take to games on week nights due to school. I absolutely would buy single games or share tickets in a group, but I have no interest in going to 40+ games per season when I have kids, career, etc.

 

[WpgSteve]

Did they say how ticket sales have been going? You've got to think the team winning plus their campaign is having an impact.

 

[abax44]

it's funny because there is a winnipeg dallas fan that hates the jets has posted on the main boards a few times that jets fans exaggerate how much they own down town and claimed it was only a couple of properties

Yeah, that guy is... something. I posted the True North portfolio in that thread, not a peep from him.

In my personal perspective, watching sports at home can provide a more pleasurable experience. There are no queues to the restroom, the food is more reasonably priced, there are no obstructed views, one can effortlessly switch between various games, and one does not need to be concerned about the weather conditions.

Additionally, there is no need to worry about downtown parking, exiting the arena, and for those who partake in smoking, there is easy access.

Not having to hear "shoooooot!" every time they cross the blue line is reason enough to watch from home.