canuckslover10
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Trade Karlsson and rebuild honestly if I were them I'd trade em all except Crosby, Malkin, and Letang unless they want to be traded cause they do not want to end their career on a rebuild.
Dubas has done a bad job. The Pens are old and slow and clearly need to rebuild. Those old slow guys Karlsson for example) not only have no move clauses but their contracts aren’t tradable unless adding a lot of high picks. Sadly the Pens are stuck with what they have until those bad contracts run out.Trade Karlsson and rebuild honestly if I were them I'd trade em all except Crosby, Malkin, and Letang unless they want to be traded cause they do not want to end their career on a rebuild.
Karlsson is definitely tradable as he would still have value across the league they would probably have to retain 2-3 million tho.Dubas has done a bad job. The Pens are old and slow and clearly need to rebuild. Those old slow guys Karlsson for example) not only have no move clauses but their contracts aren’t tradable unless adding a lot of high picks. Sadly the Pens are stuck with what they have until those bad contracts run out.
If they keep Sullivan all year, I see no reason to think it will improve.As bad as they’ve been on pace is not something to bring up this early in the season. Kucherov is also on pace for 82 goals while Stamkos is on pace for like 15.
Trade Karlsson and rebuild honestly if I were them I'd trade em all except Crosby, Malkin, and Letang unless they want to be traded cause they do not want to end their career on a rebuild.
Karlsson is definitely tradable as he would still have value across the league they would probably have to retain 2-3 million tho.
EK is looking really bad. He’s playing very soft. Hes got four more years at 11 million per. Even at 50% retention it’s a stretch to think any club will want him with how he’s playing. He’s coming 35!Karlsson is definitely tradable as he would still have value across the league they would probably have to retain 2-3 million tho.
The fact that the team doesn't have the right players sounds more like a GM problem than a coach issue, especially since the coach had success with this system in the past.Spoken like someone who hasn't watched a Penguins game in years.
The defense this year is identical to the defense from last year, just with Joseph and Ruhwedel swapped out for Grzelcyk and St. Ivany. The defensemen on this team aren't good, but the team is horrendous defensively because of the system Sullivan is running, not because of the defense.
The team simply doesn't have the personnel to run the system Sullivan has been forcing this team to run for the past few years. Good coaches make systems that work with the players that they have, they don't just run the same system and then pout because it's not working due to the players not being good fits for it.
The fact that the team doesn't have the right players sounds more like a GM problem than a coach issue, especially since the coach had success with this system in the past.
When the team bleeds goals, adding a 11,5 milion dollars offensive d-man is not the solution, it is just adding to problem. And that is not on Sulivan. Not to mention that the Pens already had Letang, EK is redundant.
The ONLY position player under the age of 25 was McGroarty........pretty crazy when a teams 'young' dynamic goal scorer is a 31 year old rickard rakell lol.
You have a good point but my point is just talking about how they’ve played would be a better argument then what their on pace for given how early in the year it is.If they keep Sullivan all year, I see no reason to think it will improve.
Pens have allowed the most shots per game and the third worst GAA in the league so far.You have a good point but my point is just talking about how they’ve played would be a better argument then what their on pace for given how early in the year it is.
They've played like their record or maybe even worse.You have a good point but my point is just talking about how they’ve played would be a better argument then what their on pace for given how early in the year it is.
Yeah that’s a good reason whyPens have allowed the most shots per game and the third worst GAA in the league so far.
Forget about pace. I don’t see how they even change that trend under Sullivan.
Yeah that’s a good reasonThey've played like their record or maybe even worse.
Coincidentally, treliving needs the same time maxhine to go back to 2018 and undo all the horrible trades and contracts dubie dubes did, touchéThe team doesn’t have the right players because Jim Rutherford went insane and mortgaged the Penguins future to try to win in the 2018-2021 window. Kyle Dubas needs a time machine to undo the mistakes JR made to make Sullivan’s system work.
The system doesn’t work because:
1. The core is in their late 30s
2. They have no young players coming up
3. Any UFA additions Dubas has made (which have been bad on the overall) don’t make up for points 1 and 2
Coincidentally, treliving needs the same time maxhine to go back to 2018 and undo all the horrible trades and contracts dubie dubes did, touché
I dont think you followed the leafs at all under dubas reignI would be significantly willing to bet that JR is more responsible for the Penguins current situation than Dubas is for the Leafs current situation.
And that's not really a reflection of how either GM did, it's more that an old team not having any futures and young players is way more damaging than a prime aged team making bad moves that didn't pan out. It's not like Dubas pissed away futures assets like JR did, the Leafs have had a consistent stream of top young players. The bad moves Dubas made were either bad player for player deals (like the Kadri deal) or the Leafs actually gaining assets (like acquiring Murray and a 3rd to be their starter). Even though he was making mistakes, he wasn't mortgaging the future with those mistakes. That wasn't true with JR, JR was making bad moves while also completely throwing away the future.
The Leafs actually have assets now to make the team better because Dubas at least drafted well and didn't trade a billion picks. The Penguins don't have that luxury because of how many picks JR traded.
I dont think you followed the leafs at all under dubas reign