This is a bad hockey team

[CLW]

107 point pace and just knocked off the only undefeated team in the league.

Don’t overthink this.

Yeah, good win good points early in the season. The team is very much in transition and still manages to find ways to grab points. I like Laf on the fourth line, he needs to learn the grind game and defensive zone play. Kakko just needs to keep going, the coaches clearly are working on him playing more towards the center of the ice, both offensively and defensively, the points will come not worried in the least. Was good to see Nils getting important minutes. KAM's goal was a beauty. Onwards and upwards. Oh and the big guns are great at picking up points somehow even when they are not playing particularly well.

The transition game is still very much a work in progress, hope they can start to speed things up as a team.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Where were the shots taken from? After the 1st period which had 2-3 great chances for Florida, the rest of the game consisted a lot of shot “attempts” from the perimeter. It consisted of Panthers players crashing the net trying to rattle Igor.

Not everything is evaluated in a vacuum.

I watched the whole game. The shots came from everywhere, include plenty of high danger chances, but the point is that they had the puck FARRRRRRRR more than the Rangers. They also gave up nearly 100 attempts. 97! That is unheard of.

45 shots is a f***in shitload of shots I don’t care where they came from. Igor had to play out of his mind, again - the only way this team can win.

They didn’t win that game - the Panthers lost it.

 

[mas0764]

107 point pace and just knocked off the only undefeated team in the league.

Don’t overthink this.

Don’t underthink it either.

 

[RangerLifer]

I watched the whole game. The shots came from everywhere, include plenty of high danger chances, but the point is that they had the puck FARRRRRRRR more than the Rangers. They also gave up nearly 100 attempts. 97! That is unheard of.

45 shots is a f***in shitload of shots I don’t care where they came from. Igor had to play out of his mind, again - the only way this team can win.

They didn’t win that game - the Panthers lost it.

Two points is two points. It doesn't have to be a work of art to count.

 

[mas0764]

Two points is two points. It doesn't have to be a work of art to count.

Of course but when the team is consistently getting outplayed yet the goalie keeps stealing games that is not a recipe for success either.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Two points is two points. It doesn't have to be a work of art to count.

Another one who misses the point. This type of play is not conducive to winning. Those two points tonight are zero points the majority of the time.

the Rangers haven’t gotten the benefit of the doubt yet where if they win one they shouldn’t they can just shrug it off. The Rangers have won maybe one game that they should have this season. All the rest where Shesterkin robberies.

 

[bobbop]

There are a lot of concerning things about this team

Winning games and accumulating points is not one of them right now.

 

[Kords]

Idc how the points come, get to the playoffs and take it from there.

Montreal didn't deserve to even make the playoffs last year and they ended up going on a nice run on the back of their goaltender. One of the greatest things about this sport, strange things happen in the post season every year. Just gotta punch that ticket.

 

[Kane One]

There are a lot of concerning things about this team

Winning games and accumulating points is not one of them right now.

This is a good problem to have. A bad hockey team would also be losing.

This problem will correct itself as the season goes on.

 

[DanielBrassard]

This is a good problem to have. A bad hockey team would also be losing.

This problem will correct itself as the season goes on.

They won't keep winning unless they start playing better. It just doesn't happen that a team is this poor at 5v5 and makes the playoffs. They are a negative goal differential team at 5v5 and that's with Igor playing out of his mind.

 

[Kane One]

They won't keep winning unless they start playing better. It just doesn't happen that a team is this poor at 5v5 and makes the playoffs. They are a negative goal differential team at 5v5 and that's with Igor playing out of his mind.

I never said the opposite. I’m saying the obvious in that at least we are winning when we suck.

If Laf, Kakko, and Mika can all get on their A game, the Rangers will be dangerous.

 

[CLW]

I never said the opposite. I’m saying the obvious in that at least we are winning when we suck.

If Laf, Kakko, and Mika can all get on their A game, the Rangers will be dangerous.

In the post game presser Gallant talked about the team still giving up far too many easy chances in the slot, same problem that plagued the team last season. Clearly the players and the coaches know they need to fix issues.

 

[Kane One]

In the post game presser Gallant talked about the team still giving up far too many easy chances in the slot, same problem that plagued the team last season. Clearly the players and the coaches know they need to fix issues.

I think offense is a bigger issue. If they spent more time on offense, they’d be spending less time giving up 40 shots per game.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I think offense is a bigger issue. If they spent more time on offense, they’d be spending less time giving up 40 shots per game.

