This is a bad hockey team

[will1066]

I'm just a caveman who got thawed out after 10,000 years and now lives among you. I don't understand your complex arguments about 5v5 play and wins and points. Your advanced society, with your LED headlights and artificially intelligent vacuum cleaners, frightens me!

But I do know one thing. The New York Rangers will win the 2022 Stanley Cup on the back of Igor Shesterkin, your honor.

 

[Brother Mouzone]

"The Blueshirts, according to Natural Stat Trick, allow the most five-on-five scoring chances in the league per 60:00 at 33.99. The first-year Kraken lead the NHL at 22.27. The Rangers rank 27th in high-danger chances against per 60:00, at 11.95." Igor Shesterkin's Rangers teammates totally abandoned him

But hey, POINTS, amirite???

 

[Machinehead]

this is it for me.

this team is just, insanely lackadasical in all three zones. I don't know if it's laziness or poor situational IQ but they are just, half a step slower than literally every team in the league. it's like they overthink even the first stride of skating and by the time it stops, the puck's already going the other way. the half step slow is the root cause of every single problem we have. and it's not a speed thing, it's a positioning and probably effort thing.

it's also why all the toffnuzz we brought in doesn't look effective. what's the point of these big hits on the boards when no one is in position to scoop the puck or support on the boards?

Probably doesn't help that we're literally slow and nobody on this team can skate.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Probably doesn't help that we're literally slow and nobody on this team can skate.

We must be the only team to win back to back lotteries where the biggest knock on both is their speed.

Even our stars Panarin & Fox aren’t particularly fast.

I’d say it goes something like:

Kravtsov

Kreider


Gauthier

Chytil

Zibanejad
Miller

Panarin

Goodrow
Rooney
Strome
Lundkvist
Hunt

Lindgren
Fox

Kakko
Lafreniere
Reaves
Blais
Nemeth
Tinordi
Trouba

 

[TominNC]

Probably doesn't help that we're literally slow and nobody on this team can skate.

Insert gif if Miller goal

 

[OrlandK]

Probably doesn't help that we're literally slow and nobody on this team can skate.

That is the biggest problem - we are slow. Only elite skating forwards are Mika and Kreider - Gauthier too I suppose but to no avail. It's good to be physical and "tough to play against" but the lack of speed results in the puck in our end more often than not.

 

[Thirty One]

That is the biggest problem - we are slow. Only elite skating forwards are Mika and Kreider - Gauthier too I suppose but to no avail. It's good to be physical and "tough to play against" but the lack of speed results in the puck in our end more often than not.

If a couple fast teams beat us down the stretch, they'll make that the priority this offseason.

 

[Blais to Win]

We must be the only team to win back to back lotteries where the biggest knock on both is their speed.

Even our stars Panarin & Fox aren’t particularly fast.

I’d say it goes something like:

Kravtsov

Kreider


Gauthier

Chytil

Zibanejad
Miller

Panarin

Goodrow
Rooney
Strome
Lundkvist
Hunt

Lindgren
Fox

Kakko
Lafreniere
Reaves
Blais
Nemeth
Tinordi
Trouba

No way. The only thing Kravtsov is that fast at is catching a plane to Russia.

 

[EdJovanovski]

No way. The only thing Kravtsov is that fast at is catching a plane to Russia.

Whaaat? Did you not watch his 20 games at the end of last season lol he was certainly one of our fastest skaters. He was the first man in every forecheck and the first man back on every backcheck, not only before the center but usually even before the 2nd dman. And in all the other aspects of skating his mechanics are a lot more textbook and aesthetically pleasing than Kreider, Gauthier, Miller. Kravtsov is easily the best & most fluid all around skater on our team, for straight line speed you could argue Kreider & Gauthier but that’s it IMO

 

[DanielBrassard]

If a couple fast teams beat us down the stretch, they'll make that the priority this offseason.

We can only hope.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Probably doesn't help that we're literally slow and nobody on this team can skate.

I feel like team speed has been an issue for a while, hasn't helped that some of our better skaters have been jettisoned from the team and replaced by slugs either. You can make up for it by having a team that manages the puck and holds onto it but that's not happening either

 

[Leonardo87]

The schedule is pretty interesting. They played 3 games in 4 days. Have 4 days off now and then go back to 3 games in 4 days. There was no way to get a game in during that time?

 

[Crease]

This discussion is giving me flashbacks to when Torts was here and the team was winning despite getting shelled every game. Except Torts's bend-don't-break six-goalie system was intentional.

 

[OrlandK]

If a couple fast teams beat us down the stretch, they'll make that the priority this offseason.

I'm sure but that means (1) Drury will have to admit he screwed up, and (2) sort of another (mini) rebuild in the offing. Mika, Bread and Kreider only have a year or two before they likely will trend downward.

The past couple of years the two teams with amazing prospect pools were the Rangers and Kings. The Kings were flying Monday night when they destroyed the Maple Leafs. I'm not sure there is a team in the league we can out skate. When speed becomes the crucial element Drury retools for grit.

 

[DanielBrassard]

This discussion is giving me flashbacks to when Torts was here and the team was winning despite getting shelled every game. Except Torts's bend-don't-break six-goalie system was intentional.

Even those teams didn't get beat up as badly as this one has been. They were basically 50/50 teams.

