Proposal: Three Way Trade between ANA, WPG, and NYR

[Hunter368]

Fowler would be Winnipeg's top LD...by far. Skjei would push Enstrom for playing time.

The absence of a true top pairing lhd doesn't make a 2nd pairing guy a top pairing guy.

Zero interest in two years of Fowler

Skjei isn't even a NHL player yet, safe to say he wouldn't be pushing Toby for anything unless you mean pushing Toby for his autograph.

 

[TheTakedown]

The absence of a true top pairing lhd doesn't make a 2nd pairing guy a top pairing guy.

Zero interest in two years of Fowler

Skjei isn't even a NHL player yet, safe to say he wouldn't be pushing Toby for anything unless you mean pushing Toby for his autograph.

Unfortunately, that's all that's on the market right now. Nobody wants to part with the direct LHD equivalent of Trouba because they want that player on their team.

Which means WPG needs to either a) trade Trouba to solidify a different weakness on their team, b) lower their demands for Trouba if they insist on a LHD, or c) do nothing and pray trouba signs (doubtful at this point)--the longer Chevy sits on Trouba, the lower his value is going to be when he is finally traded.

I'm not saying Skjei is the answer, but if WPG wants direct equal value, the best they will get RIGHT NOW would be both Fowler AND Skjei--Fowler for short term #1LHD duties, and Skjei for long term #1LHD duties

 

[Spazkat]

That's true, but I give OP benefit of doubt short term that can be managed.
However, if we are giving up Miller +, I want Hanifin and his ELC coming back.

Are you talking about a whole different trade involving Carolina or is there a 2nd Hanifin brother that the Jets have that I missed somehow.

 

[WesMcCauley]

Are you talking about a whole different trade involving Carolina or is there a 2nd Hanifin brother that the Jets have that I missed somehow.

No reason to try to talk trades with Bern. He is all over the place and LOVE young first round picks that are hyped up

 

[Static]

It's concerning that Ranger fans don't seem all that bothered with giving up Miller. I think Anaheim could do better.

 

[WesMcCauley]

It's concerning that Ranger fans don't seem all that bothered with giving up Miller. I think Anaheim could do better.

We dont want to give him up at all but our defense sucks and we have to move a young forward with offensive upside and top 6/top line potential to start the conversation. Its that simple really. We have a very deep offensive group which makes it less of a problem

 

[anezthes]

Not interested in trading Fowler for Miller.

 

[SEALBound]

Neutral fan, value wise it's not bad. Don't know about cap though.

 

[VinAgaR]

WPG: Trouba
&
Thorburn

ANH: Fowler
&
Ritchie
&
2nd or 3rd

 

[Ducks in a row]

WPG: Trouba
&
Thorburn

ANH: Fowler
&
Ritchie
&
2nd or 3rd

We are not trading Ritchie our top forward prospect. Trouba wants to get paid more then Fowler makes and we need to improve our cap situation not make it worse this is just terrible for the Ducks.

 

[Trxjw]

It's concerning that Ranger fans don't seem all that bothered with giving up Miller. I think Anaheim could do better.

We need the D upgrade very badly and there's enough depth up front that he can be spared. Pretty straightforward.

 

[Gump Hasek]

All of these 3-way proposals where a third team tries to acquire Trouba by facilitating a move for Fowler are essentially a dime a dozen on this board. The logic doesn't fly, and it has already been proposed a myriad of times, FYI.

If Winnipeg wanted Fowler, they would have traded for him by now, as they have the required ammo to do so due a vast wealth of assets and they don't need to include a third team as such. They could then trade Trouba at their whim. It hasn't happened because they likely don't want him. The Jets are currently running 21 y/o rookie Josh Morrissey in their top pair at LD and he is the least of their concerns as his play has been outstanding. There is no need for the Jets to move for Fowler at the cost of Trouba.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

WPG: Trouba
&
Thorburn

ANH: Fowler
&
Ritchie
&
2nd or 3rd

Fowler and trouba are pretty much equals... with the exceptions of contracts and honestly id rather have fowler. Ritchie > thorburn ... idk why the 2nd or 3rd are in there.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

All of these 3-way proposals where a third team tries to acquire Trouba by facilitating a move for Fowler are essentially a dime a dozen on this board. The logic doesn't fly, and it has already been proposed a myriad of times, FYI.

If Winnipeg wanted Fowler, they would have traded for him by now, as they have the required ammo to do so due a vast wealth of assets and they don't need to include a third team as such. They could then trade Trouba at their whim. It hasn't happened because they likely don't want him. The Jets are currently running 21 y/o rookie Josh Morrissey in their top pair at LD and he is the least of their concerns as his play has been outstanding. There is no need for the Jets to move for Fowler at the cost of Trouba.

Not to be that guy but you guys are giving up 4.00 goals a game... I think your defense could certainly be helped.


Granted there is no need for the ducks to trade fowler for trouba, trouba doesn't make us a better team, id rather just play Theodore and Larsson and move fowler for a forward piece if we had to move him.