Show me a good defense and ill show you a team with more offensive zone time. The quicker and smoother the puck comes out of your end the quicker you get on the offese. Good offense comes from good defense. If you can't smoothly move the puck out of your end you'll never have proper control of the puck in the neutral zone and beyond

 

[DanielBrassard]

Show me a good defense and ill show you a team with more offensive zone time. The quicker and smoother the puck comes out of your end the quicker you get on the offese. Good offense comes from good defense. If you can't smoothly move the puck out of your end you'll never have proper control of the puck in the neutral zone and beyond

you're not wrong, but the rangers are really bad offensively as well. They are really poor at retrieving and holding onto pucks in the offensive zone so even if they can transition the puck out of their own end they struggle to hem opposing teams in and make them defend. Nevermind that they have to be one of the worst if not the worst passing team in the league, it's just terrible.

 

[Row I Goon]

5th in the League and 12 pages of "This is a bad hockey team" is the most Rangers thing ever, right?

 

[TominNC]

5th in the League and 12 pages of "This is a bad hockey team" is the most Rangers thing ever, right?

Panarin could be doing circuits of the Garden on one skate holding the Cup and there would be fans bitching about style points.

 

[gravey9]

This team would be dangerous tomorrow if it figured out how to play team D.

 

[Mandar]

This is a Bad Thread

 

[TheBloodyNine]

"The Blueshirts, according to Natural Stat Trick, allow the most five-on-five scoring chances in the league per 60:00 at 33.99. The first-year Kraken lead the NHL at 22.27. The Rangers rank 27th in high-danger chances against per 60:00, at 11.95." Igor Shesterkin's Rangers teammates totally abandoned him

But hey, POINTS, amirite???

 

[CaptDenisPotvin]

I think offense is a bigger issue. If they spent more time on offense, they’d be spending less time giving up 40 shots per game.

Adam Fox, is that you?

 

[Raspewtin]

this team doesnt work hard enough imo. they dont take the extra stride to get better position or be harder on the puck. they love stick checking and trying to make cute little plays instead of being firm on the puck and moving it with pace. too many players just arent assertive enough either. laf and kakko especially. they got skill and size but they just wanna watch and expect things to happen out there (laf more so than kakko). its something that should be fixable, but they arent a contender until they make that change. its also why we the ice is so tilted when we play against quick hard working teams.

this is it for me.

this team is just, insanely lackadasical in all three zones. I don't know if it's laziness or poor situational IQ but they are just, half a step slower than literally every team in the league. it's like they overthink even the first stride of skating and by the time it stops, the puck's already going the other way. the half step slow is the root cause of every single problem we have. and it's not a speed thing, it's a positioning and probably effort thing.

it's also why all the toffnuzz we brought in doesn't look effective. what's the point of these big hits on the boards when no one is in position to scoop the puck or support on the boards?

 

[Mandar]

"The Blueshirts, according to Natural Stat Trick, allow the most five-on-five scoring chances in the league per 60:00 at 33.99. The first-year Kraken lead the NHL at 22.27. The Rangers rank 27th in high-danger chances against per 60:00, at 11.95." Igor Shesterkin's Rangers teammates totally abandoned him

But hey, POINTS, amirite???

Quote these really relative stats all you want. I think that the stat "5 on 5 scoring chances" is what determines playoff eligibility and seeding....we really gotta work on that...

Wait....it doesnt, right? Nor any of those other wonderful stats (like goal differential - which means zero). Cause if we still finish last in those stats....and keep the current game results pace....

POINTS......you are right. (but, but Larry sez xGF% is bad....)

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Quote these really relative stats all you want. I think that the stat "5 on 5 scoring chances" is what determines playoff eligibility and seeding....we really gotta work on that...

Wait....it doesnt, right? Nor any of those other wonderful stats (like goal differential - which means zero). Cause if we still finish last in those stats....and keep the current game results pace....

POINTS......you are right. (but, but Larry sez xGF% is bad....)

Where were you after the Calgary game, ran and hid I see?

You really don't understand what these stats mean, do you?

 

[DialUp]

Quote these really relative stats all you want. I think that the stat "5 on 5 scoring chances" is what determines playoff eligibility and seeding....we really gotta work on that...

Wait....it doesnt, right? Nor any of those other wonderful stats (like goal differential - which means zero). Cause if we still finish last in those stats....and keep the current game results pace....

POINTS......you are right. (but, but Larry sez xGF% is bad....)

When teams suck in every area except 1 (goaltending) the points WILL dry up over the course of the year. If the team continues to play this way they will not make the playoffs, and will probably be 6th in the division.

The actual games themselves are complete shit shows with the exception of Igor, Fox, and Kreider (he is executing his role). Any team in the history of the recent game that consistently gets out worked, out shot, out chanced, out everything don't make the playoffs at the end of the year.

These points are amazing though, because if they do figure it out, it gives them a nice cushion for those games that they wind up losing but deserved to win. Or the clunker here and there after the new year. So you don't hate on the points, but you can sure as shit get worried about the play.