 

[Machinehead]

I feel like team speed has been an issue for a while, hasn't helped that some of our better skaters have been jettisoned from the team and replaced by slugs either. You can make up for it by having a team that manages the puck and holds onto it but that's not happening either

I get that Gauthier is frustrating because he doesn't actually do anything but his speed was really refreshing the other night.

Maybe if Lafreniere and Kakko had puck retrieval on their line, instead of being the first ones in huffing and puffing along the way, we might get more out of them.

Not that I'm trying to make excuses but I think it's valid to say we don't have the right mix for who our big name players are. Lafreniere and Kakko don't exactly burn. We knew that on draft day and we have to work around that.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Most of their problems against Florida came from not getting pucks deep. I know it's not sexy or fancy stat approved but it works. Panarin must have turned the puck over at the blue line at least 5 times. And every time he did, it felt like Florida got a real good scoring opportunity. Such a simple concept and they've been so dreadful at it. But the times they do it, they're able to forecheck and generate scoring chances.

 

[Mandar]

When teams suck in every area except 1 (goaltending) the points WILL dry up over the course of the year. If the team continues to play this way they will not make the playoffs, and will probably be 6th in the division.

The actual games themselves are complete shit shows with the exception of Igor, Fox, and Kreider (he is executing his role). Any team in the history of the recent game that consistently gets out worked, out shot, out chanced, out everything don't make the playoffs at the end of the year.

These points are amazing though, because if they do figure it out, it gives them a nice cushion for those games that they wind up losing but deserved to win. Or the clunker here and there after the new year. So you don't hate on the points, but you can sure as shit get worried about the play.

Excellent points!! You see the value in points...and you understand that aspect. Our little friend above doesnt grasp that concept, and seems to think I am sayinmg they are playing well. In the end, its the points that matter regardless of how they are earned.

 

[Mandar]

Where were you after the Calgary game, ran and hid I see?

You really don't understand what these stats mean, do you?

Its interesting.....while an explanation isnt required, I was away for the weekend and didnt get on the site....I mean, after a win, its shit show...I could only imagine after a loss.

And honestly, Mr. Keyboard warrior....really? I "ran and hid"? Maybe we should chat about that at study hall during 3rd period.

You certainly dont believe in all stats, right? That pesky point thingy wont fit into your narrative. Such a fun place to live in your world.

Tell us.....are you more happy that they played that way on Saturday and lost....or are you happier they won on MOnday? Cause you cant wait to seem to pounce when they dont get any points (only 2 games out of 13 so far).

Oh...and you will have to point out where I say they have been playing well....you wont find that. Because the team is getting results no matter how bad the process. I believe the process will improve.setting us up for even better things.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Its interesting.....while an explanation isnt required, I was away for the weekend and didnt get on the site....I mean, after a win, its shit show...I could only imagine after a loss.

And honestly, Mr. Keyboard warrior....really? I "ran and hid"? Maybe we should chat about that at study hall during 3rd period.

You certainly dont believe in all stats, right? That pesky point thingy wont fit into your narrative. Such a fun place to live in your world.

Tell us.....are you more happy that they played that way on Saturday and lost....or are you happier they won on MOnday? Cause you cant wait to seem to pounce when they dont get any points (only 2 games out of 13 so far).

Oh...and you will have to point out where I say they have been playing well....you wont find that. Because the team is getting results no matter how bad the process. I believe the process will improve.setting us up for even better things.

Yeah you were nowhere to be found after they got shellacked by Calgary. I called you out on it and you ran and hid.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

The schedule is pretty interesting. They played 3 games in 4 days. Have 4 days off now and then go back to 3 games in 4 days. There was no way to get a game in during that time?

They need the rest and practice time desperately after the schedule they had to start the season.

2 trips to Canada in the first dozen games? Edit: 3

Some home cookin' will be good, at the very least

 

[CLW]

I feel like team speed has been an issue for a while, hasn't helped that some of our better skaters have been jettisoned from the team and replaced by slugs either. You can make up for it by having a team that manages the puck and holds onto it but that's not happening either

That's why I feel the Rangers need to grasp their team transition game better. Not starting and stopping and needing that extra second to look where to pass goes a long way towards keeping the foot speed up. I caught a bit of Edm at Detroit last night and Detroit had that flow going, stark contrast to last season for them.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Def not expecting it, but really hoping that over the next 9 off days (amidst yet ANOTHER trip to Canada, their 4th this season) they'll have enough practice time in Tarrytown to work on fixing some important underlying issues.

5 on 5 play and generating more shots/chances
Manufacturing rebounds and getting to the blue paint
Slot protection
Being more assertive at the blueline on opponent entries
Puck management
Back pressure
Powerplay

 

[Mandar]

Yeah you were nowhere to be found after they got shellacked by Calgary. I called you out on it and you ran and hid.

Sigh…..still won’t answer a simple question. Simple mind I guess.

enjoy your evening

 

[DialUp]

We must be the only team to win back to back lotteries where the biggest knock on both is their speed.

Even our stars Panarin & Fox aren’t particularly fast.

I’d say it goes something like:

Kravtsov

Kreider


Gauthier

Chytil

Zibanejad
Miller

Panarin

Goodrow
Rooney
Strome
Lundkvist
Hunt

Lindgren
Fox

Kakko
Lafreniere
Reaves
Blais
Nemeth
Tinordi
Trouba

Was thinking the same thing, how the hell did PAUL FCKING RUDD win Sexiest Man Alive?

My rankings, unbiased:
Kravtsov






Henrik Lundqvist
Paul Rudd
Yanni
Etc etc