 

[Gump Hasek]

Not to be that guy but you guys are giving up 4.00 goals a game... I think your defense could certainly be helped.

Not to be that guy, but the Jets are currently running with two largely inexperienced goalies whose play has been pedestrian thus far, and unless Folwer is willing to strap on the goal pads and can beat them out, he still isn't needed here. Their play may yet improve, and all the Jets truly need right now is a couple more saves per game from their goalies.

 

[tony d]

Can't see this deal happening.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Not to be that guy, but the Jets are currently running with two inexperienced goalies whose play has been pedestrian thus far, and unless Folwer is willing to strap on the goal pads then he still isn't needed here.

Looks like you guys could really use any one, an experienced 24 year old dmen who plays top pairing on a very solid defensive club would def help you guys... def more then troubla is now, and honestly fowler would be an improvement over most of your dmen, at least in the defensive zone.

 

[Gump Hasek]

Looks like you guys could really use any one, an experienced 24 year old dmen who plays top pairing on a very solid defensive club would def help you guys... def more then troubla is now, and honestly fowler would be an improvement over most of your dmen, at least in the defensive zone.

The only weak play right now is from the bottom pair D, FYI. The forwards also need to tighten up their defensive play at times, and that is a function of youth versus a lack of talent. They'll be fine. It certainly doesn't warrant trading Trouba to downgrade to Fowler.

 

[Snowman]

Fowler and trouba are pretty much equals

Except at hockey, where Trouba is much, much better. Fowler wouldn't come close to getting Trouba. Please stop trying to push him on the Jets. They don't want or need him.

 

[drw02]

All of these 3-way proposals where a third team tries to acquire Trouba by facilitating a move for Fowler are essentially a dime a dozen on this board. The logic doesn't fly, and it has already been proposed a myriad of times, FYI.

If Winnipeg wanted Fowler, they would have traded for him by now, as they have the required ammo to do so due a vast wealth of assets and they don't need to include a third team as such. They could then trade Trouba at their whim. It hasn't happened because they likely don't want him. The Jets are currently running 21 y/o rookie Josh Morrissey in their top pair at LD and he is the least of their concerns as his play has been outstanding. There is no need for the Jets to move for Fowler at the cost of Trouba.

Maybe the Jets don't want to trade one of their young stud forwards for Fowler. Your prospects won't get it done, Ducks would probably want Ehlers or Connor+ and Chevy probably doesn't wanna move those guys. But if another team surrenders the forward(s) the Ducks desire to acquire Fowler, then a Fowler+ for Trouba could make a lot of sense for Chevy.

 

[Hunter368]

Zero interest in this whole idea of Fowler for Trouba. Jets aren't taking 50 cents on the dollar return for Trouba. Just stop with this Fowler to the Jets nonsense

 

[Emerald Duck]

What is the most recent contract demand from Trouba's camp ?

A lot of these hypothetical trades involving Trouba are based on him just wanting to get out of WPG and back to playing on the right side. However, if he is looking for an Ekblad contract too, then his trade value drops quite a bit.

I'd rather move Vatanen to NYR anyways for Miller+. We can replace his skillset more easily than Fowler. The recent signing of Vatanen to a new contract may represent a hurdle for Murray, but certainly we can get more value for a signed-Vatanen then if we tried to trade him as an RFA during the offseason.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Except at hockey, where Trouba is much, much better. Fowler wouldn't come close to getting Trouba. Please stop trying to push him on the Jets. They don't want or need him.

I don't want to move fowler... specially not for trouba... I think you missed that point.

Fowler has been our best player so far this year, he is playing 25 mins a game as our #1 dmen... has 4 points in 5 games and playing great defense, very noticeable all over the rink.


Right now trouba wouldn't get you fowler, and honestly we don't need trouba we got good dmen in our system.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

The only weak play right now is from the bottom pair D, FYI. The forwards also need to tighten up their defensive play at times, and that is a function of youth versus a lack of talent. They'll be fine. It certainly doesn't warrant trading Trouba to downgrade to Fowler.

Trouba is what a #3? fowler is playing as a #1 its an upgrade right now... granted I wouldn't see it worth it from a ducks perspective to trade fowler for someone that'll make more and do less.

 

[Hunter368]

What is the most recent contract demand from Trouba's camp ?

A lot of these hypothetical trades involving Trouba are based on him just wanting to get out of WPG and back to playing on the right side. However, if he is looking for an Ekblad contract too, then his trade value drops quite a bit.

I'd rather move Vatanen to NYR anyways for Miller+. We can replace his skillset more easily than Fowler. The recent signing of Vatanen to a new contract may represent a hurdle for Murray, but certainly we can get more value for a signed-Vatanen then if we tried to trade him as an RFA during the offseason.

No one knows the true contract demands. All we know is no contract with even discussed with the Jets and the agent saying it's not about money. Market is well set for a player like Trouba, so you can assume Trouba will land between 5-5.75 mil per year for roughly 6 years IMO