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SnowblindNYR said:
If they're a bad team like the other thread says then they shouldn't be beating them or at least we wouldn't be winning most games we should be winning.
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you can be a not good team without being a bad team. I think we’re more middld of the road than our record says due to all the mediocre teams we beat, some of them in very close games. if we can put up points against the carolinas and washingtons and panthers consistently, I’ll feel a lot better. my point is more that how we’ve looked thus far doesn’t necessarily indicate a great team. I see it more of the circumstances of whom we’ve played. I’m not saying we’re bad, I just think it’s too soon to claim we’re gonna make the playoffs.
 
MysticLeviathan said:
you can be a not good team without being a bad team. I think we’re more middld of the road than our record says due to all the mediocre teams we beat, some of them in very close games. if we can put up points against the carolinas and washingtons and panthers consistently, I’ll feel a lot better. my point is more that how we’ve looked thus far doesn’t necessarily indicate a great team. I see it more of the circumstances of whom we’ve played. I’m not saying we’re bad, I just think it’s too soon to claim we’re gonna make the playoffs.
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We're 16-4-3, if you want to make the argument that they're not as good as their record I think most people will agree with you. Saying they're not a good team is trolling at this point. Mediocre teams lose to bad teams all of the time, we've lost one game to a bad team all season, Vancouver, and that was in OT. That's what good teams do. This board is ridiculous, sometimes during a game or right after I get down on them being outplayed like they were in the second period against the Flyers, but if you can't even be happy with the Rangers' best 23 game start since 2005 when can you be happy? At this point, what's the point of watching?
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
We're 16-4-3, if you want to make the argument that they're not as good as their record I think most people will agree with you. Saying they're not a good team is trolling at this point. Mediocre teams lose to bad teams all of the time, we've lost one game to a bad team all season, Vancouver, and that was in OT. That's what good teams do. This board is ridiculous, sometimes during a game or right after I get down on them being outplayed like they were in the second period against the Flyers, but if you can't even be happy with the Rangers' best 23 game start since 2005 when can you be happy? At this point, what's the point of watching?
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I agree the Rangers are playing like a good team. Winning close games is a very good sign. And we are very tough to play against when we are on our game. Plus goaltending has been very sharp. We are 10-1-1 with leads going into the 3rd. A similar record or better when we score more than two goals a game. These are very good indications of a good team. But it is still early in the year and a lot can happen. We are very shallow in the forward position. And you know injuries and COVID are gonna happen. It is not a matter of if, but when. It will be then when we will be tested. But right now, being healthy, we are hard to beat.

Could you imagine if Shesty wasn't coming back in a week or two? My heart dropped when he tried to get off the ice. It did not look good. I used to get groin pulls all the time. The don't disappear in a week. And I can't imagine a worst injury for a goalie. They linger forever.
 
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ohbaby said:
I agree the Rangers are playing like a good team. Winning close games is a very good sign. And we are very tough to play against when we are on our game. Plus goaltending has been very sharp. We are 10-1-1 with leads going into the 3rd. A similar record or better when we score more than two goals a game. These are very good indications of a good team. But it is still early in the year and a lot can happen. We are very shallow in the forward position. And you know injuries and COVID are gonna happen. It is not a matter of if, but when. It will be then when we will be tested. But right now, being healthy, we are hard to beat.
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I think we have no regulation losses when leading after 2 and same with when scoring more than 1 goal. I don't want to jinx it but the Rangers tend to be one of the better teams when it comes to health usually. I think it has to do with Jim Ramsay, but we almost never have seasons like the Pens do every year. Of course now we'll have half the team injured tomorrow.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
I think we have no regulation losses when leading after 2 and same with when scoring more than 1 goal. I don't want to jinx it but the Rangers tend to be one of the better teams when it comes to health usually. I think it has to do with Jim Ramsay, but we almost never have seasons like the Pens do every year. Of course now we'll have half the team injured tomorrow.
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I'm not sure the stats I posted are exactly correct, but I know they are very, very good nonetheless.

Edit: you are correct,.. Rangers are 15-0-3 when scoring more than one goal in a game.

I sure hope they are taking their vitamin D. They might have better luck against injuries than other teams, but COVID don't care. Omicron will spread like wildfire among the vaccinated. It's not very likely to make people sick, but they will test positive and sit.
 
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ohbaby said:
Get real guys. Rangers went into the season with one less forward so to keep the extra D-man (Hajek).
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Incorrect. They sent one of their forwards down for conditioning. He would have been back up weeks ago if he wasn't an immature child. It had NOTHING to do with Hajek.
 
ohbaby said:
Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids. That is being realistic and reasonable. Being thoughtful of what is about to transpire. It is calling back on my knowledge on how teams perform year in and year out in similar situations. On how tough it is for any team in the east to get off to a good start being on the road against west coast teams. It's not rocket science, it's not being pessimistic, it's just common sense which seems to evade you.

And everything I said, that you highlighted in bold, did happen,... and had no chance of adding anything to a good start. Gallant clearly made some questionable moves to open the season that I don't think anyone here would disagree with. Except maybe you. Georgie had a real good game opening night, didn't he?

You called me out on my early prediction, saying it was hogwash, not happening, crazy. Well it did happen, as I said it would and you were wrong. Live with it, it's no big deal.

What's next? You gonna dispute that I said the Rangers will likely win 6 games out of their next 9? Crazy talk right?
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You sir right now are providing comedic relief for everyone here.

