Ticket/Attendance Discussion: The Sequel

[WolfHouse]

I've had a few businesses take me to dinner before at some pretty fancy restaurants, as part of a charm offensive to hire me or sell me their product. I guess something similar would be the main reason. Or if you're just a really rich business, you have some wiggle room for fun stuff (like season tickets) that nobody is going to blink an eye at when you look at the bottom line of your profit.

It would be a lot harder to justify for a small business unless you are really raking in the cash, or wooing new customers in person is a big part of your activities.

I could see 'timeshare' corp suites - like four microbreweries partner on the season - or the businesses of corydon partner - something like that...

With the amount of Winnipeg TNSE owns, I'd be surprised if they themselves don't make up the majority of the current 15%... paying yourself for a tax write-off isn't money laundering it just good business.

 

[None]

Hey, Gary's actually saying some positive things about the market.

 

[lotwwpg]

Gary Bettman saving the day!

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[dcypher]

lol, even Gary is mystified with all the hubbub.

 

[None]

It's good that they're acknowledging that they probably should have reserved some of those original 13000 season seat agreements for corporate seats.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

I Dont like Bettman. He is a saint in this interview. He cant be more supportive of the Jets and Wpg, and keeps steering the conversation to other things. Instead, media keeps going back to the same question rephrased in 100 different ways.

 

[KingBogo]

Bettman did Chipman a solid and blew a little sunshine into the discussion. Lets go out and support the team and hopefully some of the business community will step up with their support.

 

[TheDeuce]

Can't businesses deduct 50% of entertainment costs? So you're getting tickets half price...

That's not how deductions work. You don't get 100% of your deduction back. You just don't pay tax on the amount in question. If your marginal tax rate is, say, 30% you reduce your tax burden by 30% of the deduction. Assuming you're taxable at all.



m.

 

[Andy6]

Interesting press conference. They’re obviously of the view that this story has got way out in front of the reality underlying it, and are trying to dial everything back. Of course, the story “sells papers” so some of the media may be reluctant to let go.

 

[Puckatron 3000]

Didn't watch the Bettman interview, but thanks for the summaries, good to hear.

 

[Lions67]

Winnipeg relocation talk can be put away now.

 

[B33R LEAGUE]

When questioned about his intention for travelling to Winnipeg,

Gary said he was "mystified by the tension" during his media press conference.

Like he hasnt heard the messaging from Chipman and co. regarding it "not working longterm".

Or Chris' Article...

So is Chipman and Chris full of shit?

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[B33R LEAGUE]

"So 15% corporate support is robust?"

Kudos to Scott Billeck for having the gonads to ask a sassy followup question that resulted in an actual genuine/insightful response from Betman..

 

[macmaroon]

Looking at ticketmaster, looks like an expected attendance of 13,500 or less!

Will be a good showing for Bettman haha

13,501. I'm here...

 

[robertocarlos]

If the Jets are not relocating then WTH does "this will not work without 13,000 STHs" mean?

 

[KingBogo]

Interesting. The implication is do you just want a team or do you want a competitive cap team? If you want a competitive cap team you need to come out and support it.

 

[gojetsgo]

If the Jets are not relocating then WTH does "this will not work without 13,000 STHs" mean?

long term we won't be able to spend to the cap if we don't sell out

 

[robertocarlos]

13,501. I'm here...

You and another person saved the Jets. They were for sure leaving at 13,499.

 

[WpgSteve]

It just looks like a ghetto, which gives a horrible impression of the city. Ever see the front of thd air Canada building during the day? Isn’t there a Dollorama in the heart of Portage avenue? Yeah, that will attract free agents and suburban consumers.

Have you ever been to a Dollarama? There's all kinds of great stuff in there.

 

[robertocarlos]

long term we won't be able to spend to the cap if we don't sell out

But all the teams are able to win the Cup no matter their pay-roll. And it is a mathematical fact that if every team spent to the Cap then the Jets who spend to the Cap now would get millions refunded from their players. So the ones who are screwing Chipman are some of the other owners being cheap.

 

[Aries56]

If the Jets are not relocating then WTH does "this will not work without 13,000 STHs" mean?

They want more corporate ticket holders to get that 15% up to be comparable to the percentage in other Canadian markets. I think it was always taken out of context and wasn't about drumming up individual season ticket sales. That's why Bettman is here, to help get corporate ticket holders.

 

[Section 325]

Something in the fireside chat that made me burst out laughing was immediately after Bettman and Daly went on glowing about the organization and the city, a person came to the microphone and started in on a negative question, "how then do you" only to get cut off by Bettman, "who are you?"

Of course it was Paul Friesen, hahahah

 

[Guardian17]

So he's basically saying he needs the seats full to ice a competitive team.

He's not implying the team will leave.