Making up bullshit assumptive reasons as to why this team would struggle out of the gate, mainly based on a new coach, and then arguing your assumptions were right because they didn’t name a Captain or sent an unproven kid down for conditioning doesn’t make you “reasonable” or “realistic”, it makes you DRAMATIC and yes pessimistic. They were baseless. Because if in fact you looked at Gallant’s body of work combined with what was already in place here, I think most would have a more optimistic, or even keeled, view of the upcoming season. But no not you. Based on your YEARS of vast knowledge and experience you knew that the logical perception was this team would struggle, that makes you a REALIST. :help: Just like how you have experienced so many groin injuries, you can assume Igor’s injury could sideline him several weeks. Yes Igor, the professional athlete, compared to the much accomplished common citizen ohbaby! We should just take your word for it then. It’s settled.

No one agreed with Georgiev starting on opening night. But also there were very few ready to write off the season like you were, putting so much weight into ONE game. Who is the reasonable one again?

And I never once said your early prediction was “hogwash”. I called you out for being a negative baby after what just 5-6 games. Don’t play dumb now and act like you came here and calmly said ‘I think this team is going to struggle with the early West coast trip’. No you blamed then, and still are blabbering about here in December, the most absurd reasons to be skeptical. Not naming a Captain…get over it guy. Not to mention as you so conveniently have neglected, the Rangers should have won both games in Vancouver and Edmonton. They win just won and you are easily wrong, because you know what they did indeed have a good start to the season all things considered.

Get out of here with your blabbering nonsense.
 
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The infamous Bad Hockey Team thread was started during the middle of Game 10 against Vancouver in the 2nd period when the team was up 2 goals. Go back and check. A game they came into with a 6-2-1 record. And yes they ended up blowing that lead and lost in OT, but it was sad and pathetic to see fans bitching at that point. Miserable fans.

Some of you should turn your fan cards in and sign with another team.

17-4-3. That’s right, only 2 regulation losses since that infamous thread was started.

LGR :yo:
 
TominNC said:
Incorrect. They sent one of their forwards down for conditioning. He would have been back up weeks ago if he wasn't an immature child. It had NOTHING to do with Hajek.
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It is correct whether you believe it or not. Most teams open the season with 14 forwards, 7 D-men and 2 goalies. The Rangers kept 8 D-men on the roster. Hajek's spot on the roster, meant one less forward.
 
RGY said:
Just like how you have experienced so many groin injuries, you can assume Igor’s injury could sideline him several weeks. Yes Igor, the professional athlete, compared to the much accomplished common citizen ohbaby! We should just take your word for it then. It’s settled.
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If Igor's injury, is groin related, he won't be back in a week. But it might not be a groin pull. They haven't given word on it. I was just saying if it is, you can forget the week timeline. Could be a knee strain or something else. But the way he went off the ice, gave me the impression it might be a groin pull. He was so mad coming off the ice. I hope it is not. They're known as forever injuries. They cause scare tissue that stays with you. It could be likely it isn't groin related. Cause I would think they would give him more than a week if it was.

Making up bullshit assumptive reasons as to why this team would struggle out of the gate, mainly based on a new coach,
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You didn't cut back on the Prozac's did you? Your brain is muddled, because I clearly stated the main reason why they would have a slow start. I said it back then and said it again a few posts back. But it went right over your head like you have some sort of impairment. I would have that checked out.

"Based on the knowledge of how teams perform year in and year out in similar situations. On how tough it is for any team in the east to get off to a good start being on the road against west coast teams. It's not rocket science, it's not being pessimistic, it's just common sense."

The new coach and new system is secondary. Even if a team didn't go through what this team went through before the start, they would still have a tough time with the schedule they had.
 
Most of the Rangers credit the five-day break following the team’s 4-3 win over the Panthers on Nov. 8 as the time the team’s outlook and play changed. They were 7-3-3 after that win, but the Panthers threw 91 shot attempts on Shesterkin, who had a stomach bug and didn’t come out for the No. 1 star announcement at the Garden.

“We had some talks. We had some hard practices,” Ryan Reaves said Monday. “We all had to look in the mirror, kind of figure out what we wanted from this season. Do we want to be mediocre? Do we want to keep what’s been happening here the last couple years? Or do we want to be a playoff team? Everybody in that room is realizing it now and we’re starting to look like a playoff team.”
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Diving into the data on the Rangers: What's gone right (and wrong) during the NHL's 2nd best start?
 
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Wasn't keen on Drury as a gm. However, the identity he wanted with bringing in Gallant, and the players he brought in, has looked fantastic so far.
 
Whats impressed me the most is that they have trusted and stuck with their game plan, with largely the same group. They got away from the things they needed to do to be successful under Quinn and tried to cheat too much. Call it coaching or credit the players for finally buying in, but thats what im seeing.

A solid fourth line that you can roll also makes a big big difference. I love that Gallant trusts them enough to give them enough minutes to keep them engaged, energized and contributing. When players sit too long its hard to get on them when its easier to lose the flow of the game.

They are winning regardless of who is in net now and thats a great sign. Lots of skill in lots of positions. Roles are clear. Im sure theyll have a dip at some point and it will be important to see how they respond to that but until then keep the ball rolling!
 
ohbaby said:
It is correct whether you believe it or not. Most teams open the season with 14 forwards, 7 D-men and 2 goalies. The Rangers kept 8 D-men on the roster. Hajek's spot on the roster, meant one less forward.
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They kept Hajek around because Kravtsov was going down for conditioning. It's never gotten to the spot where they needed to dump Hajek. As soon as the Rangers had a forward out for Covid or hurt, Kravtsov would have been here. Instead we got McKegg. You're being stubborn to keep from admitting you're wrong.
 
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